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Oct 5th 2013, 18:06:33

Originally posted by hawkeyee:
I'm not blaming the SUV driver. I'm saying he could have made different decisions to avoid the situation. Those same bikers drove past dozens of other cars. What did those drivers do differently than this one? If I have bikes around me in front of me and behind me I turn on my four-ways and take my foot off the gas.

I think the biggest difference is that they decided to stop traffic about the same time they were passing him, so if they had just decided to pass him like all the other cars then this might not have happened.

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Oct 5th 2013, 18:00:24

Originally posted by Makolyte:
That's hot

Damn... thats cold.

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Oct 4th 2013, 17:14:15

It doesnt help bikers when on TV you see Sons of Anarchy and on the news you see stuff like this. You never hear of anything good coming from bikers, just bad stuff.

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Oct 3rd 2013, 17:48:35

http://www.forbes.com/...-pirate-roberts-arrested/

Who knew it would take a government shut down to shut down this dude?

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Oct 3rd 2013, 17:41:30

Originally posted by Monex:
Status: jayr (#100)- Alive

It kinda makes you guy’s looks like fluffs if you kill everyone in the tag multiple times but leave jayr alive the entire set after citing him as the sole reason for war.

jayr is a fluff and a great reason for war but for righteousness sake you do have to kill him at least once...


Preach it brother!

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Oct 3rd 2013, 0:15:17

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by dittie:
I HIGHLY doubt you would have reacted that way.

Why don't you just roll down your window and say, hey, let me pass?
Or just stop and let them ride by you. Why do you need to be confrontational in the first place?

A smart person would realize they are outnumbered and would just do what the thousands of other people did if you watch the 10 other videos of them riding through town. Stop, pull over, or just wait for them to pass.

I'm just trying to say, the driver is just as guilty of being a moron as the group of bikers chasing him.



are you serious? so you just let them have the right to the road, fluff that i pay my taxes, i bet the guy in the video does too. Those pricks have no right to stop him driving on the road because they want it to themslves

I would of hit as many of those fluffers as i could if i was in that guys shoes being chased, well at the same time calling the cops advising them so.


Also if you watch where was he supposed to go? He was in the middle lane with motorcycles on both sides.

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Oct 2nd 2013, 4:10:19

Originally posted by Heston:
wasnt a post rambling on about tampon absorption qualities


lololol

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Oct 2nd 2013, 3:25:43

Why are people so stupid?
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/...yc-range-rover-chase?lite

One rider is paralyzed, one charged. While I feel bad for the guy hurt, he decided to be at a illegal daredevil event.

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Sep 30th 2013, 23:23:33

The western world's version of Gangnam Style.

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Sep 30th 2013, 14:55:13

Originally posted by SakitSaPuwit:
I Hate USC, I always thought Kiffen was perfect for them.


i know it gave me more of a reason to root against them.

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Sep 28th 2013, 1:10:35

Originally posted by oats:
I would dislike to join a clan with a name that sounds foolish to pronounce. This would complicate many real human interactions.


Well actually DANGER is a acronym. This isnt known to many people but I will share by big secret with you, (dont let Sam know). It actually stands for:
Drunk Adults Never Getting Enough Respect. Thus they use the letters of power and funny posts to gain respect.

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Sep 22nd 2013, 14:47:53

i had the same exact thing haha. I noticed that when i clicked on the pictures after turning off adblock it a pop-up called "Ad4Game Tracking" opened, so maybe that has something to do with their switch?

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Sep 22nd 2013, 7:05:11

Originally posted by giants1223:
Can someone enlighten me about how a country with 0 industrial complexes has 198,000 spies?


I guess you found NSA's country.

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Sep 22nd 2013, 7:04:25

Originally posted by braden:


yeah thats seems to solve the problem, i had the same issue, the page loaded but the pictures didnt. Disable adblock and the pictures appear.

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Sep 21st 2013, 1:30:13

The images are loading for me. I used the Top100 bonus yesterday and it worked, but now the page loads but no images. I dont know if this something with my internet, or a more widespread problem.

