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Feb 28th 2019, 4:24:04

LOL
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Feb 28th 2019, 4:29:05

I still don't see how paying a pornstar should be grounds for impeachment, but a slush fund to keep interns and secretaries quiet is ok.
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Feb 28th 2019, 4:39:56

Originally posted by The_Hawk:
I still don't see how paying a pornstar should be grounds for impeachment, but a slush fund to keep interns and secretaries quiet is ok.


Did they ever release the full details on everyone implicated in that?

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Feb 28th 2019, 4:40:06

They're going to do anything to get rid of Trump.
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Feb 28th 2019, 5:03:35

I dont see how felonies by anyone shouldn't be grounds for impeachment

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Feb 28th 2019, 6:02:23

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I dont see how felonies by anyone shouldn't be grounds for impeachment


They have to prove it, he's not Hillary so if proven then he's fluffed, you need to be a Democrat in order to get away with fluff.
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Feb 28th 2019, 7:37:28

I find it funny that the left is so desperate for Trump's head, that they put all their eggs in the basket of a felon that was convicted for lying to.... drum roll please..... Congress....rich LOL
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Feb 28th 2019, 9:49:36

Ray Charles could have seen collusion.

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Feb 28th 2019, 19:55:59

Sheeple see what they tell them to.
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Feb 28th 2019, 20:46:11

I mean. In terms of the cases going thru the southern district of New York, there seems to be a pretty big pattern of tax fraud and emoluments. The only real doozy from Cohen was that check if it is indeed what he says it is...not really the best dude to ask tho.

Another interesting thing was him saying that Trump is actually NOT under audit. That's a very provable lie and it's as simple as subpoenaing Trump's tax returns, which now the house will have grounds for. Trump's whole excuse for not releasing his returns (as every previous president has done) was that he said he couldnt because he was under audit. Was also a question on his written answers to Mueller. Apparently that was Donald Trump committing an extremely basic form of perjury, but also lying to the American people to shield himself from a likely tax fraud investigation or audit. I think we all remember that lie and I think we all remember him saying it to Congress. That in and of itself is the basic reason Clinton was impeached, lying to Congress. And frankly makes Cohen no worse than trump himself. It's not a good look. Especially telling the same lie to federal prosecutors. That's certainly grounds for impeachment if his tax returns are subpoenaed and hes found to not be under audit. That's plenty enough for Republicans fo bring impeachment charges against Clinton, and all that is before whatever tax crimes he's hiding.

Not collusion at all, but definitely stuff previous presidents would have gotten at least an impeachment hearing about.

For a little historical perspective, Nixon was two years into the Watergate scandal and people mostly knew he had committed process crimes like obstruction when he had his reelection. He won 49 of the 50 states in the largest electoral romping of all time.

Clinton was post impeachment in his 2nd election and won a larger share of the electoral college because his impeachment hearing was also for process crimes.

This tax return perjury business is USUALLY considered grounds for impeachment, would never get 2/3 in the Senate, and would likely help a 2020 reelection for him. That said, when these crimes are found, typically an impeachment hearing follows. That's pretty standard. Usually government decides the people have a right to know everything. And then we get to hear about Clinton Sharpie-blasting an intern. It's fun times.

The dems will certainly need more stuff to sway anybody, but historically they'd be the first Congress not to bring impeachment proceedings against a president for process crimes. If I were on the right and thought this was all the crimes I'd want them to do it. It should help the election tbh

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Feb 28th 2019, 21:29:20

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I mean. In terms of the cases going thru the southern district of New York, there seems to be a pretty big pattern of tax fraud and emoluments. The only real doozy from Cohen was that check if it is indeed what he says it is...not really the best dude to ask tho.

Another interesting thing was him saying that Trump is actually NOT under audit. That's a very provable lie and it's as simple as subpoenaing Trump's tax returns, which now the house will have grounds for. Trump's whole excuse for not releasing his returns (as every previous president has done) was that he said he couldnt because he was under audit. Was also a question on his written answers to Mueller. Apparently that was Donald Trump committing an extremely basic form of perjury, but also lying to the American people to shield himself from a likely tax fraud investigation or audit. I think we all remember that lie and I think we all remember him saying it to Congress. That in and of itself is the basic reason Clinton was impeached, lying to Congress. And frankly makes Cohen no worse than trump himself. It's not a good look. Especially telling the same lie to federal prosecutors. That's certainly grounds for impeachment if his tax returns are subpoenaed and hes found to not be under audit. That's plenty enough for Republicans fo bring impeachment charges against Clinton, and all that is before whatever tax crimes he's hiding.

