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Jul 26th 2011, 0:00:53

/me removes the presumptuous stick from Dragon's ass

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Jul 26th 2011, 1:00:01

That was Highrock with those omega countries yeah?

And I gotta give mercs credit they're gonna have a nasty finish
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Pain Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 1:02:45

Originally posted by Dragon:
Originally posted by Pain:
Dragon why are you so sensitive. you go off the handle over the smallest fluff. examples:

rockman telling you hes better then you and you pulling the NBK syndrome.

crippler grabbing you while at war and you intentionally grabbing our biggest country as "payback"

NBK topfeeding you and you deleting all your countries because of it.



You know what? I am what I am. I react how I react. I prolly won't be coming to you anytime soon to review my decisions, and I'm not sure why you're running your suck when you don't have a dog in the fight.



because im sick of seeing you blow up and have hissy fits over every fluffing thing. rockman is a better netter then you, and maybe hes more arrogant about it then he should be. doesnt mean you need to go off the handle about it.
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Jul 26th 2011, 1:24:27

You have the support of NBK Dragon on this move :-) we know exactly where you are coming from in making this decision.
What everyone else thinks does not matter.
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Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 1:25:34

Originally posted by Dragon:
Originally posted by Angryjesus:
it was 163 million a few sets ago.

well this isn't what i was thinking of but here is 176 mill and 150 mill in omega, i believe those were smaller land
http://www.eestats.com/...ce/oldtoptencountries/162


here is the 164 mill the next set, thats on 28k land or so
http://www.eestats.com/...ce/oldtoptencountries/183
it doesn't happen often, but it is possible.



I had, like, a $120M networth country in Alliance when I was playing with Evo. A trained monkey can get that kind of NW in Alliance if they're pacted right because they don't have to spend much on defense. A bunch of low-defense, heavily-pacted land pigs is what 1A is about. That's Talent? I think not.


You played an all-X to around 100 M NW. That Omega country played an all-X to 176 M NW. That is almost double your NW. How is that not talent? And no, he did not gain 76 M NW simply by keeping less defense than you.

I don't understand why some people spend so much time trying to bring down the accomplishments of others. This is a game. It's supposed to be fun.

Havoc Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 3:30:51

Originally posted by Bigwiggle:
That was Highrock with those omega countries yeah?

And I gotta give mercs credit they're gonna have a nasty finish


Nope, Blaf! I think henrik got 150m+ as well.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 3:38:55

wow....must be dragon's time of the month.

If arrogance were edible, we could solve the famine in Africa with this thread.

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Jul 26th 2011, 4:36:12

*Puts K4F's stamp of approval on this thread*
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Jul 26th 2011, 4:44:08

hey Dragon, just pact NBK next set..its the only pact you will ever need anyway :-) lol
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KeTcHuP Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 4:48:28

Rockman- When a 1aer can look at FFA and see me #1 in NW.... they know the netting has to be really easy, or not many netters! lol
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enshula Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 8:32:39

ironically nbk were the ones who farmed me the most when i was in ESD

lae hits were a bit more irritating though because they tried to midfeed me

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Jul 26th 2011, 10:09:52

Originally posted by enshula:
ironically nbk were the ones who farmed me the most when i was in ESD

lae hits were a bit more irritating though because they tried to midfeed me


midfeed?...as in a legit and fair landgrab?..lol. excuse my lack of knowledge on this 'midfeeding' thing.

NBK will grab you if u are fat. you were obviously eating too much sugar when in ESD. :-)
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Rockman Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 11:18:45

Originally posted by Rip It Up:
Originally posted by enshula:
ironically nbk were the ones who farmed me the most when i was in ESD

lae hits were a bit more irritating though because they tried to midfeed me


midfeed?...as in a legit and fair landgrab?..lol. excuse my lack of knowledge on this 'midfeeding' thing.

NBK will grab you if u are fat. you were obviously eating too much sugar when in ESD. :-)


Midfeeding is where you try and outrun retals, so the alliance you hit has to work hard to get enough jets and networth to do the retal. Its very annoying.

Dizology Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 12:47:31

Seems like a strange definition for the term. Sounds like they're just trying to protect their grab/land.


