Tech required to achieve a percent is relative to current acreage?

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It's also explicitly part of the GDI. I made the same mistakes my first few goes on Express.

Generally you should expect 1:1 retaliation if you hit a human. And massive irrational behavior every 5 attacks on humans you make in a set. (Even if you stick to a single tap, once one hits you hard, the rest might dogpile on top.)

There's simply too much easy eating with the bots. [/quote]

Oh you.
<3

It's a plague: http://i67.tinypic.com/14doj2t.jpg

How about that :-/

(Not much point in staying anonymous ;-))

I agree that Marshal's posts are not very helpful.

Here's some examples I bumped into recently:
http://m.earthempires.com/...-again-44736?t=1552426371

http://m.earthempires.com/...-on-pm-46548?t=1551584688

http://m.earthempires.com/...income-45355?t=1552231764

That last one really burned me, since the thread went back to having our last-poster-extraordinare as the last reply, ensuring no one would who might constructively contribute will stop by.

It's pretty irritating, but it's also a forum. So whatcha gonna do...

/me gets popcorn

You probably aren't in the GDI yet. Try going to Main Menu, then click on GDI in the lower left (mobile client)

After that try spending your bonus again.

In his defense, he's obsessively replying to all the fora whether or not he has a useful comment. (Makes the "I have a real question" threads not have an answer but look like it.)

I don't intend my position to be that at all.

In the first example, a certain amount of over-retaliation would spread the Outlaw disease. (Some applicable tropes could be: the Executioner also being a murderer, bad people are the only things that stop bad people, and so on.)

In the second example(pve), the situation can't arise at all.

I'd love to hear from anyone who has guesses to the formulas for PCI growth.

I observed a multiple turn " adoption time " on a bulk purchase of Business tech earlier today. (I moved the needle about 8% from 132 to 140)

Moderating/GMing is a hard job, but cooperation is either against the rules or it isn't. Just because a player is being a __subjective__ poop-beast by attacking humans doesn't mean that those who mete vigilante justice are in the right.

Relying on an in-game mob to break __documented__ rules when players break __undocumented__ rules is an untenable position.

If there is to be a rule that says "Players are not protected from dogpiling if they attack Human players more than once." Some kind of fix and/or documentation is needed. (There also needs to be a better definition of the "poop-beast" behavior, or else you end up with something like the definition of Obscenity.)

In code, a fix could be to label Bots and Humans as such, and then mark the poop-beast player (person who has breaks the "don't attack Humans 'too much' " rule) as an Outlaw of some kind. (Interesting thought about that approach: the vigilantes in this example also get flagged as Outlaws.)

Another fix in code could be to disallow pvp to create a pve/"netting" server.

Fixes outside of code probably involve more transparency to the deletion/banning process. This would let folks start to see precedence and help establish expectations and consequences.


TLDR; Do not claim in-game rule-violating conduct as valid corrective action for non-rule violating conduct. And, moderating is hard.

Thanks!

You can get folks to hit you back if you hit them, but usually that's a losing play.

A good method to find folks to hit you back is to attack dozens of players with SS.

Derp

That's normally what I do, I have no idea why it slipped my mind this time :-(

Minimaxxer inside me doesn't want to join until I have all the bonus points for freegdi

Oh, that's legit and inconvenient.

Dodging nation:nation DR and possibly wealth xferring feels like it's too far.

Yeah I didn't expect to be doing so well this set. But, I didn't really consider upsides to forgetting GDI (I should re-read the terms again.)

I'll raise a ticket to the mods in game if 118 attempts to suicide on me. Otherwise I already lost around 80 turns and about 200k nw to the kid's other shenanigans.

I misspoke. #14 ( https://www.eestats.com/express/country/14 )
Rage bombed.

Then this got created #118 ( https://www.eestats.com/express/country/118 ) and took a teensy jump in NW that feels like a wealth xfer.

No idea why the kid is losing their mind on me, but dodging to a new nation feels like dirty pool. I suspect that they want a fresh country:country DR to burn their turns on me.

Is self-deleting for a purpose like that against the rules?

Truth. I messed up before taking my first attack.

#14 rage bombed me then self deleted.

5 minutes later #115 was created

I bet this is related

I am so confused isn't Celphi celphi?

You people make no sense some days...

Yes, also #3 joining in on that fun.

I am not #85 or I would have figured out how to report.

https://www.eestats.com/express/country/75

Dogpiling/Teaming like that is OK according to the rules?

(Similar question for #3. Random retribution missiles only seemed to pop out when others dove on #85)

I know it's a late reply, but I did a bunch of fiddling with Mil Tech and food prices this set on Express.