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Sep 20th 2013, 22:55:44

I understand the nw/unit ratios. Cause right now in my private market it is better to buy troops than tanks, troops = $246/Nw while tanks are $250.5/NW. But of course that doesnt take into consideration private market running out, public market costs, etc... I was just wondering if there was a general rule of thumb for stock to NW.

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Sep 20th 2013, 14:50:01

Is there like a rule of thumb for a relation between stock amount and NW? Like does 1billion stocked ~ 500million NW or whatever?

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Sep 19th 2013, 5:47:28

Originally posted by ColoOutlaw:
I get what you are saying now. The mechanics just don't make sense. In what world would goods being sold not go to the highest bidder? Except for certain contract auctions of course. But as a newer player, this makes absolutely no sense to me. I put in the highest bids, I took the risk of purchasing product at a higher cost then I don't even end up with my own stuff? I was willing to pay more than every single person on FFA and I don't even end up with the goods? The free market doesn't seem so free anymore...


I think your over thinking it... you didnt outbid everyone on FFA you actually underbid most of FFA. Just because you submit a standing order that doesnt mean someone is going to sell to you at that price. Standing orders are like me going to the tv store and saying I will buy 100 tv's at $150, when they are currently selling at $250. If their product isnt moving, or is moving slowly, or they want a guaranteed sale they can take me up on my offer, but they dont have to.

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Sep 19th 2013, 4:17:37

uhh huh...

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Sep 18th 2013, 23:52:50

Originally posted by Twain:
we'll be happy to do a NAP.


I too like naps.

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Sep 18th 2013, 23:50:25

all i can say is wow.

http://www.nfl.com/...d-browns-trent-richardson

They send away the #3 overall pick last year for a probable 20 something pick next year. I understand running backs are fairly expendable aside from the top 5 but Richardson looked pretty good on a 5 win team last year.

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Sep 18th 2013, 14:26:25

damn... troops were at $350 for a little while there.

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Sep 18th 2013, 3:40:33

what about that Bama defense? You can say one man cant beat a team but if I were Bama I would be a little worried they racked up so many yards and points. Sure Manziel is a special talent but how are they going to do against teams with good offenses and better defenses (i.e. Georgia, LSU, heck, South Carolina, heck even Oregon or Ohio State if they play them).

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Sep 17th 2013, 5:49:34

The rule does state that when in question it is a foul. I personally thought it wasnt a foul, but that was in a replay and in slow mo. It wasnt a blatant miss, from different angles it looked like helmet to helmet.

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Sep 16th 2013, 19:49:44

yeah i have that problem too, and if I click on it I am redirected to EE portal.

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Sep 16th 2013, 14:33:35

YAY!!!! Thank you.

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Sep 16th 2013, 14:19:00

Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
don't get all happy, san fran is plagued by injuries.

But hey how about my az cards, that was a much better game.


Seattle has some significant injuries also.

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Sep 11th 2013, 15:18:17

Who do you think I am? John Clayton? Ain't nobody got time for that!

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Sep 11th 2013, 3:48:31

[quote poster=BILL_DANGER; 26311; 486805]I STOPPED READING AFTER #1

BECAUSE THE SEAHAWKS ARE ALL THAT MATTER!

I JUST ASSUME THAT THE REST OF YOUR RANKINGS ARE EQUALLY ASTUTE, AND COMMEND YOU ON A JOB WELL DONE!


HA!

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THE MIGHTY CLAN [DANGER]! [/quote]

WHY THANK YOU! I TOO SHARE YOUR THINKING ABOUT THE SEAHAWKS. BUT DECIDED TO INCLUDE THE OTHER 31 LOSERS TO TRY AND INSTRUCT THE FANS OF THE OTHER LOSERS OF THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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Sep 11th 2013, 3:44:56

Ok i finished the list, though it is a week late i tried to not take into account this week when writing my reasons. Around week 9 i probably will do a revised power rankings, unless i feel like doing them sooner. Some of the rankings in the various groups are fluid but these are how i think the teams will look like at the end of the year. And of course there will be changes, its why football's so fun!

