i had land grabbed him three times on two separate occasions early on in the set and apparently he spent the rest of his turns stockpiling so he could suicide on me more than two weeks later =(

i just got suicided on so my finish is screwed, gl all.

hey bulldawg!

let me know if you're having any problem accessing boxcar.

cya man was fun playin with ya.

and yes it has been a very enjoyable war, thank you to all who have taken part.

I lol'd

you guys have completely obliterated them with your FS. GG DBD?

it is what it is.

Ruthie, I do not act as if RD is the only clan that farms untaggeds. I am, however, saying RD is the only clan that takes it upon its self to "protect" the server and its players and then farms untaggeds, anyway.

what good guys and stewards of the Team Server:

<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 15A/17A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 18A/20A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 18A/20A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 13A/13A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 13A/13A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 13A/13A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- DEF HELD
<@ee> SS Mr Firebrick (#30) [ResDogs] --> Dolphin Reef (#130) [] -- 12A/12A

The problem with your argument there the assumption that what Pang envisioned for the server is "right".

The hard rules are in place, limit of 5 per tag, no tag jumping, etc, which limits who can ally to whom. So it is smaller teams with the opportunity to form coalitions.

MKR has not cross retalled since the x-retal war. We have crossed killed a few times when we were farmed by other alliances or had failures with FA.

MKR is happy to run its tags autonomously.

who cares about the spirit of the server or what the admins intended for the server to be. This server used to be 1A and there are a lot of residual alliances who played in 1A who were not happy about being kicked out of their home. We stayed here and continue to act as one entity. If Pang wanted a new server, he should have kept the old 1A and created Team on top of it. Then he would have a chance of creating a 5 man team server where people didn't group up.

speaking of which, I will be playing a demo clearer this set ;-)

can't wait to see what happens with the new private market destocking next set, lol

i have full military tech can only sell for $26/bushel on the private. Looks like a demo is clearing the $31 right now, hopefully he clears $32, too.

Clear those effing bushels at $31 and resell plz.

rofl! child labor FTW. Surprisingly accurate statements, Detmer.

No hard feelings here, if you're looking for a war you gotta find someone to war.

ZEN, mb contact me via PM?

what was up with the in-tag land kill btw, that was lol.

well clearly ZEN, your FA does nothing but provoke war. We aren't afraid of war and you certainly will not be able to use the threat of war to push us around, so game on, have fun.

no problem man, i'm just trying to stick up for my player. FTR it looked like it was about 8k acres vs 12k acres during most of the grabbing going on b/w your countries. My guess is he had a higher % jet production, we was more or less an all jetter, all he gained when he tagged up was DA strength which probably effectively doubled his break.

This wont happen again as our player is going to be tagged up with us next set. Just be careful of the untaggeds ;-)

BTW what happened to your possee of anti-cross retallers? Did they join RD?

Mr LC is correct, but FBI is the tag that brought the cross tag element into the situation. FBI had an issue with tag MKR that he was either too arrogant or too stupid to put to rest diplomatically. Instead he took a huge grab at tag MKR2, which was completely uninvolved in the situation. At that point FBI was put on farm/kill for both tags. ZEN, work on your diplomacy bro, I gave you every opportunity to make peace, even offered to accept your crappy missile retals but you pissed in my face.

Regardless the point is moot because the entire cross retal argument is dead now that RD has taken over the server and circumvented the entire policy with its 1:kill/cross tag killing policy.

As for Vic and xNEx, be a man bro, you got owned by one of our players who was playing as an untagged. Absolutely owned. Owned so badly you can't wrap your head around it. You think #114 received FA to hit you back but HE DID NOT. He just out played you, get over it, nobody FA'd him. You fought a fight you couldn't win. Thought you could farm an untagged but got owned, its okay, maybe you will learn something from it.

For the record, we have no problem with xNEx, We killed a country of yours last set because you were relentlessly farming us after we got mixed up with RD and were down for the count. Scavenging like a vulture if you will. You gave us no choice but to kill, I mean, the farming was incredulous and unrelenting.

All our other beef goes back to the cross retalling fluff, which, as I mentioned above, is moot now that RD has taken over the server.

