so voting is in- 1-5 on killing CIA.
Rationales-
CIA was at war with IMP before Panlv-
A mistake on IMP and CC's part not to declare police before the Dows
Engaging in killing CIA would infact be considered "entering the war" rather than policing.

I was going both ways personally on this mainly because I'm super bored and have 900 chems.
But CC mostly thinks it would be wrong to kill Syko.
Even Mrford who dislikes skyo thinks it would be a fluff move. thats saying a lot

CC did take into account Syko did target just one string,, and imp as a whole didn't target him but when Panlv dow'd he moved onto others in the tag.

It's really a lose lose on our part.

I will say this: if CIA was making that much of a difference or was a war turner, or made the numbers off balance, this would be a very different conversation,

but the fact remains, even with CIA- IMP will win this with no problem (no pun intended Pan).

Imps fighting very well and deserve recognition for their war efforts!


(forgive anything that is typed wrong / grammar ) I've been drinking all night.

Donny....you should kill CIA first and diplomatic talked later...

im not much of a diplomat.
Historically my name is correlated to
fluffhead or asshole. :D


a more similar concept of me would be head of war.
I have no idea why I'm even posting any of this. Akula will be around to do it again in a better fashion probably.
:D

wait, so IMP just got gangbanged then lol

i dont think that means what you think it means.

lol, more than one person hitting it?

your left and right hand at the same time dont count

IMP = 144 vs PANLV+ CIA= 144

large NW differential as well

IMP just wants the easy way out after kicking the beehive

Guess Patriot never learned how to add in gradeschool. Were you homeschooled?

of course it is. multiple parties/entities are hitting it. that's the definition of a gangbang.

either way, i posted it as a joke lol so no need to dive into this.

that's not true. you can ask donny :)

Okay, well how hilarious.

The voting rational makes sense.

But let's split hairs again.

So CC is policing for PANLV and IMP. But can I declare war on CIA and not Panlv?

NBK is policing for us ;)

Looks like I'll just have to continue converting my countries over to more of a war build and give RB his 1:1.

but he's not hitting panlv. he's hitting xciax. nobody is policing for xciax so you'd be in the clear according to the precedent being set here

CIA you can have the FS

I just ran my turns, have pathetic spal, and mediocre SDI

I have nothing but luv for Pan and NBK :)

Double standard.

http://earthgraphs.com/...CxCIAx&warreport=Show

PANLV + CIA networth jumped well beyond IMP's during the FS. To the tune of 400 million of (30%) more NW than IMP. Then CIA had another 16 countries tag (tag jumping?) to join them against IMP.

Listen, I am fine with the situation. But can we just step back and think about this for a minute.

What you are saying, is that in the past, FFA should have evened up every war for the aggressor (aka, attacking side), when they went after a larger opponent, for the sake of a good war. Both PANLV and CIA were the aggressors.

Well, well, well... that sure would have been a nice situation for just about every war I ever lost in my FFA career.

Stats @ the end of FS. http://earthgraphs.com/...CxCIAx&warreport=Show

well we did kick ass and not even bother to take names after >.>

how about you actually win a war and gain some respect before you cry about it and turn more people against you. this war is yours to lose, but somehow you find a way to look like crybabies anyways.

this could be a proud war for IMP, but you are ruining that.

I stated that I was fine with the situation. That is plain for your eyes to see, read, and understand. But, it is logical to point out inconsistency and bias. Remember, we are decedents of the enlightenment where logic and reason set us apart from our primal nature.

It is very difficult to cry using a screen and keyboard. If you can point out where exactly the tears are then I can address the situation.

mrford is stuck on the old IMP

your logic is too specific. and your butthurt too apparent through your debate of semantics and picking apart of common phrases.

you deal with your history every time you enter a diplomatic situation.

i wouldnt waste a single turn attacking someone attacking you, and im not alone. there isnt a magic reputation button, and you arnt helping yourself much with the complaints in a easily winnable war.

the ond IMP is the only IMP people know. you arnt really distancing yourself. saying you are different isnt exactly how things work.

Yes, specific logic is difficult to refute with evidence. I do agree that it is a lose-lose for CC as well. Called in late as police. I hold no grudge against the decision. Just felt in the past secondary tags were almost always kept out of wars between two primary tags.

i dont think logic means what you think it means

the situation is pretty simple. stop fluffing like the little girls you are, and win the war.

Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. Shall we use this definition?

Maybe you just have a standard fluff nature. You complain about everythimg.

Logic that. People don't like your clan. You arnt going to get any sympathy till you fix your reputation. Crying over something that is a non issue, a situation you created, is not going to help your cause. If you had kept your mouth shut and murdered the 2 tags that FSed you you would have gained respect. But you are incapable of that apparently. You have to be the victim. You had to try to bully donny into taking care of your dirty work for you. You changed the narrative of the war from one of pride to one of complaint.

You claim to be enlightened, but you are apparently blind.

sub, you got him ranting lol. you won the argument haha

You think that was a rant? Lol.

you think i think?

Without data, it is difficult to determine how people view my clan. Maybe some people do in fact like us, maybe not. I am not looking for sympathy. This game cares little about reputation, and much about numbers.

It is difficult to cry over the internet. I am still working out how to determine how to cry. Does one need tears, emotion, sad faces, etc.

We are in the process of murdering the tags that have attacked us. In fact, out of 112, there are 7 originals remaining. When those said 7 countries are dead, will we have gained said respect?

Victim is defined as, "a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action", since my health is fine as of this moment I do not believe I am in fact, a victim by definition.

I have yet to speak with Donny about this, let alone bully.

I feel pride in my actions in this war. In this thread, I made no complaint. By definition, complaint means "an expression of discontent, regret, pain, censure, resentment, or grief".

Instead, I asked that we step back and look at the situation. A very different idea and process. That is called reflection. No complaining.

So, as if you would, please come at me bro, with a real argument.

haha BURNNNNN!!!!

Complain some more about how unfairly you are treated.

It might work.

+1 to the chump column for me.

OOOHHH HE'S GOT NOTHING!!!! BYE MRFORD!!!!!!!!

SUB IS THE CHAMP!

btw, i said it in caps so its true

I am just playing. Enough with the thread. If I got fordy's heart beating a little above normal it was worth the time. Cheers you old grouch.

If I were CC's shoes, I would have voted against hitting CIA. Can't blame them.

Sub

I'm fishing on a boat right now. I'm not going to respond to his desperate semantical argument line by line. I just want him to keep complaining.

oh fluff, where are you fishing? fresh? salt?

Salt. Off the coast. Not fluff biting so I came here to fish.

So let me get this straight, now you guys are still dissatisfied with their being no police and are recruiting smegma to FS me? This just shows the poor quality in IMP. I have already requested police if hit.

Well no, that never happened. Smegma mentioned this on his awn accord. Therefore, this shows the good quality in IMP.

Yeah right, your full of it dude. We all know the poor quality of IMP. I know from firsthand experience. Remember I used to play in IMP?!

i am not as dissatisfied as i am with your use of your, you're, there, and their.

Keep attacking the use of my grammar, punctuation and other english usage. You will always gain free points THERE! Because it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers the rest of you! Keep using the same old tired attacks, please don't start getting original on me now. Just use what other people have already used. K thanks Bai.

Police are affirmative, if/when smegma or anyone else hit's me, police will be announced.

Lol. Dude I offered you the first strike. Put your glasses on.

My builds are crappy. So I have two basic options this set. Either continue to get my countries up to speed enough to give RB some kinda fight. Or find a fight that is closer.

What else does one do with crappy builds?