According to wiki
"When a country grabs land from targets with roughly equal networth."

Azz Kikr Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 13:08:31

if you looked at the wiki at the wrong time, you'd think that cashers were worse at warring than a rainbow strategy too. it *is* a publicly editable wiki :p

Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 13:16:04

[quote poster=Pain; 11235; 195969][quote poster=Dragon; 11235; 195857]
Originally posted by Pain:
because im sick of seeing you blow up and have hissy fits over every fluffing thing. rockman is a better netter then you, and maybe hes more arrogant about it then he should be. doesnt mean you need to go off the handle about it.


You know what Pain? I never said he's NOT a better netter than me. In fact, I've always promoted myself at best as a little above average at it surrounded by talented people.

MY issue is that some fluffing self farmer, or a player representing a clan that self farms has the BALLS to look down his nose at clans and players who play "legit".

Had flufftard just kept his hole shut, this thread never would have happened.

Havoc Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 13:33:41

*chuckles politely*
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Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 13:35:08

Originally posted by Havoc:
*chuckles politely*



You don't have to be polite. You were in OG and I was in PAN. ;)

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Jul 26th 2011, 14:27:33

Originally posted by enshula:
well if its that important why not just go through mercs and average out all the countries that didnt self farm landtrade or grab

wont be too hard to work out

anyway the best way to solve all the legit or not legit questions is to have more leaderboards metrics and transparency

end of set let everyone see who fa'd what when

and make leaderboards where you can subtract networth gained or lost from FA, as well as grabbing

and market manipulation, for instance any cash received above or below 10% of daily average sale price with a 3 day rolling average or 24 hour rolling average could be added or subtracted from a countries finish

that would get most of it although with enough goods sold in a low volume commodity the averages tend to move a lot so there would need to be some form of minimum volume where the average period increases


Christ, Enshula, this is kind of complicated, ain't it? What's the deal with all the number crunchers playing here now? Isn't there anyone left who just plays the game for sport and fun?

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Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 14:36:38

Originally posted by Cerberus:
Christ, Enshula, this is kind of complicated, ain't it? What's the deal with all the number crunchers playing here now? Isn't there anyone left who just plays the game for sport and fun?

Cerberus of the MI



Enshula has always been a number cruncher. He amazes me at times with his knowledge of the most subtle and intricate details of the game. It's like a 3rd Grader talking to a Calculus Professor sometimes.

Havoc Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 14:47:14

I play for fun! and the sex.
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Twain Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 15:24:35

I play for 'sport and fun.' Whenever I need numbers crunched, I usually have Havoc or Ozzite crunch them for me. :P

Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 15:44:11

Originally posted by Twain:
I play for 'sport and fun.' Whenever I need numbers crunched, I usually have Havoc or Ozzite crunch them for me. :P


That's cause YOU'RE the Grammar Nazi. ;)

Primeval Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 16:14:34

"Midfeeding" and "topfeeding" are the kinds of terms that this server does not recognize enough to ever enforce or allow an official policy.
One day some of you 1Aers will come to this realization and accept it. Sadly, a whole new slew will come over with the same garbage right behind you.

Edited By: Primeval on Jul 26th 2011, 16:21:22. Reason: wording
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de1i Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 16:26:25

You don't have to enforce a certain type of policy to understand the definition of a term when we use it.

/popcorn at this thread.

Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 17:06:30

Originally posted by Primeval:
"Midfeeding" and "topfeeding" are the kinds of terms that this server does not recognize enough to ever enforce or allow an official policy.
One day some of you 1Aers will come to this realization and accept it. Sadly, a whole new slew will come over with the same garbage right behind you.


You're right. This is NOT 1a and 1a ideas and practices will work about as well on the FFA server as FFA practices work on the 1a server.

Most times, the attempt to apply either philosophy on the opposing server will get you an ass beating.

enshula Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 17:11:27

Originally posted by Rip It Up:
Originally posted by enshula:
ironically nbk were the ones who farmed me the most when i was in ESD

lae hits were a bit more irritating though because they tried to midfeed me


midfeed?...as in a legit and fair landgrab?..lol. excuse my lack of knowledge on this 'midfeeding' thing.

