Rage, you may have noticed that we have fired a first shot across your bow.*

We know that you have been engaged in psychological warfare against us for years, and you've been trying to convert our coveted (and slightly aging) Tony Stark to your meddling ways. But the madness must stop! This time, you have crossed the line, stealing away our INVINCIBLE IRONMAN and trying to add him to your ranks.

So, we, The Our Thing, demand that you release our thing: The IRONMAN. Relinquish the IRONMAN, old person spittle and all, or face destruction! Give him him back to our warm embrace, where he may live out the rest of his days in the LCN Home for The Aging and Slightly Deranged.

Love,
Purposeful1
LCN President


*Our aim is a little poor these days, we may have hit a bow or two.

what is the specific instance of "griefing" that this thread is referring to?

29k farm/oil

Scribble, Trife, and I are probably the most active ATM. Servant comes and goes.

Wait, where'd you pull that from, Marshal?!

Wiki entry says:

President: Purposeful1 E-mail:
VP/FA: Servant ICQ: 32262071 E-mail:
HFA: Scribble Forum PM E-mail:
IA: Nuketon E-mail:


And yeah, I finally capitulated to downloading ICQ late, only to realize that it was even worse than I could have ever imagined.

relatively so, yes.

almost 17k farmer/oiler mix here

I'm around too, if you need me.

+1 to Angel1's last post.

hawkeyee's point about making those calculations should be interesting, but I think that's less to do with the union representation so much as the ramifications of considering student athletes "employees". If they are employees, then do they get paid hourly? Are there rules about how many hours they can work in a day/week/month? How does "overtime" work? Are they exempt salaried workers? This brings up a whole host of interesting questions.

I'm surprised that the NLRB ruled in their favor, to be honest, but I'm glad they did (even if NU is going to appeal this over and over...). I went to Northwestern and had some friends who were on the team/who are a part of this particular movement. While, yes, they weren't the biggest, baddest football players, and they did get a pretty nice deal on their education, many of them did end up significantly reducing their pro chances by coming to Northwestern, and they end up risking quite a bit to continue to play. Regardless, I think it's a good thing to have *somebody* advocating for student athletes. There's a pretty big disparity in negotiating power between the NCAA/colleges that earn big bucks on sports and these students. We can complain from the sidelines that this might "hurt colleges' ability to fund their programs", but is trading the health of its (unrepresented) students for that funding really a good trade? I believe we should be having a larger discussion about making sure our universities are well-funded, regardless of the success of their sports programs.

I think they nailed the ending, but if it weren't for the last three minutes, the movie would have been very disappointing.

I mean, he *did* ask me a silly question on facebook about a song, and then i logged in for the first time in a while...


Ironman, where is all your land? Are you running a commie indy again?

Miss me? <3 <3 <3

Sounds fun. Scodey wants to play?

I don't know who the hell to tell, but if you're a casher looking to hit another casher, consider me "opted in".

#570

sent you a response!

Hahahaha, look at this idiot *wanting* to be in leadership. You're hired!

LCN declares war on Rival and RD, per our pact with SOL.

Just in case there was any confusion.

yes

i'll be around the next few hours at least!

TTTTT

Why is there a limit that each player may only report another for rules violations once per 12 hours? I mean, I understand not wanting spamming, but that seems a little arbitrary. I can envision more than one discovery each 12 hours, and people wanting to submit different reports for different types of rules violations... Maybe limit it more to something like 3-5 per 24 hours?

bbq?

i'm still baffled that one FA package that we told SoF about and apologized to SoF for immediately after logically leads to a FS. I explained to SoF that I had received information that LaF was FAing SoF, which later I found out was unproven. I told LCNers not to FA. One FA package was sent, and MD'ers rejected the other (few) pact offers that were sent.

As for the PDM'ers in this thread praising our downfall, a couple months ago I apologized to Tisya and TAN about our FS of you guys. We got overaggressive and misinterpreted others' intentions, and I'll freely admit that declaring war on you guys was a bad call on my part. One of the few times I've genuinely felt bad about something I've done in this game. To any of you who haven't heard it yet in PDM, I'm sorry.

Against established clans? When?

That's exactly what I'm asking. Close as I can tell, it's to bait MD into a war while keeping LaF in the wings as backup in case the tides start turning against them. But who knows. All I know is that the reasons given aren't terribly logical. But maybe that's exactly the conclusion... these leadership decisions aren't very logical.

hi major!

When LCN signs pacts, we hold to them, because that's what we agreed to do. We don't use "out" clauses or "exceptions", because those mean that you aren't willing to fully commit to the agreement you're saying you're making.

You mean upholding our pact agreement to defend our allies against aggression? I've been called in by allies lots of times in the last eight or so years, but this is the first time I've ever heard of a multi-set grudge for holding to our pact agreements.

The point is, neither of these reasons are the real reasons for SoF hitting us; they're just public excuses to mask their real purpose.

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So 1 FA package that *we* told them about equals a FS against the entire alliance? I didn't know SOF's current FA policies were inspired by Imag's retal policy circa 2005!

Uh, because you want to fight them, duh.

"informed the heads"? You didn't inform me of anything--I told YOU about the FA when people started asking whether there was FA!

Alright, all is justified then.

screw it, we all know this is just an excuse to get MD to fight, anyway.

Which countries?

Proof? Your proof is as flimsy as the other side's proof that your countries were receiving FA/market manipulations! Your only proof is our own honesty that we sent a single FA package. /facepalm.

Oh really? I would know. The internal LCN announcement to organize FA became public knowledge hours after it was made. There would have been pact evidence that I'm sure you guys would have brought to my attention if that were the case. There was one FA package sent by one of our leaders, that's it.

Do you have any substantiation for the argument that you're making, or are you really just trying to bait us into starting a server war?

You're FSing us because we sent one FA package, openly admitted our mistake, then apologized (and we would have sent reps, too)?

Are you referring to that FA debacle a set or two ago? Because my recollection is that MAYBE one FA package was sent in total after we misunderstood the nature of who was FAing who. As soon as we found out that there wasn't any proof of the other side receiving outside FA, we halted all plans to FA, promptly apologized for the misunderstanding, and moved on.

Rather than trying to change the subject, how about just being straight with what the real reason for this is. Is it to exercise an out clause with another alliance? Is it just for sh*ts and giggles? Is it to protest landtrading (even though LCN's a newcomer to that scene)?

I'm confused, because I've had a good relationship with SoF for a long time (despite hearing opinions to the contrary from other alliances), and I'm wondering why LCN was chosen to be so deserving of this honor.

what's the deal with the 2 kills?

I had (what I thought was) a nice conversation with iScode last night about the merits of outrunning retals. Now, today, some blindsiding attacks? To misuse an old Wendy's slogan... where's the beef?

=(

that degenerated quickly.

you can PM or gchat me for any LCN-related stuff.

The CS losses also make being a techer landtrader a LOT less profitable, since you end up spending so much time rebuilding your CS as is.

I've been sending you irc messages, tellarion!

v-tec paintball and KOS (kings of survival?) were my favorites, wayyyy back in the day. sniper paintball was alright, too.

Looks like it's a "peeler"--a machine with steel blades used to cut carpeting core.

Adhesion contracts=> unconscionable to enforce (so the argument goes)

I'm around.

Still Kickin'!