I could only see once alliance in this position, having a 10% member advantage, being able to absorb an FS, this late in the set, from netting mode and being able to turn it around and win, and that is SoF, and again, it would have to be them on their own, not SOF at 30/40 members + another alliance.

1) Can you give us your pacts list, so next time we will know who to FS with EVO?
2) Well, it means you are playing this game wrong. This is war game, so why you play it like simcity? Its almost as stupid as SoL with their "we are warring alliance, so we dont need to know how to netgain".

As for DU, we was always up for a good fight, but somehow we never was in war with our sized alliance (i belive its because our size alliances was scared of us), most time we warred alliances like SoL and Laf, who was like 5x more than DU:) The most even fight i can remember is when Exodus+Rage killed us, then LCN killed almost all Exodus, we made peace with Rage and it was almost same sized war DU-Exodus (they still had a bit advantage, but still). So, you guys now have alot better position than DU ever.


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Why LCN? I think they prefer good fight instead of wasting reset after imag. As for me, I apologize to the LCN, if I'm wrong. I never wanted to hurt you.

And yes, EVO&LCN are not well prepared, but EVO has a HUGE stock, this will allow you to break any target. And you guys in EVO did a well job back to june. LCN is good warriors also. On other hand RIVAL has more than 20 members, who has very small experience in EE, and 14 countries with number over 700 (=lost turns). And its 61v68 (11% more members). So, stop crying and orgineze killruns with LCN. If you will fight back, you have not bad chances to win.

But blindsiding an overwhelmed netter two weeks before the end of the set? Rival, WTF are you thinking?

But blindsiding an overwhelmed netter two weeks before the end of the set? Rival, WTF are you thinking?

Ok, i did the count.
By spy ops EVO had 1016 turns on hand + 743 stored for 32 countries (avg 55 turns). + the turns they will have at login.
By spy ops LCN had 303 turns on hand + 634 stored for 16 countries (avg 57 turns). + the turns they will have at login.

Still think about avg 100 turns on hand at login.
Seems not so bad as it can be:) But indeed they wasnt well prepared.

Dude, your math just doesn't add up. We were NOT averaging 100 turns on hand when you FSed. That is blatantly false. We had been on a 40 turn yellow alert for like 3 fkn weeks and people(myself included) weren't following it. There is absolutely no way we had as many turns as you claim we did.

But blindsiding an overwhelmed netter two weeks before the end of the set? Rival, WTF are you thinking?

Perhaps maintaining SDI and a decent level of spies/troops, and even keeping a few turns onhand, ought to be considered part of doing business on the server. An overhead cost.

There's sometimes a mentality that people expect to play a wargame with no threat of war. They convince themselves that saving the overhead expenses is not a roll of the dice, a high-risk chance, and then are shocked when somebody exploits their low defences, as though on this server there is a mod given right to stand exempt from warfare (unless it involves farming smaller tags/the untagged).

Now I hate random strikes as much as anybody. I do not know if this attack was random, if Rival had made indications beforehand that they would gun for EVO or LCN. I do not think people should do this. Escalate a legit grievance and make a big deal to build up to war. At least have something of a reason.

Dude, your math just doesn't add up. We were NOT averaging 100 turns on hand when you FSed. That is blatantly false. We had been on a 40 turn yellow alert for like 3 fkn weeks and people(myself included) weren't following it. There is absolutely no way we had as many turns as you claim we did.

you have wasted countless hours from evo members, and will have caused SEVERAL members to fluffing quit the game due to your bullfluff antics. When I say quit the game i mean quit.

Duna - As long as you blame it on Trife in some way for declaring on LCN.

I think the rest of us here at LCN would consider that a sufficient excuse.

Duna - As long as you blame it on Trife in some way for declaring on LCN.

I think the rest of us here at LCN would consider that a sufficient excuse.