NBK will grab you if u are fat. you were obviously eating too much sugar when in ESD. :-)


midfeed as in dump stock and jump then try to use my countries in the t10 at the time for mbr land or plain private destocking land

i had extra stock which i didnt dump so it just left both of us doing very expensive hits for little gain

it was some guy who i think later suicided on nbk and you killed him, he killed mr cobalt from what i recall

its a descriptive term not a judgemental one anyway

QM Diver Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 18:47:52

And as you admitted to me, you were the only one with high networth countries in NBK.
=========================
LMAO...


What is the "NBK Syndrome"? That's new to me, also...





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DeDLySMuRF Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 18:50:07

<--- Laughs at Mercs...

You may end up with the TNW/AVG NW title this set, but your arrogance has ensured that you wont hit that ever again.

Good luck making it through another set without being hit :)

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Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 19:26:54

Originally posted by QM Diver:
And as you admitted to me, you were the only one with high networth countries in NBK.
=========================
LMAO...


What is the "NBK Syndrome"? That's new to me, also...


"NBK Syndrome" is apparently his pejorative terminology to describe those who honestly object to self-farming because they feel it's detrimental to the server.

Unfortunately for him, I DON'T object to self farming, but I get a case of the ass when people brag about being great when they do it and insult "legit" players and clans. I personally don't care who does it, but when even ONE arrogant fluffsucker lords himself over the crowd and does it, I have a problem.

Tin Man, SV and Jade Penn can net circles around that sonofafluff.

For reasons sort of in line with NBK's philosophy but mostly not, I adopted the same policy they have. I don't want you or any member of NBK to misunderstand me here. And to those who think I'm kissing NBK's ass, I'll remind you that I've (ESD) done just fine WITHOUT a pact with NBK since I brought ESD back in May of 2010 DESPITE the criticism I've sent their way.






CX LaE Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 19:45:07

Interesting, Smurf ... threats? Hmmmmm :)
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DeDLySMuRF Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:16:08

I'm likely not playing next set. So, its not a threat from me.

But I'd be suprised to see merc's get the same pacts they got this set, after they publically called everyone on this server garbage.

If I were them, I'd head back to 1a and leave FFA for the FFAers. None of us care what 1aers think, so his arguement is pretty null and void.
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Rockman Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:16:57

Dragon - if you actually do a good job with your no-landtrading style, I'll give you the respect you deserve. Fact is, ESD struggles to even make 75m anw. Highrock put up 123m anw without self-farming as a 1 man tag in basically her only set on FFA. I respect her for that. Tell me, have I ever insulted highrock?

I've 'insulted' you because of your incompetence, not because you are legit. I 'insulted' PANLV and TKO as well, by calling their netting crappy, too. But why aren't they upset? It wasn't meant as an insult, the problem is, you took it as one because you had too much pride and arrogance. PANLV and TKO don't have pride about their past netting accomplishments. I don't have pride about my netting last set either. Since I played last set, I targeted myself as well with the 'same crappy netting FFA has always seen' insult.

Why did you take my comment personally? I wouldn't have made it if I thought you were actually proud of those 66m anw finishes you put up. I didn't realize that you were naive enough to believe that ESD was a great netting alliance, and that Mercs was spoiling your delusion, and that you'd snap because of it.

I liked you, and I respected you, and I thought that if you believed that ESD would compete with Mercs in TNW and ANW this set like you claimed they would, that you'd be doing better than you did in previous sets.

In the thread you created on July 6th, I told you we were fairly confident we'd break the ANW record, it was more a question of how much we'd break it by. If we're going to break the ANW record, and you're going to compete with us in TNW, putting up your typical 60m to 75m anw isn't going to cut it. You said "I hope you guys can stay out of wars for the set. I want to hand your Azzes to you in ANW and maybe even TNW. ;)"

From the way you talked in that thread, I thought you guys were going to step it up. I genuinely thought that you'd agree with the 'same crappy netting' comment I made, because I thought you guys were going to put up some good countries this set. Even just a week ago, you said "OH. And all those countries with Casino names? Those are JP's. At a guess, multiply their current NW by about 7 or 8."

