Those countries are all restarts - any idea where they were originally tagged?

Whose countries are they? Are they a suicider?

They were already originally tagged CI, they just were killed.
They were killed because a member informed that they were going to try and hit us with the other suiciders, so we just acted first, proof or not I think it was a bad idea, but meh, kill fluff get money get fluffes.

Their country names look like suicider country names, and they've made no appearance on FFAT. The server is better off with them dead.

I had a bad week so I'll be rage killing tonight and if they are alive and in my range, well, detah to em all...

Thanks Rockman. I've been eyeballing them and now we will take action :)

or not, as they self deleted

2012-09-03 18:28:51 GS Give Me (#1690) Mercs hmkjh (#3976) CI 1C 20 F
2012-09-03 17:22:12 GS Altair (#539) Mercs ghf (#4040) CI 3C 15 F
2012-09-03 16:28:18 GS Rigel (#528) Mercs gcfte (#4038) CI 5C 8 F
2012-09-03 14:57:37 GS L (#1419) BadNinja jbj (#4042) CI 3C 18 F
2012-09-03 14:51:13 GS F (#1413) BadNinja 3920 (#3925) CI 3C 9 F
2012-09-03 14:38:18 GS Altair (#539) Mercs lhihyh (#4039) CI 3C 13 F
2012-09-03 09:39:38 GS Avenger (#1030) QC huk (#4041) CI 5C 159 F
2012-09-01 20:22:39 GS P (#1423) BadNinja ykymnn (#3927) CI 2C 23 F
2012-09-01 16:57:12 GS M (#1420) BadNinja kljk (#4037) CI 3C 12 F
2012-09-01 04:41:14 GS STARFARM (#4114) BadNinja fjfbfd (#3926) CI 5C 13 F
2012-09-01 04:32:56 GS (#4099) BadNinja Im Back (#3857) CI 4C 10 F
2012-09-01 04:17:02 GS (#4097) BadNinja bsddbh (#3928) CI 2C 9 F
2012-09-01 03:53:12 GS P (#1423) BadNinja fsxfg (#3977) CI 5C 80 F
2012-09-01 03:38:47 GS L (#1419) BadNinja Deadliest Catch (#3237) CI 1C 10 F
2012-09-01 03:35:01 GS F (#1413) BadNinja Criminal Minds (#3235) CI 2C 11 F

Mostly BadNinja that took them out. No Self deletions.

ahh nice

Look I am on camera!

Booo!!!! greedy baisters! :p

I am trying to decide who has less class. The obvious suiciders or people that would kill on just rumor.

Oh well. Don't know, don't care.

We're not killing just on rumor. We're killing countries that are behaving suspiciously. All they have to do is tag up and post on FFAT, and we'll leave them alone (well, except for XI, Focus, and some other alliances that push around one man tags). Tags like TKO, PANLV, and Mercs have gotten suicided completely without provocation, and we're fed up with it, and we're killing anyone who rejects our offer of a DNH merely for tagging up and letting us know their tag.

If we offer an untagged a DNH, and they refuse it, what are we to expect?

We tried having a complete prohibition of landgrabbing, and then when we got suicided, you called it karma like the dumbass you are.

Why don't you try calling it karma when an untagged refuses an offer for a DNH, and then gets killed for it?

"some people just like to watch the world burn"

CI guy tried to apply to TKO...

So far we have said "no" since the suicider type names and no ffat posts.

However, seeing all his restarts are Theos... I would give the guy a chance to play without being killed.

We push around 1 man tags?

its funny we've killed about 5 or 6 of them this set and not 1 has complained

if they weren't suiciders. im sure we would of heard some crying.

and we have several listed as DNH

Well, you did push around CDS last set. One man tags are also grabbed a lot more by Focus and XI than they are by TKO, PANLV, and Mercs.

I wouldnt say we pushed Ketchup around, we just killed him. it was personal from the smack he was talking earlier in the set. but lets not get into that AGAIN!!

and yeah about the grabs, you guys don't want to get suicided and We wish we would :)

Ya, WaaaaWaaaaa was all Blaaaa Blaaaa

its FoCuS

and i don't think they been pushing anybody around

See there you go with the childish name calling for no reason at all. Are you 9? Are you going to pull my pigtails and tell me that you love me?

If you take the time to read, Emerald said he attacked be he was told he was going to be attacked. aka rumor.

No reason at all? You continually defend suiciders, and when netters get hit, you call it karma. Thats why I don't have any respect at all for you.

Yesterdays news.

So you are saying that you are so childish and immature that I can never ever make a post again without you resorting to that level of immaturity regardless of whom I am talking to and what the topic is?