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Sep 10th 2013, 4:30:06

Originally posted by Donny:
JETS RANKED 32? COMEON.. LOL fluffIN HATER.


Ok fine they can be #31, happy? lol

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Sep 10th 2013, 4:28:59

Originally posted by Makolyte:
The secondary is below average yeah. They tend to give up big plays. But up front we are very good.
-3 ints (1 pick 6 called back because of dumb penalty)
-3 sacks
-Held Peterson to only 93 yards. He had 78 yards on one carry, then contained to 15 yards total on the remaining 17 carries. That's insanely good consider it's Peterson. Those big rush plays come down the secondary sucking.

I think the awesomeness up front balances out the weakness in the secondary.

I dunno, with this really good balanced offense + overall average defense it's going to be hard to not be a top 10 team.



After watching the game sunday i am starting to agree with you, but we will see if this is a product of playing against Ponder or if pass defense is actually improved. But they definitely looked good.

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Sep 9th 2013, 15:10:47

sorry dude i dont think the lions are a top-10 team, if things go right for them this year they could be a #6 seed in the playoffs, but i am not sold on that pass defense. If they were in the AFC they might be a playoff team though.

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Sep 8th 2013, 16:46:46

Ok so i decided to do some more explanation for the other teams.

Just missed the cut:

13. Washington Redskins
MVP: RB Alfread Morris
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: RG3's ACL
Breakout player: QB Kirk Cousins
Why they are here: Kirk Cousins is their breakout player. And though the defense gets back a lot of injured players will they be able to stop the top offenses?

14. Miami Dolphins
MVP: QB Ryan Tannehill
Biggest Strength: Passing Game
Biggest Question: Defensive Secondary
Breakout Player: QB Ryan Tannehill
Why they are here: This team has a lot of promise on offense and could be a sleeper AFC East pick for next year. Tannehill has potential and will show that potential but it wont be quite enough to make the playoffs.

15. St. Louis Rams
MVP: MLB James Laurinaitis
Biggest Strength: Defense
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: OLB Alec Ogletree
Why there are here: Can Sam Bradford take the next step? Can the combo of Pead and Richardson replace the beast that was Jackson? They play in the NFC West.

16. Minnesota Vikings
MVP: RB Adrian "AP" Peterson
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Quarterback
Breakout Player: FS Harrison Smith
Why they are here: Will Ponder/Cassell be able to take the pressure off of Peterson? Is age going to catch up to Allen and Williams on the D-line? Will Jennings play like last year or 2010?

17. Kansas City Chiefs
MVP: QB Alex Smith
Biggest strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Wide Recievers not named Bowe
Breakout player: SS Eric Berry
Why they are here: The pieces are forming for a playoff team, but they arent all there yet. Will Andy Reid give Jamaal Charles the LeSean McCoy and forget he has a top-5 running back? Was last year a sign of things to come for Alex Smith or not?

18. Tennesse Titans
MVP: QB Jake Locker
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Wide Recievers
Breakout Player: QB Jake Locker
Why they are here: Another team which is a couple of players away from the playoffs. Will WR Kenny Britt play like its 2012 or 2010? Will Chris Johnson live up to his 2k nickname?

19. Chicago Bears
MVP: WR Brandon Marshall
Biggest Strength: Defensive Secondary
Biggest Question: Offense (everyone not named Marshall)
Breakout player: WR Alshon Jeffery
Why they are here: How will they play under Marc Trestman new scheme? Can Forte stay healthy? Can Cutler lead this team?

20. Dallas Cowboys
MVP: QB Tony Romo
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: WR Terrance Williams
Why they are here: Tony Romo is their MVP. RB DeMarco Murray can't stay healthy. How will that switch to a 4-3 defense affect their pass rush, namely DeMarcus Ware.

I will do the rest later, but its time to watch some football!!!

