PAY ME RIVAL!!!

:)

I don't think any alliance is to blame for somehow knocking the balance of strats on the server out of whack. Everybody's pretty uniform as to what you'd expect from them, and the landtraders are what they are. Expected, given the success we've seen from them. Kind of monkey see, monkey do.

A smart techer could still beat them all, but maybe not this reset, with this food market.

Unless they're *really* smart.

Doable, but not without exhaustive effort.

A landtrading casher isn't feasible this reset due to a total lack of landtrading cashers.

I hope you bought your tech already.

The game isn't broken, just different.

Adapt
React
Readapt
Act

Figure it out or fall in at the back of the line with the bottomfeeders and the commie indies.

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HAH!

you'll all be AB FSing by the year 2025, that's all I know.

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ha, yeah -- how many GS kill a 0 troop country anyway?

Could 70 GS and 50 SRs do it if guy had 0 spies or troops?

Might have to stick to AB FS FTW tho, it's kinda my thing.

AB FS FTW!!!

floopis

also, thank you to whoever suicded me -- I'm sure I'd have been FA'd out of #1 while I was watching the Super Bowl.

And, whoever scheduled the set to end DURING the super bowl...you have failed.

:)

I'm suprised #1 isn't higher. I was looking at 275 mil. Next time, I think I'll wait to resell the SDI tech maybe :)

Congrats Osso.

Actually, if I'm in the top 10, then the top 10 sucks :)

This is going to be, realistically, the weakest top 10 ever. Congratulations to those who I've already given them to :)

If you didn't hit 300 mil this set, you don't deserve to say you won anything :)

i've been called a sand monkey a time or two.

Huh?

I'm fairly certain I'm going to be suicided going into EVERY reset LOL. Good luck finding somewhere to plant your seed, though :)

11TH PLACE IS MINE FTW

No, if we did that we'd probably end up looking like LCN does now.

Another 2 million tech points would raise SDI from 50% to almost 90%.

At 90%, the guy gets maybe 6 of his NM/CM through. 6 successful NM/CM in this case destroys about 13-17k acres, if he's aiming for max damage. Enough to effectively sabotage someone's reset.

Of coruse, if you "only" have....say, 1.5 million SDI points and *not* 2.5 million -- your SDI will be 75-80%, meaning twice as many missiles get through.

It is what it is, it's always been that way. But you could easily blow $4-8 billion on SDI in any given set and still be liable to lose 15k acres if a guy's determined. If that's determined to be a problem by those who tweak the rules, so be it. If not, we're all still playing anyway, right? So let's shut up and deal with it until then, I guess.

I BLAME WARI

You can't stop progress. If a test run can net 280 mil, who knows what's possible if you try.

poo

Reasonably, no landgrabber who gave a schitt about "grabbing ethics" would LG a country of a strat not the same as his.

Granted, there's a lack of fat cashers this set.

I guess, to answer the question, it's definitely fluffish. Most people are though, so yeah.

lol

Are we just trying to define strategies here, or are we trying to make the argument that playing one way is somehow more "honorable" or somehow more legitimate than the other?

Is landtrading frowned upon because it was a game change implemented by someone other than THE GREAT MEHUL PATEL himself? If so, that's stupid.

True, nearly every time changes are implemented in the game, they're a bit overpowered. Ghost acres/landtrading may have been, and then it was somewhat nerfed. You can still do it well with some effort.

Is landtrading frowned upon because it "takes no skill"? You're right. Bottomfeeding takes no skill either. Camping news waiting for DRs to wear off isn't a skill, it's a bad habit.

The theocracy gov't was no different. It was created, it was overpowered, and then gov't bonuses were tweaked to create a bit of an even playing field.

We saw last reset -- admittedly in a great reset for techers -- what the ceiling was for a smart techer, and what it was for a landtrading farmer/casher. The landtraders got smoked. A few top 10s from the smart ones, but in the end there was no competition for top spots.

