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Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 16:45:08

Does anyone have a destock calculator, or an easy method of getting a general timeframe. I am currently on the estimation path. But would really like it if anyone is willing to share some information.

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mrford

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Mar 26th 2015, 18:21:40

you havnt given enough info for me to do any calcs for you.

your base PM replenishment is

3 troops
2.5 jets
2.5 turrets
1 tank

per acre, per turn. you can plug your PM prices into that and get a destock time. dont forget to factor in your initial purchase.

a high tech demo can destock at around $1656.5 per acre per turn at $255 per NW. a high tech theo is at around $1252.5 per acre per turn at $225 per NW. obviously your particular PM prices will be more specific.

Edited By: mrford on Mar 26th 2015, 20:32:50

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 19:04:26

Okay.

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Raging Budda

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Mar 26th 2015, 19:59:17

Buy my $700 troops!

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SwedishViper

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Mar 26th 2015, 20:28:25

Isnt it

3 troops
2 (or 2,5) jets/turrets
1 tank

per turn in PM replenish rate.

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mrford

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Mar 26th 2015, 20:33:14

you are correct. my mistake. edited. my other numbers are still correct.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 20:53:15

I can do part of it, but dont quite know how to do it all:

240,000 Troops
195,000 Jets
195,000 Turrets
78,000 Tanks
Per turn
currently have 39 Bil dollars worth of food in this one country

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mrford

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Mar 26th 2015, 20:55:49

...

you multiply the units by their price, and you have how much you can spend per turn.

you divide that into the total cash you have and you have how many turns you need to destock.

this is pretty basic maths.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 20:59:14

17,280,000 Troops per day 1,779,000,000
14,000,000 Mil jet 1,600,000,000
14,000,000 Troops 1,700,000
5,616,000 Tanks (per day) 2,324,000,000

Per 24 hours I think I do got it ;)

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:01:27

so currently need about 5 days to destock with my current country.

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Raging Budda

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:12:50

Originally posted by Syko_Killa:

I can do part of it, but dont quite know how to do it all:

240,000 Troops
195,000 Jets
195,000 Turrets
78,000 Tanks
Per turn
currently have 39 Bil dollars worth of food in this one country

Assuming you have nearly max military tech.

That is about 132-135 mil cash per turn. 72 turns per day = 9.5-9.6 bil cash per day.

That seems awfully high from past expierences even with my previous 55k acre countries. Good to know as I am getting around the similar land total and a 14% PM refresh rate.

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mrford

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:32:43

i didnt check his math, only provided the numbers.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Syko_Killa

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:33:00

well, i'm not too sure how to implement those other things, 78k acres is what this country has, I calculated spending 7.7 Bil cash per day with my calculations. I could very easily be wrong, but I would like I plan on converting to theocracy and im not sure how to add the government replenishment rate into this. Any Ideas?

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mrford

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:37:22

the replenishment rate is the same for all governments

the only change will be PM prices. you know, the value that i have asked you about a couple times but you keep ignoring?

your calculations mean nothing if you are planning to switch to theo because your PM prices will change.

Swagger of a Chupacabra

[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Raging Budda

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Mar 26th 2015, 21:38:46

Originally posted by Syko_Killa:

7.7 bil is about right with being a theo. Keep in mind the exacalting penalty from changing governments if you aren't a mono. Could be ~40% if you are big enough

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Dragon

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Mar 27th 2015, 15:13:58

I made up a little spreadsheet for that which can be adjusted for acreage as it goes up or down

RLintz

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Mar 27th 2015, 22:27:33

http://www.aresempire.com/destockcalculator.xlsx

I'm drunk and tossed this together. It seems to work.

Edit red fields to match your country's stats.

Enjoy

Syko_Killa

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Mar 27th 2015, 23:07:03

what program opens this because my computer wont open this up

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ssewellusmc

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Mar 27th 2015, 23:16:00

Excel...

Syko_Killa

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Mar 27th 2015, 23:47:58

that's what I thought, I don't have excel anymore
Guess I need to get it

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Marshal

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Mar 27th 2015, 23:58:17

dl and install libreoffice and you can open and modify excel and other office files.

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 28th 2015, 1:38:22

yeah thats what enshula suggested to me, Im downloading it now as we speak

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 28th 2015, 2:05:00

Im not sure that calculator is totally correct. is this based off of a theo?