Not collusion at all, but definitely stuff previous presidents would have gotten at least an impeachment hearing about.

For a little historical perspective, Nixon was two years into the Watergate scandal and people mostly knew he had committed process crimes like obstruction when he had his reelection. He won 49 of the 50 states in the largest electoral romping of all time.

Clinton was post impeachment in his 2nd election and won a larger share of the electoral college because his impeachment hearing was also for process crimes.

This tax return perjury business is USUALLY considered grounds for impeachment, would never get 2/3 in the Senate, and would likely help a 2020 reelection for him. That said, when these crimes are found, typically an impeachment hearing follows. That's pretty standard. Usually government decides the people have a right to know everything. And then we get to hear about Clinton Sharpie-blasting an intern. It's fun times.

The dems will certainly need more stuff to sway anybody, but historically they'd be the first Congress not to bring impeachment proceedings against a president for process crimes. If I were on the right and thought this was all the crimes I'd want them to do it. It should help the election tbh


So to summarize all that, repubs where correct, it was a witch-hunt and if they didn't find what the DNC false dossier claimed, then hopefully dig up some dirt along the way....got it...how much did you idiots cost tax payers?

witch-huntDictionary result for witch-hunt
/ˈwiCH ˌhənt/Submit
nounHISTORICAL
a search for and subsequent persecution of a supposed witch.
INFORMAL
a campaign directed against a person or group holding unorthodox or unpopular views.
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Feb 28th 2019, 21:43:14

I've got a sneaking suspicion that lying about being under audit isnt his only crime tho. Maybe it's best to keep screaming "WITCH HUNT!" and tampering with witnesses on Twitter. Lol

Dude. The report isnt even out yet. Theoretically youd wait to call it that until you had any of the redacted information...it's all still black to the public as it is all still under investigation. Cohen even said he knew trump committed other crimes, but was not allowed to comment because they were under investigation by the SDNY. Seems everyone has their mind made up before they have any actual info.

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Feb 28th 2019, 21:45:53

Uh-huh LOL
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Feb 28th 2019, 22:47:51

The more interesting question is..... is Justin Trudeau forced to resign after the most recent allegation of corruption? He's already the first prime minister found to have broken federal ethics laws, and the latest in a line of scandals has seen his top advisor resign. Hmm

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Feb 28th 2019, 23:08:29

But, but, but...Canadians are nice people... surely he will apologise and move on....
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Mar 1st 2019, 0:18:34

Damn, looks like the situation at Kashmir is getting uglier by the minute, two big nuclear powers flexing muscles at each other...https://youtu.be/6jdEZewQYpA
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Mar 1st 2019, 3:37:43

Originally posted by sinistril:
The more interesting question is..... is Justin Trudeau forced to resign after the most recent allegation of corruption? He's already the first prime minister found to have broken federal ethics laws, and the latest in a line of scandals has seen his top advisor resign. Hmm


Lol. That sounds like a quaint beginning? You really gonna beat Trudeau up over 1 advisor? Trump has 4 of those that have gone to prison. That's just scratching the surface haha

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Mar 1st 2019, 3:47:35

1 advisor being ousted being a scandal is like soooo 2012

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Mar 1st 2019, 3:55:11

You are so this guy, Derrick...https://youtu.be/ymrBzgssSY8 through and through LOL

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Mar 1st 2019, 4:12:56

That's a joke btw sin. I am curious so I'll ask directly.

Canada scandal is like....and this is me asking not explaining because my family doesnt work for a party there. And yeah if you didnt know my family is involved to some degree in American politics. Sorry guys. Haha......

So it goes....there's like a money thing. I get all my Canadian politics from podcasts so heres my understanding:

Theres this company called SVC-Lavaland or something, lol, and they have a fluffload of workers in Quebec. I know quebec pretty much decides your elections....its our Ohio...and that's an important source of jobs there. Lavaland however faces fraud charges of like 50 billion or so tho (to like pre war Gaddafi "got his Weiner cut off in the road with a bayonet" Lybia). Trudeau pressured the attorney general to cut a deal with that company, and retaliated when she did not (I haven't heard how). Quebec was in an important election at that time and this also matters because that's why Trudeau was being a fluff.

