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Ozzite

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Jul 25th 2011, 7:24:18

Originally posted by Rockman:

Originally posted by Dragon:

Top 10? 350m
Top 25? 200m
Top 50? 150m
Top100? 100m

Is that for Mercs, or for all of FFA?

Such a prick Rockman :-P

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KeTcHuP

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Jul 25th 2011, 8:02:15

TKO shall win ANW!

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Havoc

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Jul 25th 2011, 12:53:48

I'd say at least 150m for t100

Havoc
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Twain

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Jul 25th 2011, 14:46:13

Last set, t100 was 123M, which was the highest ever cut-off.

We had PAN, TKO and NBK, three of the largest clans on the server, all netgaining, and ESD/GDI was around as well.

This set, PAN, Mercs, ESD and SF seem to be the main netgaining clans, with SF obviously having a setback due to their early war.

Due to the quality of the new clans, and the fact that ESD has stepped their game up this set, I agree it might actually be higher than it was last set, but I believe it will only be marginally higher.

I'd go 130M top 100
175M top 50
225M top 25
425M top 10

There's my guesses.

braden

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Jul 25th 2011, 14:52:54

well i guess i'll be lucky to have one country in the top 100.. and at that i'm seriously hoping top ten

Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 14:59:58

Originally posted by Twain:

Last set there was a record 30 countries above 200 million networth. Newworld and I will combine to break that record just between the two of us.

Please tell me PANLV and ESD stepped up their game and didn't do the same crappy netting FFA is used to. I told em to bring it...

Havoc

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Jul 25th 2011, 15:07:18

I should have 10 over 200m as well so that's pushing the t50 to 200m+ already..

Havoc
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Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 16:41:15

Originally posted by Rockman:

Please tell me PANLV and ESD stepped up their game and didn't do the same crappy netting FFA is used to. I told em to bring it...

I'm a little confused here... What exactly are you saying? Look at our NW (and we haven't really jumped yet), and look at our acres (we haven't hardly self-farmed at all and nowhere near like Mercs and PAN for example).

ESD doesn't NEED to "step up". I challenge this entire damned server to not self farm and play like ESD does set in and set out. THEN we'll see who's who. Neither you nor anyone could top ESD in a fair fight. You don't know how.

Kill4Free

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Jul 25th 2011, 16:51:22

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Rockman:

Please tell me PANLV and ESD stepped up their game and didn't do the same crappy netting FFA is used to. I told em to bring it...

I second this, any netting clan that supports not self farming, gets my full support!

So many ways to die, only one way to live...
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Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 16:55:52

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Rockman:

Please tell me PANLV and ESD stepped up their game and didn't do the same crappy netting FFA is used to. I told em to bring it...

round 3 66m anw
round 4 51m anw
round 7 66m anw
round 8 76m anw

rounds 3,4,7 are ESD tag
round 8 is GDI tag. I'm not sure what tag you used, if you played, during rounds 1,2,5, or 6. You're currently at 60m anw. Are you saying that you don't think Mercs can reach 75m anw without self-farming? Are you delusional?

You guys haven't self-farmed, but its not against the rules. Why play with one hand tied behind your back? If Mercs decided to not use spies on war countries, would we be right in telling other people that they can't war as good as us, they just need to fight on our level?

No one in the previous 8 rounds has netgained the way Mercs has this set. Its not even close. And its really easy to get 75m anw, which is the best you've been able to put up. Our all-explore countries will easily top 75m anw.

SwedishViper

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:16:02

No to everything you just said

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Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:19:34

Originally posted by Rockman:

No one in the previous 8 rounds has netgained the way Mercs has this set. Its not even close. And its really easy to get 75m anw, which is the best you've been able to put up. Our all-explore countries will easily top 75m anw.

I understand that you're a legend in your own mind, Rockman. We'll see if Mercs "has netgained like nobody else" at the end of the set.

As Enshula said, the ending ANW will describe the top to bottom condition of every clan ad if ESD is even close in ANW to you self-farmers, I'd be embarrassed if I were you.

Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:25:44

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Rockman:

Tin Man has spied on some of my countries. Ask him if they're almost done jumping, or if they've barely started.

Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:28:49

I know what he's spied and not spied. We talk. And where would you be if you didn't self farm?

You can't sit here and expect to sell me this bill of fare that despite all the self farming and bloating that it's linear in nature.

No matter. Enjoy your reset. You da man.

Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:31:30

Originally posted by Dragon:

Where would I be if I didn't self-farm? Around 120m anw probably.

Juusto

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:41:29

*starts making popcorn

FFA: PANLV
MSN:

Azz Kikr

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:42:50

why are you making popcom?

:D

Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:45:43

Originally posted by Juusto:

*starts making popcorn

Don't make too much. And I like mine with extra butter, btw... I'm pretty much done. Said all I have to say. :)

Havoc

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:48:31

n00bs

Havoc
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Azz Kikr

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:49:08

actually, i've been missing WuWho brand Donuts recently. need to find my stash of em.

Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:51:05

DOnuts? Krispy Kreme FTW!

How the fluff do you put up with a fluff like Rockman?

Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 18:52:36

Originally posted by Dragon:

DOnuts? Krispy Kreme FTW!

How the fluff do you put up with a fluff like Rockman?

I verbally abuse him. And he likes it. But he gives it right back to me when I deserve it.

Dragon

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Jul 25th 2011, 19:04:41

Originally posted by Rockman:

I verbally abuse him. And he likes it. But he gives it right back to me when I deserve it.

I almost like you.

