FROOT LOOPS FTW

I can guarantee that this response is concise in Twain Terms. I'd know. I can write novels.

Sex and Beer = Good

Triple Tap = 5:3

Wheeling, West Virginia here. Use Pittsburgh, PA as a point of reference. We are 50 miles SSW of there.

Mid to upper 80's the next week or so. Lows in the upper 50's.

Thank GOD for Global warming.

I always forget

How soon they forget.


*sigh*

All the cool kids are.

Having countries with different strats is not great. You end up with countries trading land that's built differently. Say your Techer and Farmer are trading.

The techer is getting farms during the trade and the Farmer is getting labs. That means you have to tear them down and rebuild them as the types that fit your country's setup.

It's really not all THAT significant at 50,000 acres per country but IS inefficient. Inefficiency that can cost you a lot of places in the standings. The more turns you spend rebuilding acres to the types of structures you need is less turns you have at the end preparing your stockpiles or increasing what ever production it is that you are doing.

One country should only trade 5 times with any other. I personally only go 4, but you can get a tiny bit of benefit from a 5th hit if you do it only after all your countries have hit each other 4 times and you have max acres from 4 land trades.

A and B hit each other 4 times.
C and D hit each other 4 times.
A and C hit each other 4 times.
B and D hit each other 4 times.
A and D hit each other 4 times.
B and C hit each other 4 times.

Land trading is a good way to get large acres only if you're running 16 countries. If you run less, you really need to take those 4 countries and farm the Bot Countries before you start trading between your own countries.

It's a trap.

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Trap. Trust me.

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But wait! There's MORE!

mac sighting!

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I made up a little spreadsheet for that which can be adjusted for acreage as it goes up or down

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No no... You're confusing CHupacabras with Chalupacabras. THEM disty bastards can't be trusted.

This looks like fun. I'm taking out the trash underneath this.

Ford isn't terribly likeable, but he is what he is and he's right.

I personally think it's good for small clans to bring their grievances to FFAt where a lot of people do not. You'll see guys from "established clans" tell you that you can do FA behind the scenes and all, but IMO, the "little guy" doing his business here is smart.

If for no other reason, there's a "public record" of happenings that can be seen by anyone who might have an interest. That said, ford's suggestion of a dedicated retaller is a very good one. Make the attacker pay.

That's actually an interesting idea. Tagging up with you I mean.

LOL.. I'm not complaining at all fordy. Today was one of those times when this game was actually fun for a change. Someone thought they had a free meal and got an unpleasant surprise courtesy one Dragon.

Have you guys totally lost the spirit of the game when some smack talking added spice to the forum and helped keep things interesting?

@Juusto - I didn't say it would have been "fine" to kill my one untagged. I SAID that had you farmed and then killed it, there would have been nothing I could do about it. And it's probably the smartest thing to do if you're going to farm non-bot untagged countries. Obviously, today's results point that out.

As it turned out, by farming and NOT killing that untagged country, I got the opportunity to gain land beyond my wildest expectations after being killed twice by a suicider.

Earlier in this set, some asshole farmed me for about 200 hits in a couple days. Couldn't do a damn thing about it. Unfortunately for your guy, that wasn't the case this morning.

I can't tell people how to play. I don't farm untaggeds if I think "real people" are running the country and this is EXACTLY why I don't.

"Good graces" probably wasn't the best way to put it. More like "connected".

Yes. You did a great job with your solo tag. And every swingin fluff on the server knew your connections and weren't about to mess with you. And that doesn't mean I'm slamming you because on your own; you're able to TCOB and have.

Just saying that being in the good graces of the top clans is much more important than whether one is a fluff or not.

I know that Big. Which is why I stated that forgetting to tag a restart was my bad. As far as gloating? Maybe. It also points out the potential problems of farming untaggeds especially when Admin provides bots to farm at will.

I just find a great deal of humor in it. Dude was all... Hmmm... "Tasty land farm. No way I'm risking anything HERE. GOnna have me some free lunch."

Then the bill came. It just tickled me and I get to come on the boards and talk some fluff from a position that can't be argued in terms of the "rules". Am I a fluff for rubbing PAN's noses in it? I suppose you could look at it that way, but there's also a dozen or better "little guys" out there who just became my friend for life.

Here's what I would suggest to EVERYONE if they're going to farm untaggeds that aren't fairly obvious Admin bots. Kill them after you farm them. Had the PAN guy done that with MY country, there would not and could not have been a retal of any kind or request for FA or reps.

You guys are pretty smart. I know cause I used to play in PANLV. Y'all will figure it out. ;)

You farmed my country, Juusto. The acreage isn't the issue. The principle is. My bad for forgetting to tag up. YOUR bad for farming it.

1:1 is certainly fair and reasonable in any case. One more retal and our business will be concluded. :)

Still have 1 to go. I'll let your guy get out of DR before I take another. :)


See ya tomorrow!!

4 done, 2 to go. I'm being nice and only taking 1:1 on these 6 hits.

I have 72 hours to get all 6. These retals might sting a little. :)

I don't know what I'm doing next set. Probably NOT playing in a small tag though. Too many malicious assholes floating around out there. It's a damn shame. I personally think that small clans are helping to keep the game afloat and I don't mean by being landfarms. fluffin' server is turning into 1a.