On face value it sounds like an average Tuesday in American politics but I'll concede that I wouldnt take a position on it until I heard about his retaliation, and what direct efforts he had lobbying on behalf of Lybia. That's super important because if he is a compromised foreign agent, you're in bad shape. It seems about as flimsy as Russian collusion in America but both could result in EPIC RIGMAROLE!!!!

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Mar 1st 2019, 4:19:55

This would actually be a fun one to discuss with you, koh, because I doubt either of us know their politics enough to give a damn.

After my description of Eh?gate how do you feel? I would say on face value it seems roughly as flimsy as russiagate in US. Trump pressured AG's and fluff. I didnt even get mad. He appointed them lol.

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Mar 1st 2019, 4:29:00

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
This would actually be a fun one to discuss with you, koh, because I doubt either of us know their politics enough to give a damn.

After my description of Eh?gate how do you feel? I would say on face value it seems roughly as flimsy as russiagate in US. Trump pressured AG's and fluff. I didnt even get mad. He appointed them lol.


I have no doubt that he's got allegations that need addressed, but I rather wait and see what happens, everyone is entitled to benefit of the doubt, fluff I gave it to Bill when he was accused of getting a blowjob in the white house....not for a minute I believed it LOL, I wasn't politically as active as now but I did follow politics, Bill shouldn't of lied, he should have just said "hey you know what, it happened, it was consensual, I apologized. That's all.
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Mar 1st 2019, 4:44:08

I mean, he has already broken ethics laws (not allegedly like the Trump stuff). His and his administrations scandal list is actually very, very long. Hell, there is even a Trudeau Foundation that accepts Chinese donations. Nepotism is the darndest thing.

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Mar 1st 2019, 4:47:45

I am glad you finally admitted the Russia thing is flimsy tho

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:08:14

I mean, like I said two pages ago, so far what we know is Manafort (an unregistered lobbyist for pro-Russia ukraine) shared polling data with konstantin Klimnick, trump provided Oleg Daripaska with sanctions relief in exchange for contributions to Trump org (no worse than what any other president does with big tobacco frankly but it does happen to be a Russian oligarch), and Roger Stone was in contact with Guccifer 2.0 by way of Wikileaks to acquire the hacked DNC emails.

In terms of Russian collusion I think if that's the only arguement, it's flimsy as hell. To me the emoluments and tax fraud and trump hotel/golf course stuff provides a bigger case for trump being a criminal, but again, so much has been redacted in these filings because it's part of an ongoing investigation. Assuming there is actually something behind those black boxes, then there is more information coming. Based purely on what we have now, I would say he coopted with foreign officials for a variety of reasons but to say the election was a result of collusion is a stretch at least, at worst it's common campaign behavior.

Again, I would wait for the final blast of info from Mueller and the SDNY because I dont think we know the half of it, but as it stands, it's an extremely flimsy case for collusion. I'd assume those black boxes have more damning info behind them but plainly we just won't know until the investigation completes.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:15:49

I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:22:13

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).


So you won't have a problem if George Soros pulls his support for the DNC and stops financing groups like move on dot org and black lives matter...to name a few?
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Mar 1st 2019, 17:30:30

In short, I've never once said I believe that Donald Trump conspired with the Russian government to undermine the election. When I reference trump being a criminal you'll see I've repeatedly referenced domestic things, (Epstein, acosta, trump hotel, golf course value inflation for tax evasion, etc). He's still a hardcore criminal and a habitual liar in my book (1 million dollar loan from papa lie becomes 460 million in Fred's money being laundered thru fake corporations to Donald to illegally avoid paying the inheritance tax, everywhere you look there's a crime and a lie to cover it), but I base those things on facts based out of domestic court filings. What we know from russiagate is what I posted and everything else is conjecture. Do I think it's a witch hunt? No. I think the special councils office is doing its job as a watchdog and I think the American people should know the result of that investigation WHEN IT COMPLETES. We aren't even supposed to know that Klimnick stuff but Manaforts lawyers dont know how to redact a pdf. We are intentionally not being told anything about that so I'll make my personal feelings known when we have the actual information.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:31:37

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).


So you won't have a problem if George Soros pulls his support for the DNC and stops financing groups like move on dot org and black lives matter...to name a few?


