The women are ours though. go find your own!

Scrapping foreign aid altogether would create a whole different set of political consequences.

Sled dogs in some places ;)

I like this idea. It's one of those small cosmetic things which most people probably find trivial, but I think it would actually help newer people get a feel for how much to send in an attack; You can worry less about doing the full math/calculation for the break, and know where you stand by the type of message you get.

hmm.. devalue food more?

NOW3P, hold the control key when you click a link. Most decent browsers like FF or Chrome will open the link in a new window.

This comes up quite often, it's a known problem and not much can be done about it. Please read on.

The site doesn't have a unique identifier for every person (which is pretty dumb).

Somebody from the same ISP (and probably lives close to you) has already voted for EE or another game they play, making it impossible for anybody else in your area (on that ISP) to vote as well.

It's not something thats controlled from this side, you might want to try contacting them and voicing your opinion on the matter. http://www.top100arena.com/contact.asp

http://forums.earthempires.com/...mp;z=mmorpg-top-100-bonus

http://forums.earthempires.com/...p=1308248715&z=mmorpg

Closing this nonsense. A sticky thread has been made.

iOsiris http://eestats.com is better since you don't have to do any work, the game news feeds/bore's scripts do all the work. :)

I hear if you wobble left and right in your chair as you look at the captcha it pops out in 3d and is clear as day.

PS.. if you can do it all-x you get slag's respect too :P

He didn't say self-farming was wrong.. he supported it, though he doesn't necessarily do it himself. I actually give him credit to some degree if thats truly the case.

By the technical rules of the game, self farming isn't cheating.. ok, ya got me there... I still say to TKO if you TRULY want be number one, then prove it and farm other alliances/players.

Show us you have the ability to spy another country, calculate the break and grab/keep the land.. if you can go an entire set without doing yourself and still get number one.. you have my apologies and respect.

ya, clearly express doesn't have enough turns as it is :P

and the number Ozzite

[14:26:58] <ketch> you cant grab a 10k acre country with a 1k acre country.....no matter what. he leeched tech of fof allies, sold it, and bought up to grab
[14:27:01] <ketch> which IMHO is cheap
[14:28:20] <GeneralEarl> but not illegal ;)
[14:28:42] <ketch> i know
[14:28:49] <ketch> TKO has morals. unforutnatly:p
[14:29:14] <GeneralEarl> you guys self farm though, right?
[14:29:49] <GeneralEarl> I guess its ok to pick and choose which morals > others
[14:31:51] <ketch> If anyone has morals they are picking and choosing what morals.
[14:32:00] <ketch> Our morals are based on how we interact with others.
[14:32:24] <ketch> With not harming others excesivly in ways which they cannot either 1) Protect themselves from or 2) retal and get decent returns back
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[14:34:11] <GeneralEarl> I still believe self farming is light-cheating and you guys need to get your ass reamed for it.. just my opinion though
[14:34:28] <ketch> HOw is it cheating?
[14:34:54] <ketch> Its using our 16 countries to produce the best outcome for the tag we can.
[14:34:58] <GeneralEarl> work for your land.. doing yourself isnt any challenge
[14:35:03] <ketch> We arent taking any means noone else can do.
[14:35:49] <ketch> Land trading is work. How to do it the most effeciently. How to deter war tags from grabbing you from 3k acres. WHat point to do it till. When to stop. The CSes are a major issue when doing it.
[14:36:17] <ketch> It takes more talent, more time, more effort then all-x countries. ANd its more enjoyable as it alters the game play from the traditional all-x that we've run for so long.
[14:36:47] <ketch> Honestly i didnt self farm (other then my retallers) at all last netting set. I dont know if ill do it next set. But it does take effort and talent ot pull it off properly.
[14:37:25] <ketch> I got yelled at mroe for landgrabbing then self farming. Ive gotten more suiciders because of it. So apparently grabbing doesnt make people happy either.
[14:37:40] <GeneralEarl> Not really.. I guess you can keep telling yourself that and believe it though.
[14:39:28] <ketch> you run 16 land trading countries. Well have one of our talented members (im not talented) run. Lets see if the ending NW are close, or there is a major difference.
[14:40:27] <GeneralEarl> you're missing the point.. you use questionable tactics in order to gain that TNW/ANW
[14:41:01] <GeneralEarl> go grab other tags if you want land and lets see if you can pull off those 'amazing' NWs
[14:41:40] <GeneralEarl> use some real skill
[14:41:47] <ketch> It isnt questionable.
[14:41:56] <ketch> Im saying that there is real skill/talent involved.
[14:42:09] <ketch> ANd if we have 2 netters going head to head, it will still show you the difference.
[14:42:17] <ketch> I didnt self farm last set, and was above TKO ave net.
[14:42:35] <GeneralEarl> good for you, that shows you actually have real skill.
[14:42:41] <ketch> I farmed the fluff out of untags, probably madea few quit. But its worth it to appease the people like you who hate when i dont do it.
[14:44:12] <GeneralEarl> Well, if you can pull it off.. I think thats great. You still associate yourself with people who DO farm themselves. If you were really guided by any morals you would leave that piece of fluff tag and join people who worked just as hard as you do

