http://www.cnn.com/...yria/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

They don't respect borders, neither should US and "partners".

This is getting old. Whomever wants to see beyond this, will do. I am kinda tired of this type of wars, with media "marketing" before, during and after it.

There was Iraq with the WMDS and dictators ( a.k.a Oil ). Than the submissive Egipt, followed by some soft "revolutions" in all the north Africa,ending brutal in Libya. And now the main target are the oil fields of Iran.
If you can`t see this as it is, and judge it only by what they give you to chew on the TV/media, the discussion is worthless.

However, if you are not in the above category we can talk.

I can understand this wars. Those are happening since people found resources, trade and coins. Is in human nature, to conquer rule and enjoy wealth. Egipt, Romans, te Brits, the French, the Germans (and that ended nasty for everybody, twice), Russia among others. From Romans legions to the late 19 century colonial empires, everybody tried it with diplomacy, brute force or both.

USA is in that position at this moment. But my prediction is this will end nasty somehow. Because USA is already aiming at the plate of others strong nations. Maybe not as strong ( military ) as the US, but close. And economically - sometimes stronger.

Romans conquered because their absolute superiority in the battlefield. Organized Triarii supported by light troops, bows, cavalery and excellent generals. Most of the times they encountered peasants, sometimes unorganized fighters. Rarely they fought battles on the edge, and due to superior tactics and organization every one of them were flawless victories until a point. The blow came mainly from inside the empire.

The colonial empires ( Spanish, Brits, French, Dutch, Portughese). Those basically went with musket or other gun powder power, organized and with a precise goal, over local civilizations that were farming and hunting with bows. The outcome was predictable, submit or else ...

The Germans - using superior tactics,machines and having best trained soldiers (up until a point) and following an ill ideology they almost send the "Game" into the dark ages, with them as a supreme rulers and others as slaves ( if you had the chance to be nominated as a slave and not a plague that must be exterminated). It basically took "only" 80% of the World to ally against them.

And now USA.

Nothing new here really. If you look over history - this is not the first time nor the last.
The problem that i see here is that altought USA is the "lion" there is also a "bear", a "tiger" and a dozen of wolfs out there. And this could end nasty once again. Because the "lion" is already reaching at the plate of the bear and tiger, while the wolfs are near waiting for an oportunity.

The forces are in balance now, more than in any other scenario in the past. That is my main concern seen with the eyes of a ( i hope ) neutral.

Now i don`t understand if some people in this world are just plain stupid, believe that Russia is in into the middle of Ukraine or USA in the middle of the Arabs with any other purpose than resources, influence and finally world dominance. Both Russia and USA media are just marketing tools for this conflicts. It is true that USA are better at making their sources "credible" - but the media is a fluffing tool. You can`t see that? You better wake up out of your sweet dream and better look at cartoons instead of CNN/Voice of Russia.

Or if people just accept that situation because it suits their goal. Or if they are just hypocrites or any other scenario.

But i refuse to believe that people are still buying this war on terror fluff ( or whatever they aim at it with the media) once again.

P.S: i didn`t open TV/any other media "sources" for 5 years now. Only on Discovery alike channels, Sports, or music. I dislike everything else in the local or international news channels. I take my information from "neutral" media/internet/books/history/documentaries.

The whistle on your train of thought is barely fluffin audible.
Your neutral sources of information serve the same purpose as all the latter wars and conficts you outlined. This would be money. If money corrupts like you say, then you can conclude that your very own opinion is unreliable, corrupt and likely incorrect? I really cant think of a media outlet of any kind that isnt motivated by money.
I also call bullfluff on the purity of your viewpoint because you are disconnected from current event media sources. I also think your ate a liar when saying u have skipped the news for five years. If so maybe you would prosper well in north korea.
Lastly given this is about isis, is your argument that isis should be left alone to do as the have been? That is what i got from your history rant, i may reread tomorrow when im not tired drunk to follow up. I doubt it though, cause its fluffing tarded fluff.

Sorry my post is not for retards ... So i will refrain to comment the above.

On a second tought i am going to give it a try with argumented post.

First of all. Why did i called you a retard? Because you are one.
In the last month or so all you did on this forum was to follow some hot topics and post idiotic comments. All culminating with a post in a movie thread, about quotes, where you posted a semi-retard marketing you-tube clip about a silver Chevy.

than the above :



First of all - like i already said twice or "trice" this might not be audible for close minded persons. There is neutral information all over the place. You just have to select it well.

Sven Hassel funny description of a single isolated "battle" that happen in the ardennes is suggestive about what "truth" is. At one point, in one of the forests of the Ardennes, 2, low numbers, scouts teams meet. There was some fire exchange in the dark, followed by a running escape with soldiers of both sides imaging they saw "something"( both teams tought that they reached the enemy tranches). Back in the tranches the germans reported that they meet a entire army digged in the forest while the americans reported sight of Panzers, ready to come in a counter-offensive. The Artillery that followed from both sides was described in the book as epic.

I am sure the story is not 100% truth, but it`s the perfect example of what "truth" means in this world. It depends who the teller of the truth is.

That being said - you had to select the truth out of an ocean of information. My method of media/internet/books/history/documentaries is what i believe to be accurate. And i am 100% sure that is 5 times more accurate than CNN/Voice of Russia or any other popular news channel, out there.

I am disconnected from TV media yes. I am not disconnected totally but i take my information from other places. If you like to be manipulated into strongly believing what someone wants you to believe that sure - open TV on the channel news. You think you are smart, they are smarter. They will put up a picture of a dying children, an oppressed animal if it suits the goal. You know where the most dying children occur ? In central Africa, 10 times more than any place in this world. Do you see Russia, USA or any other international police protecting those ? Rarely to none ...