Lol speaking of flimsy arguments. I guess it would bother me as much as Russia pulling its funding and social media campaign for Blue Lives Matter. In fact less so because soros is legally registered as a lobbyist. Showing there is corrupt billionaires on both sides and money should be out of politics only helps make my point.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:36:43

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).


So you won't have a problem if George Soros pulls his support for the DNC and stops financing groups like move on dot org and black lives matter...to name a few?


Lol speaking of flimsy arguments. I guess it would bother me as much as Russia pulling its funding and social media campaign for Blue Lives Matter. In fact less so because soros is legally registered as a lobbyist. Showing there is corrupt billionaires on both sides and money should be out of politics only helps make my point.


It should be illegal for foreign entities to put money into our politicians campaigns in every way, shape and form, period.
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Mar 1st 2019, 17:38:39

The difference isnt like....that someone gave you money to try to get you to pass laws. That's completely legal here, always has been. If you are a guy from a foriegn countries' government lobbying on behalf of them, you are still allowed to do that in America, but you must register with FARA first.

Do I think that should stop? Yeah. Do I think superpacs are the devil? Absolutely. If I saw Soros today would I kick him in the nuts? You betcha.

He does lobby the legal way tho. Or at least, there's no legal proof that hes paying antifa to incite riots which a case could be made is disturbing the peace or inciting riots if some proof is found.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:40:53

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. The purpose is to facilitate "evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons."

fluffs been legal for like 80 years. Lol

That's what they got Manafort on originally was being a Ukrainian lobbyist who was not registered with FARA.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:47:55

Qatar unapologetically dumps a pile of money into our elections thru legally registered lobbyists. So does the UAE. You're totally allowed to be a Saudi prince and try to buy the election. You just have to inform the government you're doing it first lol.

I do completely agree tho. You're spot on.

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:56:30

That's why I should point out in my own argument of points for collusion that I'd say Oleg Daripaska was giving illegal campaign contributions lobbying on behalf of Russia for sanctions relief.

Why is that an illegal campaign contribution?

Because Russia is a foreign nation. Daripaska would have to register with FARA as a foreign agent in order to make campaign contributions. Otherwise the transaction itself is legal....which is kinda fluffin crazy but yeah.....

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Mar 1st 2019, 17:58:12

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
The difference isnt like....that someone gave you money to try to get you to pass laws. That's completely legal here, always has been. If you are a guy from a foriegn countries' government lobbying on behalf of them, you are still allowed to do that in America, but you must register with FARA first.

Do I think that should stop? Yeah. Do I think superpacs are the devil? Absolutely. If I saw Soros today would I kick him in the nuts? You betcha.

He does lobby the legal way tho. Or at least, there's no legal proof that hes paying antifa to incite riots which a case could be made is disturbing the peace or inciting riots if some proof is found.


I'm glad we agree on some things :-)
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Mar 1st 2019, 18:06:37

Yeah. We probably all believe that about every individual in national politics deserves a swift kick in the nuts Haha. Someone tell Andrew yang not to let the money change him. Lol (yes I know hes already rich. It's a joke)

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Mar 1st 2019, 18:55:37

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).


Well, as I said, Trudeau has already violated a federal ethics law. It's not an allegation. It was a different case involving a foreign 'lobbyist' that receives millions from the Canadian government. That said, this recent case is not really about Libya and not what people are upset about. It's complicated and there are other factors including what recently happened with the opposition party but long story short is lobbying and vote buying will likely be the central issue in the next Canadian election and Trudeau is unlikely to win a majority again

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Mar 1st 2019, 19:02:04

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I look at Trudeau similarly to trump, in that I'm curious if these foreign donations from lobbyists are genuinely having an effect on government. Until I see proof of that, I think it's a flimsy arguement to say these guys are compromised.

Like I said before, I'd be curious to know what effect that Libya lobbying had on the Trudeau administration and what length he was willing to go to protect that (for instance by retaliation on the AG).


So you won't have a problem if George Soros pulls his support for the DNC and stops financing groups like move on dot org and black lives matter...to name a few?


Lol speaking of flimsy arguments. I guess it would bother me as much as Russia pulling its funding and social media campaign for Blue Lives Matter. In fact less so because soros is legally registered as a lobbyist. Showing there is corrupt billionaires on both sides and money should be out of politics only helps make my point.