captchas arent getting worse.. just stop drinking so much!

/me hands NBK the duct tape.. sewing is for girls!

I just clicked on the 'Create Countries' link for FFA, and was greeted with this:
http://coredump.t28.net/pics/sfw/ee/display01.png

Running FF 5

[00:55:36] * Aliyah reads kta a bedtime story.
[00:56:21] [Within[SnG]] read about the young pickle-wan who became a king

Once upon a time... In a land far away... There was a little boy named Jack.
Everyone called him W for some reason though... But no one knows why. One day,
he went to town to sell his cow because his family had no money. For some
reason, they were vegetarians and wouldn't kill and eat the cow either.

When he returned, he had a pickle stalk... Unheard of in most lands, yes. But
all the same, once it grew up, it would be filled with juicy, flavorful and
wonderful pickles. Or so the seller said.

The pickle stalk grew and grew. One day, Little W thought it would be fun to
climb the pickle stalk. He didn't know what he would find, but he thought that
just perhaps... He might find the biggest and best pickle of all at the very
top! So he climbed and climbed and climbed! As Little W climbed, the angels
of the heavens pee'd coors light down from the clouds. It was the most devine
golden shower ever!

Once little W reached the top, he found Pickleland! What a joyous place! Pickles
of all shapes and sizes! Some even danced... What the? That's not normal.
Dancing pickles?

He played with the little pickles (oh my) and even ate a few on his way... They
might have screamed as they went down. No one really knows. Once he got into
the middle of Pickleland, little W found the biggest pickle of all! It was not
an ordinary pickle either! It had teeth! And it was more like a giant out to eat
any tresspassers in its kingdom!

W had eaten its babies!
"i <3 the baby pickles", W exclaimed.

So this pickle tried to entice W into staying so he could kill him. W tried to
eat him instead though.

"Your babies.. they are so tender! those lil' garlic n' dills... YUM!", said W.

W was trying to eat the Pickle King, and the Pickle King was trying to eat W. An
interesting battle until they both fell down the pickle stalk, killing the
tyrant who was formerly the Pickle King. W landed on top of him, causing pickle
juices to squirt out everywhere! "Hey Mom! I found the biggest pickle of all!
And he has teeth!" W exclaimed. Suddenly, all the little pickles came flooding
to the ground in a heap, no longer held under bondage by the Pickle King and
declared W... Or Little Jack... To be their new king who would love them
forever... Even if he ate a few along the way... At least they wouldn't be made
to dance and sing all day long.

Everyone lived happily ever after.

THE END

I suggested it because there have been a few times where I make my country, then after the fact, learn that there is a tag theme and would like to change it.. I'm sure the mods encounter this kind of stuff all the time. It would be nice to take some work off their shoulders by letting users do this in a controlled way.

It would be a welcome feature, even if countries could only change their name while under protection. Now that I think about it, changing country names oop (even if there is a hefty penalty) would/could be abused greatly.

Thanks for the positive feedback :)

But do it in a similar way to switching governments.

If you're still in protection, you get to do it 'free' like switching from Mono to Dict, but if you're oop.. make a hefty penalty on the country.

