funny how i'm running several untagged countries on this server and they were all farmed by BSS the last few days. So you guys farm untaggeds - hypocrite pieces of fluff.

what are you piece of fluff retards doing i'm trying to net on this server not war thanks for ruining the game for me go fluff yourselves, you fluffing miserable retards.

If you're going to jump like that keep an eye out for cheap jets/turrets on the public market. A jet on the public market at 110 is at $195/NW, which puts it at the same value as a troop on the private market at $98.

Not sure what your private market military costs are as a theo non-MBR, but always check for cheaper military on the public market, cheaper being in terms of $$/NW

War on xHGx. Blah Blah Blah.

If you don't know why, look here.

http://forums.earthempires.com/...1094385&z=hg-declares

I think you got too big, should've stopped at 20k and jumped as TMBR, imo.

as of now its not worth it to spend the money to convert to TMBR, it would cost too much and you don't have enough stock to justify the cost.

rough calculation suggests you will be able to drop about 2b on your private market per 24 hours, so looks like you probably have some more time to stock.

your all jet strategy only works if people decide to peacefully exchange grabs with you.

your all jet strategy gives them little incentive to do so.

or try me on IRC, #MKR on gamesurge

it depends on how much stock you have and how long its going to take you to convert to TMBR

average price hasn't gone over 40 all set, horrible set for farmers is what i'm talking about.

bushel never went much above 40, pretty horrid.

MKR will have 3 tags this set

MKR
MKR2
RbdWlvs

Cheers

ya I did it, I'm just that nice a guy =)

can you explain to me how 1 LG cost you $10m NW?

lol, dont worry, you never would have had #1.

you want us to clear your bushels ;-)

ttr definitely has more potential than an all X demo techer. Only reason I've been playing all X demo is cuz I'm lazy. all X ttr is probably even better than all x Demo techer.

tourny games are so small that the market dynamics you typically see in alliance and team don't exist. There is not bushel "bubble" mid-set because there is really only minimal stocking. Also tech isn't as valuable in the early set, prices are pretty flat around 2-3k/pt most of the set.

missile is fine

what happened to the earth 2025 formulae wiki page? I know for a fact they derived the optimal tax rate using calculus here.

declaring war to attack only works for GDI, with humanitarians, you can't do anything when they are protesting :-/

i bought some SDI and plan on leveling him to the ground, if anybody wants to get in on it.

tertius is not kammer.

This guy hit me too, over 20 missiles and I never hit him. Just a clown suicider who isn't good enough to play a successful country.

Rob - I was Demo and made a few bucks buying and selling bushel on the private market. Other than that, I don't know. Sometimes I get grabbed after a batch explore and that really hurts my finishing NW.

This set I got grabbed twice after a batch XP and actually grabbed a country twice to get back to around 6.5k, so technically I wasn't all XP, made 2 grabs last set.

there is an option to create a new country (and enter a lower level game) or to continue with your existing country. You must have selected the wrong option ;-)

I finished at 21.4m NW. One of the better resets I've had all-XP but not enough to beat you or Rob.

good game Rob and JJ23.

JJ23 - to time your jump best you need to calculate the rate your private market regenerates military, this is a function of your acerage.

On another note, the recent re-introduction of ghost acres has made grabbing more profitable around the board, it yields more acerage for each grab, and you will typically gain in acerage even if you are retalled. Really this makes grabbing strats more powerful than all-X strats.

Before ghost acres were brought back, all-X strats fared a bit better against grabbing strats.

I know it used to be 35 or 36% (for tyranny) but that was based on bushel price of $32. Now that bushel price is more like $39, what is the optimal tax rate (it should go up).

drinks you say HG being in our news is okay because they are warring us? Did you see the declaration? Do you know why they are warring us?

You all basically suicided on our entire tag and called it a war with absolutely no justification whatsoever. I had invested a significant amount of time trying to finish with a strong netting set which you ruined. Another one of my players was killed so his set was ruined.

its not fair to FS a netting clan, so don't act like just because its 6v6 is fair.

Btw I'm at a family funeral which is why I haven't been able to organize my guys.

just to be clear, this is xNEx AND xHGx against MKR?

Can you explain why xNEx is involved in this?

wait, what is your rationale here? You are declaring war on us because we did well last set despite you suiciding on me?

And your clan is okay with this? They think this is something fair?

This seems like very poor FA.

I think you will soon learn the value of good FA.

Call it a war if you'd like, but seems like you're just suiciding on a netting clan again this set except this time you brought some friends.

Cheers.

Rob: Thanks. I did play theo techer for a few sets and got to 9-10k and did finish slightly better than my all XP demo (I don't remember if I converted to MBR to jump, I'm pretty sure I did). Problem is I'm playing Team, Alliance and Primary so I play all XP in tournament because I'm lazy and don't have time to grab. Part of me also wants to try to win the set with this start one day, lol.

I'm sure my all XP will beat some of the grabbing techers and lose to some of the grabbing techers this set. A few opportunistic midfeeds to about 10k acres seems to be the best way to play techer in tournament. BUT that is higher risk as you run the chance of being retalled and eventually spending too much time/money getting to that landgoal.