I was not even addressing you. I was not defending suiciders, in fact, I called them classless.

And yet you still feel the need to be that childish. I bet your mom cannot wait for school to start back up. Even if it is only a half day for you.

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You criticized those who have been repeatedly suicided on for doing preemptive kills on potential suiciders that have refused an offer for a DNH. That's supporting suiciders.

Again yesterdays news.

In this post, all I said was that suiciders were classless, and killing anyone on the basis of rumor was classless.

Yet, you feel that is the need to childishly start namecalling people.

Very disappointing. Not everyone on the planet is going to agree with you young man. And childishly lashing out at them for not is just a waste of your life enegry.

Try to focus on making today a better day, and the world a better place. One day at a time, one action at a time. You will enjoy path that you walk through life much more.

I'm childish? You're the one who started this by calling us classless for killing potential suiciders that refused an offer for a DNH.

Tsk tsk. Reading is fundamental.

Go back and read Emerald's post, then go back and read mine.

Here is Emerald: "They were killed because a member informed that they were going to try and hit us with the other suiciders, so we just acted first, proof or not I think it was a bad idea....."

See nothing specific about potentially being a suicider. Killing all-jetters that won't pact is reasonable. All this says is he acted on rumor.

Now go back to mine: "I am trying to decide who has less class. The obvious suiciders or people that would kill on just rumor."

No defending of suiciders here. And no, calling this action classless is not childish name calling. It is an opinion about one specific action, not a broad over-generalization of one's personality, physical traits, or abilities.

Yet, I cannot seem to make a post without you stalking me and insulting me. Are you stalking me? Have I gotten under your skin so much that you dream about me? Are they erotic dreams with me fisting you and massaging your prostate gland?

Because, if so, I gotta tell you. I don't even think about you. No loss of sleep what-so-ever. Just a meaningless fleck of fly fluff. And yes, that is an childish insult to return the favor.

fixing typos really mucks things up...

darn double posting

Yes, I am stalking you in a thread that I created that you chose to post in, criticizing my alliance's actions.

Is Emerald in your alliance? I was not aware of that. You are in Mercs I believe?

No^^ Emerald is not in Mercs.

My bad... Rockman said that I was critizing his alliance's actions. My only critizism was of Emerald's actions. I naturally assumed. I said nothing about Rockman's actions. *shrug*

Before your first post, I posted the news of the kills on the tag CI, which included 4 kills done by Mercs. You did not specifically mention Badninja by name, your criticism was of anyone who killed suiciders merely on suspicion. And after every single attempt to netgain by Mercs has been ruined by suiciders, we've joined the ranks of those who kill countries merely on suspicion of being suiciders, while also offering them a DNH if they merely tag up and let us know what their tag is.

No. I did not say on suspicion. I said rumor. Even if you scroll up a few posts, I said it was reasonable to kill potential suiciders.

My criticism was strictly about someone killing because that they heard that they we're going to be attacked. That to me is rumor, and if a person chooses to kill someone based solely on that (and the post listed no other reason). Then I have every right to consider that classless.

That has nothing to do with you. Nothing to do with Badninga. Nothing to do with suspicion. Nothing to do with suiciders.

Get over your anger young man.

What is the difference?

of course if you hear a rumor that you will be hit you will take the offensive

And if I told you that Mercs was going to hit XI would you FS them? No, it is rumor. You would consider the source. You have no reason to believe me. You won't not even consider believing me.

If they were potential suiciders, then it makes sense. If it was from a trusted source, it makes sense.

The post does not appear to have any more validity than for me to spread a rumor. And without further details on the rumor, it's background, it's reliability, etc. I have every right to find that action by that individual distasteful.

^^ the difference being... XI & Mercs have FA's and can contact eachother

If XI had offered Mercs a DNH, and Mercs had refused the DNH, then I wouldn't be too surprised if XI FSd Mercs on that rumor.

"trust but verify"

So you're assuming that Emerald's source was not trusted and are basing your arguments in this thread on that assumption

Close partially correct and partially not.

I simply felt it offensive, that one person's word could get a clan killed.

That has nothing to do with killing potential suiciders, it has nothing to do with refusing DNH's. Simply one person's word.

That only applies to clans which are completely anonymous and have made zero attempts to make themselves known. Tags that post on FFAT and let people know who they are get treated differently than tags who never make any post on FFAT.

I am not really sure what 'That' you are referring to. As you state, clearly there is a justifiable difference in clan treatment.

But it still has nothing to do with anything that I have been talking about (i.e. killed on 'rumor').