Those countries were about 18-20 million networth when you said that. You gave me reason to believe that Jade Penn would be putting up about 140m networth per country. If you had one guy putting up 140m anw in your tag, and Tin Man reached 100m anw like he expected, then your tag would be doing far better than before. Tin man had 1.4 billion bushels in one country all the way back on July 6th.

You gave me indicators that ESD would compete with Mercs, that it would do way better than before. With all the indicators I was given, ESD was not going to be doing the same crappy 60m to 75m anw finishes it had done in past sets, it would be able to do 100m+ this set with ease.

With that in mind, I made the comment about 'the same crappy netting'. I didn't mean to offend you, I genuinely believed that ESD was going to be doing much better this set than past sets.

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:21:55

Pretty sure highrock's a dude..
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Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:21:59

You shouldn't have wasted so many words, Rockman. You're a fluff and an idiot and I already told you that our dialogue is finished.

I don't like you and I think you're one of the bigger jerkoffs I've ever had the displeasure of knowing in this game. Now shut up and crawl back into whatever worm hole you came out of.

Ad Hominem? Yes. And well-deserved, IMO. see ya, cupcake. :)

CX LaE Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:24:08

DeDLy -- I'm an FFAer, not a 1aer and I play in Mercs. Rockman plays both and is ex-LaE like I am. The rest are primarily 1aers.
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Rockman Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:25:36

Originally posted by Havoc:
Pretty sure highrock's a dude..


I thought highrock was viola from MD? OH well, change my words to 'he' then.

Dragon - this all happened because you lied on FFAT about how good ESD was going to be.

Azz Kikr Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:27:14

watch your mouth cx, i'm an ffa'er too :P
i'd call enshula an ffa'er as well. he's been in ffa as long as i have been.

Edited By: Azz Kikr on Jul 26th 2011, 20:30:35
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CX LaE Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 20:34:28

Yeah but you're a n00b, Azz. :P
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Havoc Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:05:17

Jesus, no you're right Rockman she is viola. I played with him, er her.. for the past like year or so and always just assumed they were a guy from how she posted heh..
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Rockman Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:08:44

Originally posted by Havoc:
Jesus, no you're right Rockman she is viola. I played with him, er her.. for the past like year or so and always just assumed they were a guy from how she posted heh..


OMG Havoc was wrong and Rockman was right. Now he's gonna have to start calling me names!

Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:09:45

Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by Havoc:
Pretty sure highrock's a dude..


I thought highrock was viola from MD? OH well, change my words to 'he' then.

Dragon - this all happened because you lied on FFAT about how good ESD was going to be.


Yeah. I "lied". *rolls eyes* I made an uneducated GUESS in the spirit of FUN between myself and my old acquaintace Azz. Some good old fashioned friendly fluff talking. You obviously haven't the required social skills to recognize that. Of COURSE I tweaked Mercs. They're my ally and I gave Azz a pact without a question.

Now go fluff yourself and leave me be. Kthxbye.

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:14:31

lol damn what's up with the infighting? FFA is way to chill to let this get so serious bros!


and horrri sheeeaaaat... Rockman is one pretentious sob :P

i loooooooove being a fluffty netter, don't get me wrong... but this vainglorious cat is all up in the sauuuuuuce. if you catch the drift of his posts (i read em all, no joke!) you'll see he presumes to single-handedly help us change our arrogant and ignorant and methodically fluff ways! allow our Lord Rockman to establish the Church of Rock and teach us how to net :)

and i have to bring up the obvious question... who said FFAers give a fluff about 1Aers looking down on us? :P FFAers run 15 (now 16) countries in the hopes that they can enjoy themselves, war or net, and feel good amongst our kind. because don't make the 1Aer-syndrome mistake... things will never be here as they are in your server. i dislike folks like primeval, m0bzta, and donny... but i figure many may feel the same (I'd be as ostentatious as Rockman to presume I have "the word of the many" seeping from my mouth) in that I'd rather play with them any day than play under a 1A tag seriously lol. that's why i roll with NA... they are just as chill as ever and don't mind you not taking too much interest.
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Rockman Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:22:03

Originally posted by Dragon:
Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by Havoc:
Pretty sure highrock's a dude..