Am i going to prosper in North Korea? Once again you are a ignorant ass. I came from a country that was under the most severe communism regim in Europe. In my youth ( up to 9 years old ) my country was a communism. You talk about North Korea as the supreme example of communism of nowadays - yet you know fluff what communism means. I can talk about -how bad- communism is/was for days, but not with you lol.

ISIS - i suppose that is a terror group similar to Al Queda. Or even worse ... According to whom?

(as Tito did for so long in the Balkans)

http://www.cnn.com/...yria/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

They don't respect borders, neither should US and "partners".

It's a reasonable guess that Iran will annex the Shi'a rump of what used to be Iraq; the Sunni tribes will establish their Caliphate/kingdom/whatever; and the Kurds will finally have their own sovereign state, with or without the Kurdish parts of Turkey.

How long it will take for this, a hundred years or a thousand, no one could say. That everyone will squabble vigorously over the oilfields meanwhile is obvious.

The Saudi royal family will pursue their own complex interests and interfere in one way or another as will US presidents.

A part of the world to stay away from I think.

Whether Saadam Hussein was a strong enough man to have kept the lid on some or all of it (as Tito did for so long in the Balkans) we will never know.

I know from the start that i can not shake ideas and beliefs. But as soon as at least 1 person ask his self just one question regarding the wall of text i have posted - i consider my 2 hours times waste today a victory :P.

Good day everyone.

THE CANADIAN PRESS -- OTTAWA - Parliament has formally extended Canada's military mission in Libya to the end of September as Ottawa endorsed the country's rebels as the true representatives of its people.

By an overwhelming 294-1 margin, MPs approved the extension Tuesday evening after an exhaustive day-long debate on Canada's involvement in the NATO-led, United Nations-sanctioned mission to protect civilians from dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

Some of you simply don`t understand nothing. And can`t accept others way of gathering news and being. I don`t need to see the Kim Kardashian right part of the "culo" is now bigger, and that a well known NFL player beat a woman or that Victoria Beckham got a new outfit all mixed with the info i want to see.

Part of my source is following blogs of people. Some known some less known but about whom i believe they are neutral. Than follow the debates, interfere with them. I also read a lot of debating from normal people when i have time. I never read one side opinion about what other side does ( altought i do read and talk with people from all the sides).

Than there is always wikipedia, documentaries, books. I don`t freaking need anyone from a box telling me what is happening in this world when i have internet | - * |. I don`t need his gestures, his face expression, his tears and joy ( than i am not always sure are for real or fake) or a picture they chose out of 100 + all the other "small" details that might disrupt me in seeing and forming a well documented opinion.

I don`t need all the above mentioned. And the fact that i don`t watch CNN or voice of Russia does not make me less documented than you are. Some of you must accept that other peoples in different zones of this world have other methods of forming an opinion about anything.

i assume the end-goal is to place western-friendly govts in these states, you know like our good friends the genocidal israelis and the corrupt and backwards saudis, and we'll just keep arming rebels and bombing people until we succeed, in order to grab strategic geographic influence and to maintain western hegemony against china/russia etc

you preach others acceptance of your methods, and yet you are the most closed minded person in that regard i have ever seen. you clearly look down on anyone who has different morals, or lifestyle as you.

you cant have it both ways. you cant preach objectiveness and then act biased. You throw your words and ideals around, but your actions speak louder. surely you can see this lol. maybe the language barrier is playing a role here, because you can not be this idealistic and hypocritical at the same time.

i can already see you are completely objective in your methods. carry on communist!

say what you want about my ideology, you have to agree that that's a perfectly realistic motivation for these military campaigns

Its called Murder and its the only foreign policy the american government has ever had. make up a story or enable a false flag event to gain public support to invade.

ah, so since you think i act biased, then you are justified? your logic here is troubling, however incorrect.

you saying i am racist is rich though. you regress to derogatory remarks against me quicker than anyone, and use a squabble/misunderstanding from 2 years ago as justification. you are a hypocrite. justify it how you want. i havnt even commented on romania in months, if not longer. your justification does not exist. simply go back and look at our arguments over the last couple months. you resort to slander and biggotry almost immediately. you are a hateful little fluff even in serious debates, unlike my trolling.

i recognize anyone's viewpoint, regardless of how much i dissagree with them. i do not accept your hateful and spiteful viewpoint though. Maybe my bias does exist, but to compare it to your warped view of the world isnt even plausible.

Sep 22nd 2014, 10:42:34
Your bigotry is almost as baffeling as your ignorance.

Don't worry. Maybe your country will be as free as us one day and you can stop acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend lol.

and use a squabble/misunderstanding from 2 years ago as justification. you are a hypocrite. justify it how you want. i havnt even commented on romania in months, if not longer

Sep 22nd 2014, 10:42:34
Your bigotry is almost as baffeling as your ignorance.

Don't worry. Maybe your country will be as free as us one day and you can stop acting like a jealous ex-girlfriend lol.

plausible? maybe. likely? hardly. although ill admit i would be more inclined to agree with you if you didnt use descriptive words like genocidal and backwards. those are hyperbolic phrases that kill rational credibility.

you, as many others, have a hyper capable viewpoint of the government. they make mistakes, they act irrationally, just like any other organisation from your local police force to a fortune 500 company.

maybe you are right, and the illuminati are all around us!