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Sep 8th 2013, 16:15:33

Originally posted by Boltar:
Requiem: while i do think eli is good, if Peyton had even half the defense Eli has had.. Peyton i dont think would have lost to the saints and possibly might have another


What about last year? Even with that defensive lapse to tie the game Manning still threw a pick in overtime and couldnt lead a drive to win the game in OT. Though Peyton would have killed for a defense like the Giants while he was in Indy.

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Sep 8th 2013, 16:00:09

Originally posted by locket:
Eddie Lacy will stand up for the Pack this year. He looked awesome the one time he played with Rodgers


I was debating between him and Finely, but decided on finely because he has looked good so far and the Packers are a passing team. Though Lacey could be the back to finally go over 1000 yards in a season for them.

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Sep 8th 2013, 15:58:17

Originally posted by locket:
I am saying that if Vick wins the next two or three years in a row that he still doesnt deserve to be in because he is simply not good enough. A team that is good enough could win with someone like him if he didnt get hurt. That is why I dont think people who say Eli is comparable to Peyton are talking sense. If you have two QBs with identical stats I guess you could use it but football is a team game so I disagree with using it otherwise. It is a tradition to do so though.


That is true... but given their track record who would you rather have for your playoff team? Eli or Peyton. Peyton has had so many great seasons but they have only made 1 superbowl. I understand that Peyton is by far the better quarterback but for whatever reason he doesnt win in the playoffs.

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Sep 8th 2013, 15:53:43

Originally posted by iScode:

Why is it you list the MVP's position in every team but 1 and 2. I am going to assume Lynch is not a QB? Sorry uneducated people like me need this information.


I started filling it out without positions then thought it would be a good idea. But cut me some slack it was like 1am :P haha

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Sep 8th 2013, 7:02:41

and yes this took way too much time haha

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Sep 8th 2013, 7:02:24

since everyone else is doing it I thought i should join in the fun :D

This is how I think everyone will finish at the end of the year.

Playoff teams:

1. Seattle Seahawks: Super Bowl champions.
Regular Season record: 12-4
MVP: RB Marshawn Lynch
Biggest strength: Defensive secondary.
Biggest question mark: Offensive line.
Breakout player: WR Golden Tate
Why they win: Arguably the most complete team in football, can pound the ball, air out the ball, stuff the run, and have #1 secondary in football.

2. Denver Broncos: Superbowl Losers
Regular Season Record: 13-3
MVP: QB Peyton Manning
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: TE Julius Thomas (ok this is kind of cheating :P)
Why they lose: Can that running game take any pressure off Manning in the playoffs? Will the defense be as good as last year?

3. San Fransisco: Loses in the NFC championship game.
Regular Season Record: 11-5
MVP: QB Colin Kaepernick
Biggest Strength: Defensive front 7
Biggest Question mark: Injuries (both past and future ex: Colin Kaepernick in the running game)
Breakout Player: FS Eric Reid
Why they lose: Can they withstand the injury bug which they seem to have? Will Kaepernick avoid injury running the option? Does Frank Gore have enough in the tank?

4. Atlanta Falcons: Loses in NFC Divisional Round
Record: 12-4
MVP: QB Matt Ryan
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Defense
Breakout Player: DB Desmond Trufant
Why they lose: Can that defense stop opposing offenses at least 3 times a game? Does Steven Jackson have enough left in the tank?

5. Green Bay Packers: Loses in NFC Divisional Round
Regular Season Record: 11-5
MVP: QB Aaron Rodgers
Biggest Strength: Passing game
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: TE Jermichael Finley
Why they lose: Will a real running back please stand up? Its been 43 games without a 100 yard rusher in a game.

6. Cincinnati Bengals: Loses in AFC Championship game.
Regular Season Record: 12-4
MVP: WR A.J. Green
Biggest Strength: Wide Recievers/Tight Ends
Biggest Question: Can Andy Dalton be a playoff winning QB?
Breakout player: RB Giovani Bernard
Why they lose: Is Andy Dalton ready for the big time? Will he ever be? There are also some questions on the defensive side of the ball.