You can't really change a real country's name without some kind of civil war or disorder.

Even if it just scrolls me down to a page anchor, it would be faster than scrolling down.. not to mention ease the load on my scrolling finger. All this repetitive motion is giving me carpal tunnel.

We need a cleanup on aisle 5, my head just exploded.

But can you divide by zero!

Most NHL players hail from Canada in the first place, so no matter what, the cup is always in Canadian hands.. well, sorta.

If you keep telling yourself this, you eventually believe it! :)

Earth IS a sport too! just like NASCAR.. right ford?

The only true test.. everyone start shooting, let god sort it out.

I always thought pumpernickel was some kind of edible cork.

They did pretty significant damage for a bunch of lazy potheads. Congratulations Vancouver.. for making Canada look like a bunch of sore losers.

I'm pretty sure punctuation can be omitted all together, its only there to confuse bots.

it makes you a better player if you use the points yourself!

iirc, bonus points will go poof if not used within a certain period of time.

I've got some old archives available for people to help transfer to the EE wiki. http://coredump.t28.net/eartherwiki/

You can view the pages online or download the entire archive (which isn't all that large) if you would like an offline copy for yourself.

Don't forget to add the eartherwiki template {{eartherwiki}} to the top of the pages on the EE wiki. These pages can be edited and fine-tuned at a later date, however, it's perfectly ok to do page cleanup as you transfer the articles if you have the time! Thanks.

As I said before.. if you are having problems with the MMORPG bonuses, contact THEM at http://www.top100arena.com/contact.asp

There is nothing any game mod or developer can do from this end.

Instead of SETI for EE, we should try protein folding.. lol. http://folding.stanford.edu/

The site doesn't have a unique identifier for every person (which is pretty dumb).

Somebody from the same ISP (and probably lives close to you) has already voted for EE or another game they play, making it impossible for anybody else in your area (on that ISP) to vote as well.

It's not something thats controlled from this side, you might want to try contacting them and voicing your opinion on the matter. http://www.top100arena.com/contact.asp

If your message auto-magically disappears, you should have the common sense to know maybe you crossed a line somewhere.

its stupid threads like this that prove why having a posting bonus is a bad idea.

If land was a market good (like any other), the market may regulate itself... However land is only limited by the number of players, by explore rates, grabs, ghost acres, etc.. But for the most part, there isn't a very strict limit of how much land can be 'in-play' at a time.

When you can virtually pull land out of your ass at the cost of a turn, land limits get stretched further. I won't say an 'ininite' amount of land, but as it is now you can 'create' land yourself all set, for 'free'.

The only way you could make selling land viable is if you put a harder limit on how much land could actually exist in the game at a given time. You could do this by limiting a player's ability to explore after a certain number of acres (or turns), even nerf (or get rid of) ghost acres. This would really increase the value of land, making it a more finite resource.

I do like the idea of making land harder to come by (for free), even capping the total amount of acres per server is an interesting thought. (That means only a certain amount of land could exist in the game according to how many players were playing on that server, NOT limit the actual amount a player *could* acquire throughout a set.)

I'm sure there's lots more people who'd vehemently disagree with me on that though.

I can't really say there's much of a future in making land a market resource unless people would be willing to deal with a ton of other uplifting game changes to go along with it. It's doubtful the game devs would want to indulge in this kind of experimental change.

Microsoft doesn't really know how to make a decent web browser.. FF works alright.

And can we 'poke' countries from the war room?

An in-game embassy would be great.. and a message noting that you are about to attack someone on a DNH list (but not stop or hinder the attack in any way) is a great idea.

Perhaps specific details of a pact should be reserved to clan admins only (if you even want to incorporate that aspect). Many people don't want this information accessible to everyone.

...oops

come to #teamlot on irc.gamesurge.net one of us will help you

Hey guess what?? It's galleri's birthday now! :)

You want to use strong booze.. so appletons is fine.. even vodka or scotch works too. stay away from anything with sugar/syrup in it (bailey's, kahlua would be BAD)

Or.. another idea (from long ago): make it cost oil to explore

I guess from a 3rd party site's perspective it does make it less elegant.