Not to chime in on the subject...
Originally
posted by
SakitSaPuwit:
/me raises his hand.
I grew up in Utah. It is unlike any other place in the U.S., I know a couple other of the players have Utah connections also.
Sorry you are so ignorant about this culture. You out spoken bigot.
I spent some of my adolescence in Utah from 1992-1998, and have from 2009 been living in Utah. I am originally from Los Angeles, and have to agree with you there SakitSaPuwit. In being in agreement with that, I will refrain from any comments I have to make that may be construed as bashing.
Originally
posted by
mdevol:
Utah = Mormon state
Mormon = "sheltered"
They are not running around sleeping with whoever they want, they have very high moral standards and they are rather conservative (not politically speaking) thus, they are looked down upon because they possess a different cultural outlook on life than mainstream MTV/Jersey Shore America...
Actually, Utah is quite conservative politically speaking, as a vast majority of the state is Republican dominated, and has been since at least the 1940s. Sure, they may possess a different cultural outlook than the rest of the United States, but they have been known to rally behind some causes that would otherwise impinge on the rights of others.
In 2008, during the state elections in California, Proposition 8 was passed (before it was struck down by the federal court as unconstitutional two years later). LDS members contributed over $20 million, about 45% of out-of-state contributions to ProtectMarriage.com came from Utah, over three times more than any other state. And I am not bringing this up for my own benefit (being a Liberal, lesbian, and of mixed ethnic ancestry). There have been other causes they've championed which would have disenfranchised those of differing race, social class or gender in order to render them effectively persona non grata in Utah or other communities where they constituted a religious (or political) majority.
The LDS church in the past have championed against various rights movements from all the way back to Women's Suffrage to the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s, and ever so recently Gay Marriage. And usually every time national opinion outweighed theirs, their Prophet would have a revelation instructing him to renounce their views and accept a new perspective on the issue.
I hope my comments have been polite, and not considered as bashing the LDS church. I am of the opinion that people should have a right to their freedom of religion, and those abstaining to the precepts of any religious authority should be free in their right to refuse those attempting to push their religion onto others under the thinly veiled guise of moral salvation or the threat of eternal damnation. And if you haven't had a pair belonging to the God Squad at your door at least once in your life asking if they could share "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" with you... you won't get the reference. This also sums up the Jehovah's Witnesses in some fashion as well.