it took me 7 days to destock a little over 1b bushels as a theo on 45k acres with 10k MBs. I have a spread sheet made out with private market prices, replenishment rates adjustable for the land, and cash equivalent of the bushels given public market sale price and adjustable public market tax rate.

1b was about 140m nw (and the amount of sells really effects end nw as 150m nw means you lose $80-100m/turn with each sale of bushels)

Ha ha. Pretty funny Slagpit. I knew you were just a hypocrite to your own policies. Way to take the bate and suicide 10m+ nw off me, causing me to lose in a reset I made a country just to shut you up for gloating about winning the previous set.

- the primary server

/congrats to SOL on pushing him over the edge.

The old standard for tags was to allow 3 grabs per alliance in 72 hours on different countries. Anything more was then considered an act of aggression. Certainly something like that is hard to keep track of, but when it did, alliances would simply sign a 1 week non-aggression pact to show good faith.

does that mean collab would be down?

im sure sof would be game

What if a test server was created, using 'Alliance' as its skeleton, with a stated 1:1 retal standard. Any alliance attempting to undermine that policy would then face united opposition to their policy. Perhaps such a 'standard' could just be issued on the current Alliance server upon the next reset.

I just posted this so a variety of opinions upon the subject could be voiced and discussed.

*rephrase of Requiem's thread*

damn you pang!

;)

EVO isn't a netting alliance, lets face it, you war every reset. When was the last time someone in EVO posted up a good finish? If all the 'netting' alliances you are talking about war more than 50% of the time, are they not 'war' alliances? Labeling is over-rated.

Hellz X: Stop giving everyone a reach-around unless you are going to give one to me too!

lol @ sifos

Obviously martian works as a janitor and should not be listened to. EVO deserves preferential treatment because two of their leaders are involved in game development. Please add them to your preferred treatment list ASAP.

Slagpit: The point was to make you kill me. It took 1600+ hits. Your analysis of a topfeeding is that it depends on how much land each country had prior to the retal. I disagree. Please don't be such a deutshe about wording when, by definition, analysis was a fine word to use.

Thanks TAN for making the only logical point against classifying hits as topfeeds or not.

Well, it just so happens that Slagpit has posted around 4th or 5th in several of the threads I just read and there was a giant ad over his comments. New formatting??

"Slagpit
Administrator
Game Development
Posts: 82 Apr 24th 2010, 18:06:06
Depends on how much land A had after the grab."

Ok, I will get 150% mil strat then start grabbing EVO. Your analysis is silly. Whether a landgrab is an intentional hit to get more land than the defender can reclaim with a single retal (what everyone has been referring to as a topfeed) is the only thing relevant here.

What about the alternative of offering Certificates of Deposit with the market for stocking? 1% interest on 1 week, 2% on 2 weeks, force people to buy bushels for short-term stocking.

Dibs, it is a retirement thread you dumb F&&K

Thats horrible mate. >:(

GET BETTER~

>>The 2b bug should be modified by server. It seems unnecessary to change it on a server like primary.

I would agree with SolidSnake that it was not a limit meant to be reached with such frequency. Removing it would radically change the commodity of food which, I am not necessarily against, because it would lead to changes in government types to compensate farmers. However, it seems logical, in an effort to not make 'radical changes' to the game at this stage, to simply expand the limit to something less frequently reached. To this end, cash on hand would be as susceptible as ever to landgrabs and spy ops.

I like the idea of modifying the $2b limit to something like $4b. ($3b is more in proportion to the relative increase of turns from 2 to 3 per hour but with the increase in land acquired through grabbing it seems low still)

Last reset when LaF players tagged over is a good example. You know what happened when an alliance could not retal them? They were KRed. It is the nature of an alliance driven server to make cooperative efforts. Ivan is neither being unreasonable, as martian pointed out he has made contact, nor is he threatening the entire alliance.

Slagpit: It is clear that you don't agree with SoFs gameplay, but it is certainly not ruining the server. I am not surprised that when you make such lofty statements of opinion that you get an equally lofty opinionated response back from the one like SS made. To that end, I could say that statements like the ones being made are making AT unenjoyable to read.

If we all toned down the rhetoric, everyone would benefit.

Xelah: just contact Ivan and get this resolved in a beneficial way for both parties. Maybe you can make a pact.