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May 4th 2020, 17:52:19

I am really not a fan whatsoever of posting logs but since Gargler wants to post private logs....

Through the EE freedom of information ACT i am hereby authorized to declassify the fully unredacted version of the log he posted, you the people can bear witness to his amazing people skills:

chevs04/07/2020
So now you don’t want it to be fair ?
You want to send less than enforcer ?
I knew you and hash would pull this fluff
You don’t even have a chance at the nw record I don’t see the point in being a fluff about it
And not paying the same as enforcer

chevs04/07/2020
Anyway I’m not arguing , you were stocking 95 percent of the set while bushels were 34-39 , all I need to know is if you’re going to pay Y/N

Gerdler04/07/2020
I Will pay because it doesn't matter to me... but its way too expensive
This is not even remotely close to fair tho

chevs04/07/2020
ok whatever I don’t want to burn the relationship over this
Can you pay today at like 50
I just ran 50 turns with 2b food on hand by accident anyway
So I’ll do what you said and drop my food
And then oil destock with what doesn’t sell

Gerdler04/07/2020
If its at 50 I already payed you all I should

chevs04/07/2020
Oh I didn’t see that
True ok
Nvm
I lost all those bushels lol

Gerdler04/07/2020
I paayed you at 43
so far

chevs04/07/2020
I had 2.5b food, was sleepy when I woke up, teched 50 turns
Had 2.2
Lol

Gerdler04/07/2020
all this crap is gonna make monsters win anw tnw

chevs04/07/2020
Eh sorry for my tone I didn’t realize you had already sent
I’m likely going to farm hash right before my bushels hit
The market
I’m tired of his bullfluff, he pulled this im not gonna pay you last set as well
Will help my private jump with an extra 80k acre

Gerdler04/07/2020
did you just fluffing dump all your oil on the public market???
I told you to dump only your food
no one will buy your oil
you are ruining your set, while ruining ours as well
155 is a fluff price to sell oil at even if it does sell
which it wont
its worth more if you use it to jump
RECALL NOW you POS
I told you to sell your food and keep your oil!
and I told you not to do it in one big stupid AF batch

Gerdler04/07/2020
I told you:
Dump your food and spend as much cash on private/public that you have just enough left for the oil you have left and do the oil destock with that. its simple. all you have to do is figure out how many billions you will need for your oil.

chevs04/07/2020
I’m gonna recall in 15 min just need to put baby to bed
Can you tell me what private prices are for demo with oil destock and max mil etc
Need to figure out how much public turrets to buy

Gerdler04/07/2020
u still didnt recall

Gerdler04/08/2020
RECALL

Gerdler04/09/2020
you really didnt have any plan to finish as best you could did you?
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 4th 2020, 18:05:19

I need the rest of this convo to finish my thoughts. kthx


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May 4th 2020, 18:05:30

Meme's are great: https://me.me/embed/i/9444736

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May 4th 2020, 18:14:52

Like I said when I judged General Zod and his cohorts...GUILTY!

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May 4th 2020, 18:23:37

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May 4th 2020, 18:23:54

I gave him a rigorous guide in how to dump his stock to get the most for it on the market and I stressed over and over again two things:
1. do not dump your oil
2. do not dump all your stock in one batch.

He did try to dump his oil and he did try to dump all his food in 1 batch. Theres like 30 hours between him saying he will recall in 15 minutes and when he actually recalled as well, which rightly infuriated me.
His refusal to follow my advise cost him NW and cost LaF at the very least 150m NW last set.

I stand 100% by 100% of what I said.

It's still not clear to me if he did this as an act of purposeful sabotage or on account of being stupid, but some things he said later suggested to me it was sabotage, which was the straw that broke the camels back for me.

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May 4th 2020, 18:44:20

oh fluff,

welcome back chevs
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Mixed with Tony Montana snortin' bags of his coke stash
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May 4th 2020, 18:53:44

Originally posted by galleri:
I need the rest of this convo to finish my thoughts. kthx


That’s the end of our entire chat I didn’t have to dig very far.

I never responded after he message me 3 days in a row
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

Chevs

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May 4th 2020, 18:55:10

Originally posted by Gerdler:
I gave him a rigorous guide in how to dump his stock to get the most for it on the market and I stressed over and over again two things:
1. do not dump your oil
2. do not dump all your stock in one batch.

He did try to dump his oil and he did try to dump all his food in 1 batch. Theres like 30 hours between him saying he will recall in 15 minutes and when he actually recalled as well, which rightly infuriated me.
His refusal to follow my advise cost him NW and cost LaF at the very least 150m NW last set.

I stand 100% by 100% of what I said.

It's still not clear to me if he did this as an act of purposeful sabotage or on account of being stupid, but some things he said later suggested to me it was sabotage, which was the straw that broke the camels back for me.


Spoiler alert I never recalled !