*shudder*

Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't tagged up my one and only restart. I don't believe you had to hit it 6 times though. Once or twice would certainly have pointed it out to me.

We need to find a player whose nick starts with a B and one tat starts with an M. We could call our clan BDSM. That would be hilarious.

I actually spent a couple sets with TKO. Great guys.

LOL! No, sir. Call it background research for future use. My mind is far too dirty to wash, by the way.

Thanks. I had the right idea but wrong economy.

Not as easy a question as the title might imply.

Here's what I'm looking for. Putting war aside, what's the most effective Gov/Tech/Economy setup for a would-be assassin.

My personal preference would be A Tyr Casher loaded with Bus/Res/Mil/Warfare/Strategy techs. My thinking here is that Tyrs get 1 turn attacks and with enough Warfare tech, a larger Tyr can refresh readiness while flipping missiles at countries who would be most likely to mount a CS against them.

I've run Tyr Techers in the past, but they depend on the market and timely sales to keep funded. Same would apply for a Tyr oiler or farmer. Mind you. I'm talking about assassins here, and not netgainers or even maybe "mainsteam was builds".

Recent events have got me to thinking about this simply from the standpoint of a one man band being able to maximize damage on a FS against a tag 3-4 times his size.

Suggestions?

TKO is a good lot to hang out with. I'd recommend them in a skinny minute.

I appreciate all the inbox offers I got. You know who you are and at some point, I want to hang out in your clans for a set or two and some I'd like to hang out with again.

For now, I'm living in Hobbiton. Where they know how to serve a proper pint. fluff with me and I'll hit you in the nose with an expertly thrown apple.

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These NOD fluffs are just going to farm me daily if I stay solo. Not a thing I can do about it other than join a clan. It feels like giving up but I'm not about to take turns every day just to be a land farm. These fluffs play like this server is 1a and don't give a fluff.

Guess I gotta hook up with someone.

If I was in a clan right now, war would have been declared. Yet another round of farming and there's nothing I can do about it, plain and simple.

Look at the player base.

When there was 40,000 countries on the server, it was one thing. Now, you have MAYBE 150 players running 1/10 of that. If the bots can be tailored to emulate a "hand run" country including retals and killing as a programmed function, at the least, you get a bigger land pool and one that is not without risk.

Maybe you should be more invested in what's good for the game, smeggy. God forbid.

You're a special kind of stupid and that's fine. While it was me this time, I'm certainly not the only player on the server.

Interesting POV. Except that if the "additional new player" drives off another player, the net result is a player that is bad for the server.

On my end, I didnt expect to get farmed like that a few days out of protection. I was a day away from having enough defense to not allow 104 hits in 2 hours. MY bad.

That said, I spied this guy. Commie indies built like he KNEW what he was doing. Even at my current defense levels, he still could have easily done a 30 hit run against me.

The fact that he DID a farming run is what the problem is here. Especially when there's UNTAGGED BOT COUNTRIES to hit as opposed to farming a declared tag.

The funny (and suspicious) part is that the acreage he took from me could have been as easily explored this early in the reset.

I don't make comments just because I'm pissed off. There's a thought process. He's either an idiot or malignant. Maybe both.

I don't believe for a minute this is a "new player". What - I - believe is that this is an asshole who knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

Are you kidding me? Farm the hell out of a bunch of people and suddenly change tags? That indicates a PLAN, dude.

I would assume as time goes on, they'll have advanced capacity to retal, etc...

Although, free farmland is appealing.

For as long as this game has existed, an entire clan can be (and often is) held accountable for the actions of its members. That's just the reality of the server going back 18 years.

I'm not saying that - I - would make YOU personally pay the price for his actions. I'm saying that others maybe would and likely WILL. Normally, when people accept members or agree to partnerships, there's a vetting process involved. Back in the "old days", a player could maybe do anything he or she wanted to another clan or player and if he asked the right clan, he could get in and be protected by them regardless.

That's far less likely nowadays. When I founded my clan (ESD) back in 2000 or so, I told my members straight up that if THEY screw up, THEY pay the price. Unfortunately, not all other clans saw things that way. In this game, one bad apple CAN spoil the whole bunch. Trust me on this.

There's only so much you can fix. You're lucky he did what he did BEFORE changing tags. Otherwise, you'd already be dead. That said, the fact that he did what he did BEFORE he changed tags is probably irrelevant.

Again, I recommend you detag him.

You'll also want to check all his news on other countries. He hit my countries (ESD) 104 times in about a 2 hour time span yesterday afternoon. I may be a single player, but I am a declared tag on the server and expect the same treatment from every other declared tag that would be given to the biggest, meanest clan on the boards.

No need to send a PM. There's really nothing to discuss. I've chased countries into tags where they thought they would have safe harbor before. You don't hit me 104 times in 2 hours and hide ANYWHERE. You should be prepared for hostilities at any moment, and you may well pay the price for his actions.

My advice would be to kick him to the curb. NOW.

Just some friendly advice. :)