I thought highrock was viola from MD? OH well, change my words to 'he' then.

Dragon - this all happened because you lied on FFAT about how good ESD was going to be.


Yeah. I "lied". *rolls eyes* I made an uneducated GUESS in the spirit of FUN between myself and my old acquaintace Azz. Some good old fashioned friendly fluff talking. You obviously haven't the required social skills to recognize that. Of COURSE I tweaked Mercs. They're my ally and I gave Azz a pact without a question.

Now go fluff yourself and leave me be. Kthxbye.



And when I said
Originally posted by Rockman:
Please tell me PANLV and ESD stepped up their game and didn't do the same crappy netting FFA is used to. I told em to bring it...


That was also friendly trash talking. PAN & TKO knew that. They had the social skills to recognize that.

Saying that you're gonna have a guy getting 140m to 160m networth per country, I took that as trash talking, but I didn't expect you to be blatantly "stretching the truth" or whatever you want to call it. When I said we were fairly confident that we were gonna break the anw record, that was trash talking, but it was also truthful. When Tin Man said he had 1.4 billion bushels on a country, that was trash talking, but I also assumed that it was true.

In the social skills I've learned, you still tell the truth when you trash talk.

Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:25:05

No, when FRIENDS talk fluff, that's PRECISELY what it is. fluff talk. The exaggeration is part of the fun.

Do NOT try to blame your social dysfunction and ineptitude on me. That's how wife beaters operate. fluff you and go away.

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:27:33

Originally posted by jagernacht:
lol damn what's up with the infighting? FFA is way to chill to let this get so serious bros!


and horrri sheeeaaaat... Rockman is one pretentious sob :P

i loooooooove being a fluffty netter, don't get me wrong... but this vainglorious cat is all up in the sauuuuuuce. if you catch the drift of his posts (i read em all, no joke!) you'll see he presumes to single-handedly help us change our arrogant and ignorant and methodically fluff ways! allow our Lord Rockman to establish the Church of Rock and teach us how to net :)

and i have to bring up the obvious question... who said FFAers give a fluff about 1Aers looking down on us? :P FFAers run 15 (now 16) countries in the hopes that they can enjoy themselves, war or net, and feel good amongst our kind. because don't make the 1Aer-syndrome mistake... things will never be here as they are in your server. i dislike folks like primeval, m0bzta, and donny... but i figure many may feel the same (I'd be as ostentatious as Rockman to presume I have "the word of the many" seeping from my mouth) in that I'd rather play with them any day than play under a 1A tag seriously lol. that's why i roll with NA... they are just as chill as ever and don't mind you not taking too much interest.


I screw around on 1a and don't take it seriously. I don't mind it when people insult my netting there. There's nothing wrong with not playing seriously and just taking it easy. There's nothing wrong with FFAers doing that.

You can ask anyone in LaF about whether or not I take 1A seriously. I played TMBR in 1a last set, thats how little I care about the server. I screw around probably as much as anyone on the alliance server. But I don't get offended if someone calls me out on not playing seriously.

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:29:28

Originally posted by Dragon:
No, when FRIENDS talk fluff, that's PRECISELY what it is. fluff talk. The exaggeration is part of the fun.

Do NOT try to blame your social dysfunction and ineptitude on me. That's how wife beaters operate. fluff you and go away.


I roll with a different group of friends than you. Honesty is far more valuable among my group of friends than it is among yours.

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:30:45

i dont think Mercs will win TNW this set
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Dragon Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:31:04

Honesty.... Right. I'm happy for you and your group of (imaginary) friends. Have a nice day, Abe. :)

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Jul 26th 2011, 21:33:31

Originally posted by Dragon:
Honesty.... Right. I'm happy for you and your group of (imaginary) friends. Have a nice day, Abe. :)


Actually, I was telling the truth when I said that honesty was valuable among my friends. I wasn't 'exaggerating' about my friends. Although I guess in your crew, you would assume that when I talk about my friends, anything I say would be an 'exaggeration'.