What do you mean you retalled a guy in my other clan? We were owed no retals . That was an unprovoked hit. You are an idiot. If you think I give a flying fluff about winning #1 you are dead wrong. That seems to be your only leverage is threatening me with having to stop netting to put you retards in your place. Your clan sucks and your countries are weak.

Well then it appears there is no reasoning with you. I see this country has unloaded 6 more missiles on my player's country.

Aug 27/10 6:56:04 PM EM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) 10038 MU
Aug 27/10 6:55:17 PM NM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) 936 A
Aug 27/10 6:55:00 PM CM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) 16247 C/587 B
Aug 27/10 6:54:57 PM CM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) Defence Held
Aug 27/10 6:54:55 PM CM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) Defence Held
Aug 27/10 6:54:50 PM CM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) Defence Held

pm sent.

it is pretty basic, we accept 1:1 retals for single hits. We do accept missiles retals, but your player sent two missiles for only one attack, which is 2:1.

The excessive retal was dealt with by allowing my player 2:1 for the extra hit. This allowed my player to recuperate the acreage he lost due to the extra missile.

Obviously we are all allowed to set and play by our own rules, but we hold others to the same standard we hold ourselves and we believe our policies are reasonable.

Let's close this and you guys can focus on sticking it to the tags that are farming your more heavily.

Cheers.

I'm glad to see this is the way you handle FA. Our policies accept missiles retals and we would have moved on had it been one missiles, but it was not, it was two missiles for one LG. Our policy is 2:1 for the escalating retal.

This is closed on our end. If you want to keep harassing our players, go ahead, but we will continue to enforce our policies.

i'm just enforcing our normal retal policies.

Taking 2:1 for the escalating retals.

TY

Care to Explain?

Aug 25/10 7:50:15 PM NM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) 825 A
Aug 25/10 7:50:04 PM NM Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) 869 A
Aug 24/10 4:03:46 PM PS Ephesian Peloponnese (#54) (MKR) Death By SNUSNU (#112) (FBI) 185 A (+299 A)

Your guy destroyed 1700 acres off a 185A land grab.

I believe we spoke last evening about this, check your PM, I have sent you more information regarding the retal that is due to your player.

OP - in your case hording cash will work best.

I'm not sure about that, but LaF will farm you to the ground if they think they can get away with it. Small groups and untaggeds have no hope in this server. Your only bet is to join an established alliance.

indeed, LaF will just farm any small alliance and they cannot survive in the alliance server. Look whats happened to Ely.

I hadn't checked the forums in the last 20 hours when you made the post that these guys were under your protection.

Any of the countries in this tag are free to retal me, but I will not accept a cross tag kill because you announce 20 hours ago that these tags are now a part of RD.

You have to give people some time to find these things out ffs, I do not browse these forums everyday, in fact I found out about this from somebody in-clan through boxcar.

Now that I know I obviously wont be grabbing them anymore, but look at the timestamp on your post and those grabs - be reasonable.

Need help here.

I was seeding an ally and it seemed he could only benefit fully if he had twice of what I was teching in a particular category. For example, if ally had 100 points res, I could tech up to 200 points in res and he would receive his 10% (20 points). Anything higher than 200 points would be capped at the 20 points.

So it appears a tech ally can only benefit up to 20% of his current tech levels?

Can somebody who worked the formulas in here come in and clarify exactly how research alliances work.

BTW this is on team server.

Just finished doing basically the same start up in both TEAM and ALLIANCE servers and am at a dramatically higher TPT in alliance.

In team I have 3406 RLs on 3768 Acres and tech 846 TPT
In Alliance I have 3524 RLs on 3885 acres and tech 1145 TPT

Why is there such a dramatic difference in the formulas for TPT on these two servers?

Wh

cost me the #1 spot in A

Archiac - you told me you are retiring from the game after this set so what do you care about the future of MKR?

Lets be honest, MKR is dead, Earth is dead. I don't know why I keep playing this game, but, to be honest, I will probably quit sometime soon as well.

Say what you will, I'm just trying to preserve what little enjoyment I still get from playing this game.