The greatest cost to a techer when he grabs is the opportunity cost of not teching. If I'm at 2.2k TPT early in the set when tech is around $3000/pt, each turn I spend NOT teching costs me $6.6m. So when you spy your target, spend the turns grabbing and then buillding, the cost begins to add up. If these costs are eventually offset by future increased productivity, it is worth it, if they are not, you are actually worse off.

I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, I'm just trying to re-articulate the point I was originally trying to make as it seems I did a poor job explaining myself. But yes, it all comes down to grabbing efficiency.

cool. Good luck. Good to see some old players coming back to the game =)

The 12k techer spends more time and resources grabbing than he realizes later in the set from the increased productivity. I see it all the time.

I never said 6.5k acres was optimal, I said there is a lower optimal acerage in tournament than in other servers due to the shorter set time.

If you can make a few opportunistic grabs early and get up to 8-10k acres, you will probably do quite well, but that is more risky. You end up getting retalled and spending too much time and money trying to grow.

With so few players in the game these days, it is very difficult to grab efficiently. There aren't many targets and you're more than likely going to get retalled a few times.

I felt your response to my post was unproductive and condescending which is why I responded as I did. I'm done posting in this thread, I will post my final NW though and we will see who comes out on top, Rob, JJ23, or myself.

how many CS do you have?

I would stick to 25k, that is plenty as a techer. The sooner you start stocking, the better, as the price of bushels tends to balloon up as soon as everybody begins to stock. Best to start early and grab bushels while they are cheap.

By the way dude, read my post, I never said 6.5k was the optimal size. I said the optimal size is much lower due to the shorter set length. I said I personally play a 6.5k acres all XP, but being slightly bigger and making a few opportunistic grabs is probably optimal. So, I made no contradiction and happen to know exactly what I am talking about. Go somewhere else troll.

Unless your name is AFAIK you can STFU. I'm #2 all time in NW in game A. So please, results or SFTU and GTFO. Otherwise you are just speculating and probably wrong. Thx Bye.

Rank Name Score
1 afaik $19,346,319
2 kwmi $17,251,353
3 Shadow $17,098,819
4 Unlinked Account $16,911,572
5 Getafix $16,614,573
6 Unlinked Account $16,551,220
7 M0REP0WER $16,499,728
8 jedioda $15,910,427
9 ZIP $15,675,805
10 NitelL $15,407,342

^^

Lol this guy taking it so personally. JJ23 - Lets bet then. Lets see if your 12.8k TTR sh*ts on my 6.5k demo techer. I'm in Game A.

Rob I'm willing to take your bet too. Friendly wager.

As for the flamer above me, you clearly don't know how to net and I would appreciate if you put up or shut up. If you know so much about the game, then beat my score =)

how can you drop 20 mil NW off anybody? spy ops are only powerful if you are at the same NW as your target, hence, a small suicider is better off with missiles than spy ops.

I am talking about techer, here, obviously a commy has to grab throughout the set and is better off having as much land as possible. But a 6-8k techer will beat any commy, casher, or farmer, most of the time. Best strat in tourny is a 8-10k TTR, grabbing as efficiently as possible.

Want to bet that I finish with a higher NW on my 6.5k acres than you?

If you read my post, I say it is best to make A FEW opportunistic grabs and maybe end up around 8-9k acres, and that is probably optimal, but if you spend too much time and money grabbing, I guarantee you will not have a great netting set.

The set is so short that there is not a lot of time to profit from the increased productivity of more acerage. Most of the time people spend more money grabbing, building and growing their countries than what they benefit later from increased productivity.

seriously, any one target gets "spied out" after 15-20 ops, anyway. If you are using up to 50 ops on a single country in one day, you are doing it wrong.

its actually because the set is so short the optimal size is quite small. I usually go all X, ennding up with 6.5k acres and about 20m NW. I could probably finish slightly higher with a few opportunistic landgrabs, but I prefer the all XP.

Guys, RD was trying to be reasonable here, we were negotiating the situation with the 4 hits on #30 and one of our players retaled on the the retal.

It was a mistake but it was a very dumb mistake, case is closed.

I see diplomacy has failed

PM'd you.

Don't know what he was thinking...

if RD does it must be okay

3 people is not enough turns for a proper kill run. You even said, you would have killed me, but your clan, with only 3 people, did not have the turns, so you instead ABed me.

I was not going to stop netting and waste turns to kill your country, that would have been exactly what you wanted me to do =P

Anyway now I know who your tag is and clearly I wont grab you 6 times again next set. GL.

ya three people on an offchat KT, 4, what a fluffing joke?

What's a joke is you tried to ruin my set and I'm still easily in top 10.

ya no sh*t

Never know who it is you're grabbing, this guy turned out to be good.

Just saying we gotta go after this guy now.

GL to the rest.

We are killing country #49 because he suicided on my country and ruined my set. We have no problem with your clan at this point, just this one country, who decided to hold a grudge for over two weeks and kamakize my ass.