Edit: and still beat hash!

Edit: demos are supposed to resell, all you did for two sets was cry constantly telling me I’m greifer when my interests conflicted with yours

Edited By: Chevs on May 4th 2020, 18:59:28
See Original Post
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 4th 2020, 19:04:03

Ahh good my suspicion confirmed then.

Why in the world wouldn't we kick and ban you then?

For real now. Between your lying and your threats to suicide us and your blaming of others for your own ineptitude there was also straight up sabotage. I'm mostly happy we don't have you here anymore.

Edited By: Gerdler on May 4th 2020, 19:06:09

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May 4th 2020, 20:19:55

But wait!
There is more!
If you send in a photo of your feet with my name written on one.
You might have a chance back!


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May 4th 2020, 20:57:54

I would do it chevs! That’s a low price for a vote!

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May 5th 2020, 7:21:23

Originally posted by galleri:
I need the rest of this convo to finish my thoughts. kthx


I need it to finish my popcorn and beer, good fluff right there LOL
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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Chevs

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May 5th 2020, 14:31:23

Originally posted by Gerdler:

For real now. Between your lying and your threats to suicide us and your blaming of others for your own ineptitude there was also straight up sabotage. I'm mostly happy we don't have you here anymore.


lying? never lied, and i disagree with this characterization. someone reneging on a deal we made i think suicide is an appropriate response

also "mostly"?

u miss me boo? same
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 5th 2020, 14:51:17

haha your interpretation.

You lied about everyone else agreeing on a deal they didn't to try and force all of us to pay you more, you lied and deflected about when you started teching and who you were allied to, you lied that SoF was about to kill our netters, you lied about being too busy to recall. etc etc.

These are just off the top of my head.

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May 5th 2020, 15:19:08

thats called negotiating imo

sounds like u miss our bantz, understandable
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 6th 2020, 22:52:40

I still don't get it..

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May 7th 2020, 14:50:03

Don't worry Bug, no one does...

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May 7th 2020, 18:00:31

We need a Judge (May I suggest a Monster)

We need a prosectuor (May I suggest someone from Laf not Gerdler)

We need a defender. (I volunteer.)

The judge will oversee the process of selecting a jury. And have the ability to decide which evidence can be admitted, or if there is a need to submit subpenus'.


Thoughts?

Regards,

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May 7th 2020, 20:01:11

Originally posted by Chevs:
thats called negotiating imo


none of those negotiations sounded in good faith

the only way it could be considered a matter of fairness is you already tricked en4cer so its unfair to him that hash and gerdler got a less bad deal


your selling tech at x price
then getting the value for it as though food was 37 or something when food was actually 50, because you would have bought food at 37 when it sold
so you can then flip the food into cheaper food as it crashes or jump early

thats what the dispute came from servant, en4cer was told everyone agreed to the terms, then the others were told they had to do it because he did

the other stupid bit about it was chevs considered the tech still his and there was something about no selling any of it on the market

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May 7th 2020, 20:05:39

I don't know why you guys keep waisting your time on Chevs, he's trolling y'all hard at this point...
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
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May 7th 2020, 21:22:47

Originally posted by enshula:
Originally posted by Chevs:
thats called negotiating imo


none of those negotiations sounded in good faith

the only way it could be considered a matter of fairness is you already tricked en4cer so its unfair to him that hash and gerdler got a less bad deal


your selling tech at x price
then getting the value for it as though food was 37 or something when food was actually 50, because you would have bought food at 37 when it sold
so you can then flip the food into cheaper food as it crashes or jump early

thats what the dispute came from servant, en4cer was told everyone agreed to the terms, then the others were told they had to do it because he did

the other stupid bit about it was chevs considered the tech still his and there was something about no selling any of it on the market


the price of tech agreed was 1500 because that was the expected average over the set

i didnt get any passive income from tech allies, and bushels were literally 34-38 for 99% of the set while we were all stocking, bushels were at 58 for literally one day and then those douches want to pay me at 58 and force me to destock

tech never went down to 1500, in fact it went above 4k, when hash started market spying me and putting my own tech up under mine by like 10 dollars every time.

you guys are just selfish pigs and wanted your cake and to eat it to. you cant have it both ways. Gerd and hash don't give a fluff about LaF, Gerd and Hash care about Gerd and Hash (and i still beat hash lol)

look at it this way, enforcer paid, everyone likes enforcer, we are still on good terms

hash and gerd didnt pay, and nobody likes them in any capacity, see the correlation? i wonder why? Maybe i shouldnt have trusted those two incels would act in good faith

Edited By: Chevs on May 7th 2020, 21:26:02
See Original Post
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 7th 2020, 21:51:32

Rofl. Good faith.

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May 7th 2020, 21:59:34

I don't get why LaF paid him, at first i thought it was just helping someone get decent net, but not he's said paid twice and i have no idea why..