The alpha server was perfect for letting me test "What Ifs" like that:

http://www.earthempires.com/alpha/main

Is this really a thing?

(Just had a spyop come back on a demo who's 95% IC.)

(I'm wondering about the breakpoints near the exploration breakpoints)

If you happen to know the low acreage formulas I'd be quite happy to know them.

That rule of thumb does seem to check out at big acreages.

I thought I saw someone say they sold grain on their PM for 36.

How did you do this? Was it a particular government *and* some kind of tech?

I'm all for being stupid with GS, but what prompted #23 to go bananas on #29?

I have no idea where they are, because Jets are less than Troops?! Heck Troops have an Asking price that my near-maxxed MBR can't beat.

Does anyone have the actual equations for this sitting around?

Are you #104?

Drill baby drill?

I assume I should have spent them explore+building?
(Not hitting bots?)

This. I made the mistake to try Oiling this set.

I have so many banked turns right now it hurts. I can't justify taking any of them at these prices/demands.

How many of you play with holding your turns back?

What's your motivation and how big of a turns budget do you reserve?

I had an awful delete experience last set, but still support them being trigger-happy with deletes.

(That said, I was in the wrong and don't know how/if the appeal process actually works. No one replied ;-) )

There's definitely too much collusion going on, and it's pretty hard to detect.

Does PM only grow when we are logged off?

Probably not, I'd need to know the breakpoints on a few things. Here is a poorly edited set of thoughts (our littlest kid keeps waking up and needing to be rocked, so hey free forum time!)

How much Tech does a Commie Indy want? Tech effectiveness per unit has DR at a fixed land size, and has pushback (moves us left on the curve) as land size scales.

We want to buy that much tech for as few turns as possible.

I assumed that Teching is the most efficient way to generate profit in the first few hundred turns. (No expeses/decay, highest price-per-unit, sufficient demand.). To me, that means starting Indy means I can secure less tech for myself. (And possibly less defense, if I had stupid amounts of Indy tech.)

So, how much profit over traditional Indy do we make per turn, and how much does it cost to switch?

In my case, I was at 4.5k labs ( not enough percent, I'm still new here ) with BPT of 55. I think my cost per building put the total cash required up to 100-125mil and 82 turns. (At the time I had 400mil or so cash on hand (over-selling the Tech, didn't know how little I needed.))

But, because I'm already up to my target BPT and cash, my buildup curve will be as good or better than the buildup at the start of the game.

At that point I would drop *all* the labs and bulk convert to a less self-sufficient build, assuming that I can secure the oil/food that was requires from the market.

For now, I'll simply assume the only long term cost is the 82 turns and the 120mil rebuild, and some amount of military that has little marginal value to me. (I make so much as Indy that I have to sell excess to keep expenses down.)

Actually, I'd be interested to discuss if starting as Commie Tech and finishing as Commie Indy is a reasonable idea.

I don't believe I "cashed" any turns, but I definitely sold off tech to finance a big purchase. Instead of just bulldozing all my land and rebuilding, I was thrust into getting a retal force ready. (The same one that hit me had also hit you.)

As for the "it never makes sense to punch upward," I'm not sure I agree. But hey, that's what the scoreboard is for next time :-)

Feeding on a soft target is legit. Knocking down a top 10 a few slots while I'm burning off turns to try gaining size seems smart. (After all, I correctly identified a max-nw min-defense target.) I would, and will, do that again.

Grats on the high finish. Your asterisk on it is even bigger, though.
Had I not broken the rules, I would have "made you waste your turns" by feeding on you again later because you didn't "invest enough money in defense."

Getting deleted (without explanation) was really distasteful, but I think you did the right thing there. The request to collaborate is bad, so good report. (I should've reported the middle one that, without my request, sent me spy details on other targets. That's the type of stuff that put me on to "the mods are asleep" behavior.)

From reading this thread, it sounds like I should silently wait for you to get into it with someone else then join in on the GS if we've both been struck by someone. (See the posts above.)

I was excited to try out a pure tmbr on one of these sets :-(

Thanks for the heads up folks.

That's some fluff right there. I pretty sure I was just deleted for trying to negotiate in Messaging. Solo means solo.




This. I'm a returning player who didn't play much wayyyyyyy back. I was having an interesting experience trying out Messages on my best set yet. Now I've been zapped.

Explaining away a retal, or trying to communicate/discuss when more than one happens is a complete edge-case.

It appears that people here already know how to identify the folks they want to communicate with on a regular basis, and there's forums for everything they need

Is it collusion to negotiate and/or coerce other nations using only in-game messaging?

I can provide examples after the set if it helps.

Shhhhhh. Even as a Commie I was able to enjoy reselling that stuff.