7. Houston Texans: Lose in AFC Divisional Round
Regular Season Record: 13-3
MVP: RB Arian Foster
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Quarter Back
Breakout Player: WR DeAndre Hopkins
Why they lose: Matt Schaub is not a playoff quarterback. Once again Houston will get a first round bye yet make a early exit because of mistakes at quarterback and a questionable defensive secondary.

8. New England Patriots: Lose in AFC Divisional Round
Regualar Season Record: 11-5
MVP: QB Tom Brady
Biggest Strenth: Quarter Back
Biggest Question: Everyone else not named Brady or Wilfork
Breakout player: WR Kenbrell Thompkins
Why they lose: Their entire offense besides Brady is a question mark. Will Gronk be Gronk again? Can that secondary stop anybody?

9. Indianapolis Colts: Lose in AFC Wildcard Round
Record: 10-6
MVP: QB Andrew Luck
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Defense
Breakout Player: WR T.Y Hilton
Why they lose: Will the defense be able to get enough stops? Will Bradshaw be able to run like he did a few years ago? Will Luck have to throw 50 times a game to win?

10. New Orleans Saints: Lose in NFC Wildcard Round
Regular Season Record: 10-6
MVP: QB Drew Brees
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question Mark: Running Game
Breakout Player: WR Kenny Stills
Why they lose: Will the running game be able to keep defenses honest? Can they stop anybody from scoring?

11. New York Giants: Lose in NFC Wildcard Round
Record: 9-7
MVP: WR Hakeem Nicks
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: DB Prince Amukamara
Why they lose: Will their defense be able to stop the top passing attacks? Will the running game be able to generate a consistent attack?

12. Baltimore Ravens: Lose in AFC Wildcard Round
Regular Season Record: 10-6
MVP: RB Ray Rice
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Pass Defense
Breakout Player: OLB Courtney Upshaw
Why they lose: The perfect storm that was last years playoff run doesnt occur again. Will trading Boldin come back to haunt the Ravens? Can Dumerville and Suggs continue their success? Will the secondary be able to stop the top quarterbacks?

Just missed the cut:

13. Washington Redskins
MVP: RB Alfread Morris
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: RG3's ACL
Breakout player: QB Kirk Cousins
Why they are here: Kirk Cousins is their breakout player. And though the defense gets back a lot of injured players will they be able to stop the top offenses?

14. Miami Dolphins
MVP: QB Ryan Tannehill
Biggest Strength: Passing Game
Biggest Question: Defensive Secondary
Breakout Player: QB Ryan Tannehill
Why they are here: This team has a lot of promise on offense and could be a sleeper AFC East pick for next year. Tannehill has potential and will show that potential but it wont be quite enough to make the playoffs.

15. St. Louis Rams
MVP: MLB James Laurinaitis
Biggest Strength: Defense
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: OLB Alec Ogletree
Why there are here: Can Sam Bradford take the next step? Can the combo of Pead and Richardson replace the beast that was Jackson? They play in the NFC West.

16. Minnesota Vikings
MVP: RB Adrian "AP" Peterson
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Quarterback
Breakout Player: FS Harrison Smith
Why they are here: Will Ponder/Cassell be able to take the pressure off of Peterson? Is age going to catch up to Allen and Williams on the D-line? Will Jennings play like last year or 2010?

17. Kansas City Chiefs
MVP: QB Alex Smith
Biggest strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Wide Recievers not named Bowe
Breakout player: SS Eric Berry
Why they are here: The pieces are forming for a playoff team, but they arent all there yet. Will Andy Reid give Jamaal Charles the LeSean McCoy and forget he has a top-5 running back? Was last year a sign of things to come for Alex Smith or not?

18. Tennesse Titans
MVP: QB Jake Locker
Biggest Strength: Running Game
Biggest Question: Wide Recievers
Breakout Player: QB Jake Locker
Why they are here: Another team which is a couple of players away from the playoffs. Will WR Kenny Britt play like its 2012 or 2010? Will Chris Johnson live up to his 2k nickname?