This reset, dirty landtraders might dominate the top 10, but probably only because the smart techers were warring. It is what it is.

I choose to discriminate against those who prefer the theocracy government.

You guys may think you're real cool with your 2012 landtrader hate, but honestly I wrote the book on closed-minded Earth:2025 purist-ness. I've detested you little maggots since 2001 or something.

You witches have been stealing all the top 10 spots from good, god fearing, law abiding, salt of the earth farmers for the better part of a decade now with your reselling shenanigans and miscellaneous market related tomfoolery.

From my point of view, the top 10 communists in the final rankings will constitute the actual top 10. All of us other blowhards are just vying for 11th place. Which, by the way, I won last reset. Victory is mine. Suck my balls, LCN. Glory to HAN. Notre Dame sucks.

I'm sorry, I have no morals.

Also, no scruples.

and Xin, you just won the thread.

Rockman -- good post, first bit of insight this thread has seen honestly.

Vic -- I choose not to acknowledge any members of GDI who finish in the top 10. To each his own.

'Tis much more honorable to be FA'd to a top 10 finish in the last 10 minutes of the reset than to commit heinous acts such as landtrading, right?

65k acre farmer, as a fasct with nax tech barely clears 30 mil per turn stocking.

CHAW

whoo

oh

Yes.

It was.

Paradigm needs to do a better job of handling it's business, at the end of the day.

Outrunning retals is very 2003, and rarely succeeds as intended. If someone succeeds in that way against us, it's our own damn fault.

(I'm pretty sure we can retal everything, though....just FYI everybody)

:)

It is what it is, it's all a matter of how quickly we all recognize it.

If you want to be smart and actually communicate with your target, perhaps that's where you cross over the red line to DIRTY LANDTRADER or whatever. Until then, you're just landgrabbing. Randomly. Of course, it's random.

I'm pretty sure the Texans are about to get beat down, too.

You guys keep dancing around semantics, ok?

Colts -4, Jets -2.5, Bears-1, Buccaneers-8, Bengals-3, Cardinals +11.5

A six team parlay pays 40 to one, so you're welcome.

:)

Requiem -- the thing is....

you're right.

the douche lives!

LaF already landtrades :)

If ten techers can hit 220, I'll tip my cap to them :) I'll admit I've never seen a market quite like this, this late.

It's easy to gain gobs of land. I guarantee you, the successful transformation of that land into a country capable of vying for a top 5 spot, unaided, is much more difficult than you know, unless you've gone through some trial and error where it's concerned.

It's as legitimate as any other strategy, and no cheaper than having a tech ally ring. I'll put you in contention for the top ten, just work with me. Those who need to know already do. But you won't landtrade yourself to a top 5 finish on your first try. Trust me.

You guys make it sound so easy :)

Anyone can trade land. It takes time to figure out how to parlay it into a dependable netting strategy. Ever try to max tech on 90k acres with Ag at $4100?

Innovation isn't dead, fortunately. But it'll be a long time before the average "landtrader" can compete, on average, with a reasonably smart techer/reseller.

The good news is you netters aren't all shackled to your bottomfeeding, your idling in IRC to hit a 700k NW 3k land guy exactly at 24h, and whatnot. I played the game that way for years, too. Ain't worth it.

You won't see 10 hit 220 mil.

IMO.

who cares, i need bonus points.

KEEP BOTTOMFEEDING WEAKLINGS

STOP TRYING TO IMPROVE GAMEPLAY WITH NEW, ORIGINAL, INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT WOULD GENUINELY MAKE IT BETTER, PLEASE.

jeez. Just let me camp news for 18 hours a day an bottomfeed until I'm 60 years old. CHANGE IS EVIL!

victory is mine!!!

Deci: you weren't the acting FA who internally landgrabbed the member, causing him to suicide on me, causing you to puss out on reps, causing you to FS us.

So I have no particular issue with you, just your spineless associates.