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May 7th 2020, 23:15:22

You guys needed a prenup

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May 7th 2020, 23:27:41

Yeah, she was a gold diggah
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May 7th 2020, 23:29:25

Get a room boys.

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May 7th 2020, 23:32:03

paid tech leeches, with disputed conditions

basically chevs wanted 1500/point but as if food was 36 on the day food was 57

so lets say chevs gave 5m tech points to each ally over the course of a set
that would be 2500 turns stocking on 20k tpt average, roughly 60k acres, it would probably be higher

that becomes 7.5b cash worth

if paid at 57 its 131.58m food
if paid at 36 its 208.3m food

which would effectively change the price only for chevs (ignoring market stuff) from 1500 up to 2375

food peaked for a very small period, basically en4cer paid at the worst time, 5 days earlier and it would have been about 66% as much, and 4 days later 72% as much

https://www.eestats.com/...ce/oldmarket/1999/bushels

bus average price for the set was 2373, if chevs still has his market news he could work out his actual average selling price

the argument is probably something like if chevs had sold the tech at the time he would have bought food with it at 36 not 57m, but then youd need to average it for every single day, the time of payment was either agreed or was when chevs decided to jump early, im not sure which, paying on last day is always possible but turn running costs can go up a lot if you need to get within 66% nw of a jumped techer, and paying before the techer stops teching is a little tricky but you could just estimate future tech as long as plans dont change

tech was never going to average 1500 over the course of a set, its been below 1500 once in EE history

https://www.eestats.com/...ce/oldmarket/466/business

not sure what happened that set but the meta is completely different now with bots

gerdler i think has sold tech in the same way in the past at a similar price, and every time he brought it up he used that price, i was never a huge fan of the concept but it wasnt some sort of scam price

also the most benefit is at the start of the set when chevs was allied to me instead of gerdler, and i think allied hash and en4cer pretty late as well using 2 other war techers in laf at the start as tech allies maybe, i allied chevs pretty late in the set too and didnt know anything about this whole thing then

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May 8th 2020, 2:34:42

Nonsense.
I mean these folks cry about the game but can't even forum correctly.
- galleri

trolls be trolling
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I'd rather have just the bad flu than the bad flu and migrants, so..
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Pretty soon all clans will have an accounting and collections department...
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May 8th 2020, 10:02:17

Originally posted by enshula:
words


You writing all these words doesn't change Chevs beating Hash, I think it makes it even worse

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May 8th 2020, 13:39:32

wow, paying people to leach tech..

not really sure what to say..

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May 8th 2020, 15:31:04

Originally posted by tfm0m0:
Originally posted by enshula:
words


You writing all these words doesn't change Chevs beating Hash, I think it makes it even worse

Hash beats Chevs in growing food......


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May 8th 2020, 15:38:37

Originally posted by Bug:
wow, paying people to leach tech..

not really sure what to say..


I never understood that either.
yea maybe you can tech pact out of tag but eat the cost to benefit three tag mates and don't demand tribute in return.

same team kind of mentality

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May 8th 2020, 15:45:06

Interesting concept though.


https://ibb.co/BTF4KkJ
Dev encouraging it

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May 8th 2020, 16:02:32

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by tfm0m0:
Originally posted by enshula:
words


You writing all these words doesn't change Chevs beating Hash, I think it makes it even worse

Hash beats Chevs in growing food......


Is he on FarmersOnly.com?

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May 8th 2020, 16:18:24

One of my harvests last year

https://m.imgur.com/a/iDuVKb3

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May 8th 2020, 16:35:09

Originally posted by Chevs:
One of my harvests last year

https://m.imgur.com/a/iDuVKb3



Very nice, I'm into hydroponics, currently I've got about 20 different varieties of hot peppers, I'm looking forward to making hot sauces, doing it as a hobby now but if I get really good at it maybe go commercial, last year was my first go at hydroponics and did very well :-)
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May 8th 2020, 16:51:22

I want to do hot peppers as well but peppers don’t do well in cold ass Canada , my green peppers are a fluff to germinate and then they take the entire growing season to grow and give me like 4 peppers a plant by late fall
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En4cer: Chevs... u would have beaten me by more than 100m

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May 8th 2020, 16:56:08

Originally posted by Chevs:
One of my harvests last year

https://m.imgur.com/a/iDuVKb3



Wish we had that luck with tomatoes but the summer usually screws us in Texas.

Cucumbers, okra, and black berries are our go to.

Currently fermenting some black berry / dew berry wine.

https://imgur.com/30JlE6F

Edited By: The_Hawk on May 8th 2020, 16:58:09


https://ibb.co/BTF4KkJ
Dev encouraging it

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May 8th 2020, 17:08:31

Chevs u prob need a greenhouse in the great norf

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May 8th 2020, 17:09:51

KoH if you make a nice bottle of hot sauce ill be your first customer! I'm a connoisseur of hot sauce.