19. Chicago Bears
MVP: WR Brandon Marshall
Biggest Strength: Defensive Secondary
Biggest Question: Offense (everyone not named Marshall)
Breakout player: WR Alshon Jeffery
Why they are here: How will they play under Marc Trestman new scheme? Can Forte stay healthy? Can Cutler lead this team?

20. Dallas Cowboys
MVP: QB Tony Romo
Biggest Strength: Passing Attack
Biggest Question: Running Game
Breakout Player: WR Terrance Williams
Why they are here: Tony Romo is their MVP. RB DeMarco Murray can't stay healthy. How will that switch to a 4-3 defense affect their pass rush, namely DeMarcus Ware.

Never Really In Contention:

21. Carolina Panthers
MVP: QB Cam Newton
Biggest Strength: Defensive front 7
Biggest Question: Defensive seconday
Breakout Player: DT Star Lotulelei
Why they are here: They play in the NFC South. The secondary has some questions. Do they have the right coaches for the job? Will Cam Newton play like he did to end the season last year or how played to start the season?

22. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
MVP: RB Doug Martin
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Quarterback
Breakout Player: DE Adrian Clayborn
Why they are here: Josh Freeman might not be the franchise quarterback they thought they had. Is Sciano the right coach. they have to play the Saints and Falcons 4 times this year. There is a lot of pieces on this team but will they all work properly together?

23. Cleveland Browns
MVP: RB Trent Richards
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Passing game
Breakout player: OLB Barkevious Mingo
Why they are here: The Browns managed to draft the equivalent of Marlon Jackson from the Jackson 5 from 2012's stellar quarterback draft. Also Brandon Weeden doesnt have a great reciever on the team. While the defense should be improved and the running game has lots of potential they will only go as far as Weeden (who's older than Aaron Rodgers, think about that for a while) takes them.

24. Pittsburgh Steelers
MVP: RB Le'Veon Bell
Biggest Strength: Defense
Biggest Question: Age
Breakout player: RB Le'Veon Bell
Why they are here: On paper this is a potential playoff team, but unfortunelty for them that was 3 years ago. While the defense is still a force age is catching up, also the injury bug seems to have bit the Steelers this year. If Rothelesburger finds the fountain of youth this team could make the playoffs but more than likely this might be first losing season for the Steelers in a decade.

25. Detroit Lions
MVP: QB Calvin Johnson
Biggest Strength: Passing game
Biggest Question: Pass defense
Breakout player: DE Ezekiel Ansah
Why they are here: The Lions are an interesting team, they have all the talent in the world but have some of the stupidest plays and fouls in the NFL. If it can go wrong for the Lions it seems to go wrong. If they stop shooting themselves in the foot they just might make some noise this year.

There's always next year.

26. Philadelphia Eagles
MVP: RB LeSean McCoy
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Defense
Breakout Player: OLB Connor Barwin
Why they are here: This is another team which could push for the playoffs or fall on their faces this year. While the offense looks like it could be a force this year there is always the question about Michael Vick's health and decision making. Also will the defense be able to keep opposing offenses out of the endzone?

27. San Diego Chargers
MVP: QB Phillip Rivers
Biggest Strength: Passing game
Biggest Question: Running game
Breakout Player: WR Keenan Allen
Why they are here: Will the passing game be able to carry this team? Will their defense stop the other team? How will their first year coach do? Will Phillip Rivers play at a pro bowl level again?

28. Arizona Cardinals
MVP: WR Larry Fitzgerald
Biggest Strength: Pass Defense
Biggest Question: Running game
Breakout Player: DB Tyrann Mathieu
Why they are here: They play in the NFC West. Will Carson Palmer play like he did in Oakland or like he did before he got hurt in Cincy? Who's running the ball? Will anyone else step up at wide reciever besides Fitzgerald?

29. Buffalo Bills
MVP: RB C.J. Spiller
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Quarterback
Breakout Player: WR Robert Woods
Why they are here: Will EJ Manuel live up to the expectations? Is the combo of Spiller/Jackson good enough to move the ball on the ground consistently?