Snawdog - don't bother restarting when your country gets killed, I've already deleted you from Boxcar.

RD,

We regret having gotten involved with you this set. We have no wish to war against you as it is war we cannot win. Our players wish to net and you can be assured we will avoid hitting any and all of your countries for the sets to come. We submit to your policies regarding grabs against your countries. Just make sure we know which tags are yours and you will have no problems from MKR.

I also retract any comments I made in an attempt to defame RD relating to them running bots or multis. I had no evidence to make such claims and was just blowing off steam after the devastation their FS caused my clan. I do not regard RD as cheaters, these guys are just really, really good players.

I would also like to inform you that Archiac will be leaving MKR next set and that MKR cannot be responsible for any opinions he expresses on these forums, should he continue to post on these forums after his departure from the server.

As for all the non-RD clans trying to farm our restarts while we are down, just know that we will return to enforcing our normal FA policy, which includes a KILL for any country grabbing us more than five times.

Good luck to you all and may we peacefully net.

Kyle

I have no evidence to suggest RD are cheating this set and I think the argument that better moderation on EE would deter and make impossible any wide scale cheating.

I made my accusations because my clan was obliterated during the RD FS and it appears there was some misunderstanding that got us on their sh*t list in the first place.

@RD - we netted last set under a different tag, GUNNER, and had nice success and began to bring back new members. We did not mess with you at all last set, we did not kill anything last set, we simply netted and enjoyed the set.

I'm sorry Archiac insulted you on the message boards but that is no reason to take out our entire clan. MKR is not in any coalition with DTCP or LORDS and we do not wish to war with you guys. you guys annihilated us with your FS and my members now want to leave the game completely.

We do not have the capacity in any sense to war. MKR is just recreational players who login maybe once every few days. We prefer to net, and we have always been able to stay out of eachothers way in the old 1A (in fact, the first rule I learned when I joined MKR in 1A was do not hit any tag with RD in it, lol).

I apologize for my remarks and admit my accusations hold no water. I was angry that we were blindsided like we were for reasons I did not understand. Please contact me by PM and let me know how we get back to the way things were ; we don't bother you and you don't bother us. Like I said, we prefer to net and have no capacity or interest in warring. Your FS was indeed impressive and absolutely devastating to me and my clanmates. We have no interest in warring with you guys, so please, contact me and lets figure this out.

that is laughable, we are not in any coalition with Lords or DTCP. We were annihilated by an ALLIANCE of 6 TEAMS, which is exactly what the server was fighting against during the first few sets.

We never had a chance to fight back. We got slaughtered by a force three times the size of our own, and we were already obliterated before we knew who hit us. Bravo, I suppose, but why not try a fair fight next time.

prior to having my country killed for no reason, retard. Clearly now I am talking smack. Please tell me why you killed my country and FSed my clan.

not really a beat down at all when it is 6 tags versus 2. Nope, wouldn't say that is much of a fair fight, especially when they FS and kill half of our countries. Not much we can do about it, can we?

Where are the anti-cross retal people now? Seriously, where?

what makes you think there aren't multis involved? These guys cheated for years in the old Earth and I'm logically inclined to believe they continue cheating now.

This server has become exactly what I thought it would become - a playground for EC players to leverage their old alliances in a new format. Guess there is no room for any of the old 1A alliances in this server anymore.

Mr Silver - if you didn't want to be accused of cheating you should not have joined a clan of notorious cheaters.

Explain to me again why my country is dead, actually. I rarely come on to post, don't talk sh*t, and prefer to net.

Why was I so lucky to be killed during your FS? Did I accidentally grab one of your multies?

ROFLx20 at legit RD. ROFLMAO.

problem is they didn't have the stones to stick their countries and multies in any tags we would recognize. At least now we are aware of the identities of these cheating scum.

I remember they posted it right before E2025 was shut down. Wish I had downloaded it when I had the chance.

Anyway, let me know if anybody has this on their HD, I would like to take a look at it.

Cheers.

PS - This is for scientific/research purposes only and does not indicate any intent to actually use the bot to cheat in the game.