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 28th 2015, 2:07:54

it seems that the timing may be off, looks like I should have already started jumping in all my countries, but my stock seems pretty low still

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RLintz

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Mar 28th 2015, 3:46:58

It's based on, how much PM military cost, how much land you have, and how much food you have, and how much cash if you sold your food on the PM.

As I said, I tossed it together, and I've been drinking heavily for the past 6 hours now.

I'm sure with a clear head I could craft something better. This was the result of it being suggested, I've never made a spreadsheet like this, and I was up to the challenge.

Any other opinions? Feedback welcome...

Syko_Killa

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Mar 28th 2015, 4:22:28

Originally posted by RLintz:

In all honesty, it's far better than I could do sober. I plugged in some numbers and it said with 600m bushels at 42k land that I would need 205 hours to destock, which means I should be destocking now. I find this hard to believe.

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 28th 2015, 4:37:24

did a calc with 42k land and 450mil stock and it told me i needed 461 turns to destock with my pm prices, it is actually 210 turns less.

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RLintz

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Mar 28th 2015, 20:16:15

So mine is not accurate?
I'll play with it this weekend.
Once I get the numbers close, I'll convert it over to a web page.

Thanks for the feedback Syko.

Syko_Killa

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Mar 29th 2015, 0:05:00

Well to be honest I know the calculator doesnt implement your initial buyout, so that could have a something to do with it, but it is still off by a few days im sure, mrford actually did the calc by hand.

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 29th 2015, 0:07:10

also, could you try to do it faster so I dont mess up all my destocks please?

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Raging Budda

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Mar 29th 2015, 0:15:34

all you need is the 3 troop, 2.5 jet, etc amont from above.

Mulitply those numbers by your land and your PM military price and any PM bonus you have.

Add up all 4 totals for troops/jets/tanks/turrets. That is the amount of cash you can spend per turn accumilated.

72 turns per day, as of now there are 503 turns left in the set. So, mutliply your cash you can spend per turn by 503. If you the cash there is far less than than cash/bushels stock you have, time tostart buying on the public market when you see a good price.

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mrford

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Mar 29th 2015, 1:49:58

why are you being so lazy. i told you exactly how to calculate your destock with extremely basic math. do you want your finish to be your own or someone elses?

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Syko_Killa

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Mar 29th 2015, 2:04:13

I want a destock calculator

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mrford

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Mar 29th 2015, 2:16:41

it is called your brain. stop being a lazy fool. or make one yourself, you know the math now.

or you can just keep asking and not getting the answers you want then demanding an answer faster for your convenience....

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Raging Budda

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Mar 29th 2015, 2:33:07

If worst comes to worst, buy out your PM, wait a turn. Then buyout what just got restored. Notice that total cash number and multiply by about 500 now.

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DruncK

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Mar 31st 2015, 14:09:58

https://docs.google.com/...lnc/edit?usp=docslist_api

Made a few years ago, good estimation tool.

SithBob

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Apr 2nd 2015, 9:18:22

Originally posted by Raging Budda:

If worst comes to worst, buy out your PM, wait a turn. Then buyout what just got restored. Notice that total cash number and multiply by about 500 now.

Thats what I did and then realised I destocked way too late :D

Raging Budda

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Apr 2nd 2015, 14:18:55

Public market isn't too bad right now.

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Marshal

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Apr 2nd 2015, 19:07:19

Originally posted by Raging Budda:

Public market isn't too bad right now.

sadly not, non-theo w/o mil tech priv prices are mostly over current public prices.

Raging Budda

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Apr 2nd 2015, 19:54:12

Originally posted by Marshal:

Originally posted by Raging Budda:

Public market isn't too bad right now.

sadly not, non-theo w/o mil tech priv prices are mostly over current public prices.

Who doesn't have military tech at this point?

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Marshal

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Apr 2nd 2015, 20:22:22

dunno (my 16 are maxed) but still if no mil tech then public < priv as non-theo and no mbs.

sucks to be reseller atm (unless is demo or theo).

Raging Budda

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Apr 2nd 2015, 22:08:44

following the pattern of last set with early destockers bringing an early spike to prices a week before the last set before prices bottom out now. i expect prices to start going up quickly soon.

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Marshal

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Apr 3rd 2015, 13:47:54

pretty much same as yesterday but that's due downtime.

DruncK

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Apr 3rd 2015, 14:52:38

Mine has slots for govt bonuses income food production tech values etc worked damn good for me... Also land distribution and rebuilding costs