Its going to be a looooonnnng year

30. Jacksonville Jaguars
MVP: RB Maurice Jones-Drew
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Passing game
Breakout Player: WR Cecil Shorts
Why they are here: Where to begin? Gabbert might just be the worst QB in the league. The defense isnt that great. Maurice Jones-Drew is a good running back but will receive the same attention as Adrian Peterson without the same ability. The Jaguars picked Gabbert ahead of Colin Kaepernick and Andy Dalton in 2010...

31. Oakland Raiders
MVP: QB Terrel Pryor
Biggest Strength: Running game
Biggest Question: Defense
Breakout player: CB DJ Hayden
Why they are here: The Raiders are a mess plain and simple. Major questions at the quarterback, wide receiver, and defensive side of the ball. Even their running back, McFadden has major health concerns. If everything goes right this could be a 8-8 team, if everything goes wrong this could be a winless team. Things do not look good right now for the Raiders

Winner of the Jadaveon Clowney Sweepstakes

32. NY Jets
MVP: Do i have to?.... sigh.... fine: CB Antonio Cromartie
Biggest Strength: Pass defense
Biggest Question: Quarterback
Breakout Player: CB Dee Miliner
Why they are here: The offense is a wreck, and its not all Sanchez and Smith's fault. Who is supposed to run the ball or catch the ball? This team is at least a year away from competing for a playoff spot.

So there you go Frodo's stone, cold, locks for the upcoming NFL Season.

Edited By: Frodo on Sep 11th 2013, 15:16:06
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Sep 8th 2013, 5:40:25

I think we are kind of have a misunderstanding haha. Obviously guys like Vick, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, etc wont be in the hall of fame. I am trying to say when you want to rank the top-10 quarterbacks of all time you have to look at championship rings. That is why Dan Marino is rarely put into the conversation. I am not trying to say winning a championship or even 2 means you should be in the hall of fame, you still have to look at regular season stats. What I am saying is that when you look at guys who are aleady in the hall of fame with amazing regular season stats championships is sometimes the best way to determine best ever.

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Sep 7th 2013, 21:48:01

Originally posted by locket:
Superbowls are not a QB stat Req. They are a team stat that a QB has a fair bit of influence on. There are some pretty bad or average QBs who have won Superbowls and if you used that as a stat they could be considered as good as Peyton which is ridiculous.


You are right in the aspect that winning a superbowl is a team accomplishment. But when you start trying to determine greastest ever then it is probably the most influential stat. Hall of Fame Coach and Quarterback are the only 2 positions on a football team which are inevetibly judged by championships at the end of their careers. You dont hear anyone saying that Sanders might not havev been the best RB ever because he never got one, or that Walter "Sweetness" Peyton was not the best ever because he only got 1. But you will hear people saying Favre, Marino, and others are not the greatest ever because of they dont have multiple rings.

Of course this only really applies to hall of fame quarterbacks who are retired... so yeah.

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Sep 7th 2013, 6:24:19

In my opinion Manning is possibly the greatest regular season quarterback to play the game, but when it comes to the playoffs he always seems to lose. You can blame his defense, running game, or whatever. But to be considered "greatest ever" you have to win the rings baby, and while he has one I think that still the greatest quarterback of the last decade or so is Tom Brady as much as it pains me to say that.

Oh and go Hawks! :P

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Sep 5th 2013, 6:36:14

Originally posted by Trife:
Playoffs aren't until next season, are they?


Oh yeah, my bad... i saw they were supposed to start in 2014 and thought they meant this season.

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Sep 4th 2013, 15:27:52

UW huskies finish 10-2 go to the 2nd highest Pac-12 bowl, which i think is the Alamo bowl. Oregon gets into 4-team playoff. Someone other than an SEC team wins championship. Bama doesnt make the playoff.

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Sep 3rd 2013, 5:39:48

wow.... there are no words which can get rid of the pain you must be feeling. My prayers go out to you. One Bible verse which comes to mind for me is Revelations 21:4 "He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

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Sep 1st 2013, 5:40:42

Does this apply to all the wannabe gangsters and 5 year olds playing CoD?