See....that's why I like Murf....

blah blah blah, bonus

bonus time!

i already got my bonus in another thread.
But i think its doesn't matter for anyone, if i also participate in here.



Bonus time!

I kinda started to like him too, seeing he's the first leader in SoF admitting his clan helped in killing SOL by killing its "potential" allies. It's either that, or, if they deny again any involvement, they killed a netting clan that clearly netted at time, without a reason.

So the problem is that you 2 dont know how to read? NA had a choice as per my post and put themself into it for whatever the reasons

We have received your comments and Murf has been promoted to Chief Whiner Advocate, he will of course retain his old title, but continue to make cry babies happy in the future.

Im not sure if you can read Ivan. Did you see llaars initial post.

NA said that they were netting and to check NA's countries to confirm it if u didn't believe them. Therefore NA chose to have no participation in the coalition. And you hit them anyway.

So either you hit NA cause you wanted to roll someone or you intended to help kill SOL by keeping NA out of the fight and NA made it 100% obvious they were netting, so you you hit NA cause you wanted to roll someone.

Conclussion: You wanted to roll someone so you hit NA.

When I read Ivan's comments, it reminds me of when my kids use their BS excuses for doing teenage crap they shouldn't be doing. It sounds perfectly fine to them and their friends, but not to the adults. If you continue saying the same thing over and over (even if it is BS), you apparently start to believe it.

dumb post

pancake on a bunny! all above posts on this thread are invalid! :P

*runs off*

Funny you mention that Chadius - I was just comparing trying to have a conversation with him and Helmet to having one with my 5 year old son a day or two ago. He's absolutely convinced what he's saying makes sense to everyone, and can't even conceive the notion that he might not quite get it.


I think the argument really comes down to 1 of 3 things in my book...

1. SoF wanted to hit NA all along, and found a convenient excuse in this whole conspiracy theory they're kicking around about a coalition against them, despite evidence a plenty to the contrary, and decided to run with it. AKA SOF = Liars

2. SoF didn't really want to hit NA, but when they heard rumors of a coalition, they jumped to conclusions without checking any facts because of Ivan's long time hard on for anything related to NA. AKA SoF = Idiots

3. SoF felt they couldn't win a war against another war clan, so took the easy way out and decided to FS a netting clan they dislike instead. AKA - SoF = Cowards

Just haven't decided which of the 3 it is yet - although all 3 strike me as possible with that group and my experiences with them.

One way or another, if I were in So, I would be too embarrassed to come to these boards and pound my chest like I had just accomplished something relevant.

lol i posted the real reason

Yes - I've read the great conspiracy theory that the world is out to get SoF. Unfortunately, it just kinda doesn't make a lick of sense if you think about it beyond the consideration you'd give the average excuse.

Where did i mention a conspiracy to get SoF?

I said we killed NA so SoL was fluffed :)

That would imply that NA had intentions of helping SOL, no?

well you were the only FDP they had left that wasnt dying so it was a possibility we werent prepared to let slide

Yeah - those land fat, no missile Reps, Theos and Demos can wreak havoc on your war efforts...

Other than that, I find it just a bit odd that when you want to go coalition busting that you'd choose to take out the smallest, weakest link in the group....but maybe that's just me.

cause Sol and RD were handled and rd was the smallest, NA was only slightly smaller than SOL last set and larger than SoF

You may not have been in a position to fight NOW3P but the potential for mass FA was there

Anyway it's all in the past, SoF has no intentions of warring you next set, that is as long as you dont attempt to FS us again, in which case we'll have to kill you again

Even if NA netted out that set, what would have happened? Would you have grown another 20 members and be refreshed for a war the set after or the set after that? SoL would have demanded your assistance sooner rather than later.

Don't play the poor netter card after allying an alliance that spends its sets hitting netters and getting vengence against those who stand up against them. You ended up trying to get into an argument with iMaG without the will to back it up and sold your soul to SoL so that you could survive. You sat back and watched as LCN and ICN were demolished. You are free to choose who you pact, but you can put this down as another diplomatic mistake.

NA's diplomacy is perfect, thats why they end up dead instead of netgaining

They are breaking our fists with their face.

/does the hakka

well im sure NA is glad u wont be warring them next set.
i guess we will see if its true.

Who's pounding their chests?

ocmatrix - if you think stating you would be embarrassed by something is chest pounding, you're not worth responding too.

lol@Ivan using the word diplomacy.

Helmet - happy to oblige. Better that than listen to you and the rest of the angst brigade over there go on and on about how NA's afraid to fight...

My apologies though - I will certainly do my best to spread word to the rest of the server that netting alliances are not allowed to ally with war clans per the brain train in SoF, else they face SoF's oh so brilliantly collaborated "with us or against us" defense.

I've been fed some impressive lines of bullfluff in my life, I just wish I could say this thread and the related ones were one of the better ones. Who gets credit for the brand new shiny mass FA excuse, btw? It's some of the better spin you've tried so far...

+bonus

Is it me or is there something that doesn't read right with that line? It's late and I need coffee perhaps!

give now3p some ocffee with his whine too, and sure netgaining alliances can ally who they want which is exactly the point NA could have stayed out of it and choosed not to so really dont come whining to us about being FSed you knew that posibility very well
etc etc etc blah blah blah

im done with this thread now

fluff

didnt they try to pact you? isnt that trying to stay out of it?

Spend more time in war chats and less time on AT whining and you might... Win...

actually the mass fa thing is quite a logical excuse

next time we're gonna kill a tag we'll post no reasons and boycott AT, I think it would be fun to see what people come up with lol

yeah....like Ivan could contain his angst rage that long :-P

At least you recognize it's an excuse. You're doing better than your cohorts.

+1

It is what it is. Only cry babies keep talking about something that is said and done. :)

I wish I had the motivation to read all of the whining, but it's only good for a brief skim. hehe

HOLD ME CLOSER TINY DANCER

And only fluffes lie about their true motives when there's no need to - so I guess we're on even ground, eh?

I'm confused

shocker....

you seem very hostile, is everything okay?

hostile no....

not able to be bothered to take you seriously.....yes

and how does that make you feel inside?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N1iwQxiHrs

Show me one post where I initiated "excuse" making or lied. Otherwise, stfu whiner. :)

I dont think that was even directed at you? I believe now3p said he wasnt bothered to take ocmatrix seriously.

sheeze Helmy ... you should go back to skimming threads or ignore AT altogether, lol :P

I quoted the wrong post. :)

Helmet method of posting:

1) Skim
2) Rash Judgement
3) Post whatever I feel like

That's what I was replying to. I think he's just frustrated he can't find anyone to play "politician" with him or anyone dumb enough to feed him what he's looking for. hehe

will we ever find out what happened in the course of those 9 days though???

why did SoF end up FS'ing NA last set in the end???

just want to hear a SoF'er say it

They already said why. Apparently they were were pre-empting an attack from NA on behalf of SoL. (because of them pacting out)

Which is weird, because they say NA can't war worth a crap. So why worry about them coming into a war? lol Were they worried a "fly" of a clan was going to annoy them? lol