Azz Kikr

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:01:01

Originally posted by Dragon:

DOnuts? Krispy Kreme FTW!

How the fluff do you put up with a fluff like Rockman?

honestly? because he's a loudmouthed jackass that makes my sarcasm seem friendly ;) a good foil to my public image.

and yes he verbally abuses me. and yes i like it. because when he screws up, it makes things that much sweeter. "rockman is an idiot" has been in our irc channel topic for the last week or two.

CX LaE

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:05:45

hahahahaha. I like this thread.

*is all-xing*
*will end w/ ~105m ANW*

Crappy set for farmers. :(

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Since 1999

Azz Kikr

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:10:38

so many excuses cx :p

CX LaE

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:13:15

Blah blah blah, Azz. :P Can't compare all-x and landtrading. Pretty sure I have the highest-ranked all-x countries that haven't been FAd like mad. :P

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Chaoswind

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:14:18

yeah, farmer sucked balls

and I was 90% farmer :/

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Rockman

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:14:43

Originally posted by Azz Kikr:

so many excuses cx :p

Well, he didn't blame me. But he should have. I didn't give him the advice to play something other than farmers, I told him to experiment with the luck bonus, I told him when to switch from rep to fascist, and when to switch from fascist to theocracy, and I helped crash the food market right before he was going to destock.

Some of the advice was good, but not all of it.

CX LaE

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Jul 25th 2011, 20:17:08

Shoulda cashed w/ the luck bonus instead. Would probably be 20% higher in TNW.

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Twain

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Jul 26th 2011, 0:16:35

Originally posted by Azz Kikr:

Originally posted by Dragon:

DOnuts? Krispy Kreme FTW!

How the fluff do you put up with a fluff like Rockman?

Ha! Well played, sir.

Bigwiggle

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Jul 26th 2011, 0:38:03

t100 will be 170mil cutoff I'm guessing, maybe higher.

I couldn't play a full netting set in FFA all-x, too boring. But it's not too hard to finish 120mil average all-x.

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KeTcHuP

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Jul 26th 2011, 5:14:23

Dragon- If anything all-x takes away skill more then anything. How does taking away a variable show whos better? THe more variables the more skill involved.

Also all of ESDs ANW for a all-x clan is not impressive at all. 60m NW for a all-x is embarassing, you really shouldnt pretend its anything worthwhile.

Ketchup the Thoughtful Suicidier

Twain

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Jul 30th 2011, 13:17:23

Originally posted by Rockman:

160m for top 100
240m for top 50
300m for top 25
450m for top 10

just rough estimates

Actual cutoffs:

T10: 444m
T25: 278m
T50: 236m
T100: 157m

I hate to feed Rockman's ego, but he seems to have had the closest guesstimates. And besides, that might just stir up another fluffstorm and make FFAT amusing during the dead period this weekend. ;)

TROLL AWAY!

enshula

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Jul 30th 2011, 13:23:51

the question is how much less correct would he have been if he hadnt been killed or did he actually predict his own doom :P

Twain

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Jul 30th 2011, 13:49:05

ha! very good point!

Ozzite

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Jul 30th 2011, 15:14:49

Originally posted by enshula:

the question is how much less correct would he have been if he hadnt been killed or did he actually predict his own doom :P

!!!! hahaha

Ah, mercury. Sweetest of the transition metals.

Rockman

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Jul 30th 2011, 18:33:38

If I hadn't been killed, I would not have had a top 10 country, thus the cutoff would have been 439.2m
I would have had 8 top 25's instead of 2, so the cutoff would have been 301.7m
I would have had 16 top 50's instead of 2, so the cutoff would have been 256.2m
I would have had 16 top 100's instead of 6, so the cutoff would have been 164m

Twain

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Jul 30th 2011, 19:28:11

So you boosted one up into the t10 since you lost some? Otherwise, it'd still have been 444m....

Dragon

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Jul 30th 2011, 20:42:46

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

Actually, we ended up over $80m ANW.Not $60m, Ketch. Maybe not UBER,but for an all-x Gang with guys just coming back to the game, I think that was decent.

I'll tell YOU the same thing I told Dic......err....ROckman. COme play straight up AE for a set if you wanna compare apples to apples.

Most likely, in the October set, unless the guys object, Imma cut loose the tractors and let them self farm as they wish just to see how we stack up against you guys that can't seem to make do with what you have WITHOUT self farming. But don't sit here all arrogant and fluff as a shameless self-farmer and bust MY balls because youthink our NW is "inferior".

Like I said. Man up and show me some skillz without all that stuff. Best way to do that so I can verify you're not getting outside help is to join ESD because I see every FA action taken in the clan.

You got balls or not, Ketch? I'm thinkin' you don't, but.....

KeTcHuP

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Jul 30th 2011, 20:47:56

Last set i didnt self farm, lost a few coutnries to suiciders, and had about 128m ave net.

Ketchup the Thoughtful Suicidier

Dragon

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Jul 30th 2011, 20:51:05

I REALLY don't wanna argue with you cause I like you but you didn't lose countries to suiciders because you were AE. You were likely grabbing like an idiot. That COUNTS, Jeff. In order for you (or anyone else) to show your 'superiority", we have to be playing on the same field. You know that.

KeTcHuP

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Jul 30th 2011, 20:55:30

Im including my restarts in my ave net. Including my restarts, and all that, without self farming, i was around 128m ave net. How is that not a level playing field?

Is grabbing not a level playing field? Do we need to go completely all-x? So we must fully run your style to be able to compare?

Ketchup the Thoughtful Suicidier