I like hot with flavor, not just hot :D

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May 8th 2020, 17:21:32

Originally posted by Chevs:
I want to do hot peppers as well but peppers don’t do well in cold ass Canada , my green peppers are a fluff to germinate and then they take the entire growing season to grow and give me like 4 peppers a plant by late fall


Bells are the worst variety, get Elephant Ears, those produce a ton and are bigger peppers/taste better too, I'm going to use them as filler for my hot sauces, I highly recommend the heating mat for the germination process if you can't find a spot in your house or garage that can stay at 70°F to 80°F consistently temp, that's important for pepper seed germination ;-)
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May 8th 2020, 17:45:46

Originally posted by Requiem:
KoH if you make a nice bottle of hot sauce ill be your first customer! I'm a connoisseur of hot sauce.

I like hot with flavor, not just hot :D


Sweet! I've got Reaper plant if you can handle super hots ;-)

These are my varieties..

Super Hots:
- Reaper
- MOA Yellow Scotch Bonnet
- MOA Red Scotch Bonnet
- MOA Orange Scotch Bonnet
- MOA Chocolate Scotch Bonnet
- Bahemian Goat


Medium Hot varieties:
- White Thai
- Sugar Rush
- Dulce Sol
- Ají Lemon
- Ají Pineapple
- Ají Habanero
- Ají Mango
- Chile de Árbol
- Long Red
- Pequin pepper


Mild to no heat varieties:

- Elephant Ears
- Cubanelle
- Brazilian Starfish
- Jalapeño


I have 4 more that are refusing to germinate, might be old seeds, going to give them another week, sometimes peppers can take up to 5 weeks to germinate, I'm at week 4 with my last 4 variety.
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May 9th 2020, 2:25:51

Soviet would do these. Man chugged Dave's Insanity Sauce in a challenge like it was no issue. I think he is missing his tastebuds, to be honest.
Meanwhile, my mouth might be ok, but my insides would have fury.

You know what KoH....want to send me some seeds? Do you save seeds from your pepper plants? I have a large garden and a greenhouse.


Chevs - we told you need a greenhouse.


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May 9th 2020, 2:31:29

Originally posted by galleri:
Soviet would do these. Man chugged Dave's Insanity Sauce in a challenge like it was no issue. I think he is missing his tastebuds, to be honest.
Meanwhile, my mouth might be ok, but my insides would have fury.

You know what KoH....want to send me some seeds? Do you save seeds from your pepper plants? I have a large garden and a greenhouse.


Chevs - we told you need a greenhouse.


I'll send you fresh seeds when peppers ripen, I've had a good challenge with the seeds I got during the winter, I'm thinking they're older than advertised :-/

My Cubanelle seeds from my last year's harvest sprouted within a week.
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May 9th 2020, 2:39:46

Mahh niggaaaaa keep them peppers flown'

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May 9th 2020, 2:41:10

You betcha! Gotta get that hot sauce going :P
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May 9th 2020, 2:41:20

I have normal Jalapenos this year, Serrano Tampiqueño Hot Pepper, Charleston Hot Pepper, Lombok Hot Pepper, and the usual banana peppers (my neighbor wanted).

What else do you grow?

We do tomatoes, okra (two varieties), watermelon, the peppers, green beans. Some years we add corn, peas, and other goodies. I am being lazy this year. I am about to revamp how the garden looks after this season. And probably move our greenhouse.

I tried Peanuts last year. They did good, but then I didn't get to harvest them due to that surgery. Ants got them.

I forgot I have garlic too! It keeps growing.

Edited By: galleri on May 9th 2020, 2:46:02


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May 9th 2020, 2:59:47

Originally posted by galleri:
I have normal Jalapenos this year, Serrano Tampiqueño Hot Pepper, Charleston Hot Pepper, Lombok Hot Pepper, and the usual banana peppers (my neighbor wanted).

What else do you grow?

We do tomatoes, okra (two varieties), watermelon, the peppers, green beans. Some years we add corn, peas, and other goodies. I am being lazy this year. I am about to revamp how the garden looks after this season. And probably move our greenhouse.

I tried Peanuts last year. They did good, but then I didn't get to harvest them due to that surgery. Ants got them.

I forgot I have garlic too! It keeps growing.


I've got two tomatoes, one is the grape variety and the other is yellow pear, both used in salads mainly and growing them cuz they were on sale at the store and I was like, sure why not, I can rinse off the roots and put them on hydroponics to see how they do, so sort of experimenting with them, I also got beans on hydroponics to see how they do, lettuce and spinach are germinating, I'm looking to grow greens all winter so I'm playing with those to get experience in growing them :-)

My main objective is to specialize in peppers, micro greens too since they're very profitable in my area.
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