It should be illegal for foreign entities to put money into our politicians campaigns in every way, shape and form, period.


The big hole in that argument is there are multiple ways to put money into political campaigns. If you're a Republican, you should be pro-anyone putting money into campaigns. Do you think if you said Saudi Arabia can't put money into politics that they wouldn't influence US politics? Why do you think a Saudi prince has a huge investment in Twitter? Why do you think so many foreign companies have stakes in American media? Ban foreign donations and you'll still have foreign money in politics but it will only be swinging one way.

FYI, I agree with the nominal argument (though I think it's be hypocritical for Americans to ban foreign election meddling as America is traditionally the biggest election meddlers around), but actually getting it to work would be nigh impossible. What should be prevented is politicians taking personal gifts in exchange for political favors, which is what Trudeau was caught doing when he violated ethics laws.

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Mar 1st 2019, 22:48:01

Yeah, and is essentially what I'm getting at with Oleg Daripaska. I think that's something you could actually do something about. It's not grounds for impeachment in America or apparently Canada, but it's not a good look.

The blatant witness tampering on Twitter by trump raises alarms of more typical impeachment proceedings. One could bring a case that Cohen's father in law was threatened which is more in line with typical impeachment proceedings. Trudeau is up in 2020 correct? I'd be surprised to hear he gets elected again. It's been one controversy after another since he choked a fluff on the floor. Haha

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Mar 2nd 2019, 3:55:55

What I think will ultimately be a funny part of US politics, is that when all these cases resolve and all the information is out, Trump will be at a minimum guilty of lying to Congress. The hilarity starts when the Democrats know they dont have 18 Republican votes to win an impeachment, and know that going for impeachment will probably cost them votes in the 2020 general. The politically smart thing to do will be to win in 2020 and prosecute him after the fact.

However, not bringing impeachment because it is politically smart sets a precedent for how much a president can get away with in the eyes of a Democrat. Itll be fun to watch them have that internal dialogue and ultimately see if the level of crimes is high enough to make them go thru a futile fight that loses them votes. I'll totally be eating popcorn.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 2nd 2019, 4:02:53

One thing the left failed to recognize, is when you hit Trump, he hits back twice as hard and until the Dems and all their surrogates understand that...it'll keep on keeping on.
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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 6:42:36

Yeah but even historically when one side goes apefluff the other side benefits greatly. Impeachment is political suicide. It usually HUGELY benefits the sitting presidents party Haha. It's funny because the last two impeachment trials were actually centered around obstruction of justice and witness tampering. That's what both Nixon and Clinton were on trial for. Trump arguably tampers with witnesses and obstructs justice on Twitter on a weekly basis. Theres blatantly a case for it Haha. If you see an impeachment hearing full of fluff like that, the Republicans will sweep the entire midwest. People targeting trump is not a doomsday scenario for anyone. I do believe Trump will die in prison tho. He'll probably just buy whatever prison he is at and start Trump Prison Corp.

They will be the best prisons. Big, beautiful prisons. 'Uge walls.

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 3rd 2019, 6:46:09

Uge wall, like the one in Gina....let me tell ya.
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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 6:48:25

When Donald Trump finally says "I know more about prisons than anybody"

Lol

KoHeartsGPA

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Mar 3rd 2019, 6:50:36

LOL
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DerrickICN

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Mar 3rd 2019, 7:21:23

One of the bonus threads on some server has like 400 pages of empties. Lol

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Mar 3rd 2019, 7:42:50

Originally posted by The_Hawk:
Anyone who has held a clearance knows that Hilldog broke the law. Nothing will come of it though unlike the sailor on the sub.


Most true. I've had several clearances over my career both military and civilian, and I have never disclosed anything that was classified. However, what Hitlery did was WAY BEYOND just a leak. She was the secretary of state, and had many, many pieces of classified material go through that unsecure little email box of her idiot computer guy built in her basement. The thing that pissed me off the most about that is that the FBI has been running their own little program for a large part of the last decade called "Carnivore" that captures EVERY email sent in the US and archives it in a database. Since Hitlery's email server was in the United States using an IP Address provided by a US Provider, every email that went through that box was captured, and they claim that they need to have the box itself to get the information. That's pure bullfluff, they only need to query that enormous database of the FBI on field 23 looking for "Clintonemail.com" and they'd have them all.
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