Moderator,

I appreciate your willingness to be a volunteer for a thankless job. You volunteered to help the game and now you are caught in the middle of a discussion with lots of heat and little light. People are upset and angry and the game is being hurt. I also understand that you have not been given the tools to handle disputes in a transparent process. Process is often as important as result because everyone feels that their side was heard. As one who has adjudicated similar disputes countless times in different forums, I would like to suggest the following approach.

First make a finding of fact.
Next determine which if any rules apply to those facts.
Next determine whether the facts constitute a violation of the relevant rules.
If and only if you determine the facts constitute a rules violation then weigh the aggravating and mitigating circumstances.

Publish your finding of fact, your rules determination, your weighing of the aggravating and mitigating factors.

In this case, the facts are not in dispute. mrford posted a spy op of a dead country.
Also the rules are clear and concise. It is illegal to post spy ops.
Check to determine if there is an exception to the rules saying that it is fine to post ops of dead countries.
I see no such exception.

The difficulty in this case lies in weighing the aggravating and mitigating factors.
Even though the fact that the spy op is not a defense to this conduct it might be a mitigating factor. The mitigation is diminished by the fact that the spy op was a good look at the restart which mirrors the dead country. Also in mitigation mrford has been a long time player. Also in mitigation he posts on the forum constantly.
In aggravation, he insults players relentlessly, he insults moderators and the game's founders on a regular basis, he makes frequent references to gay sex and excrement, and his history is well known.

If you then post your decision, not everyone will be happy but everyone will at least feel that they were heard.

forum actions do not have forum repercussions when the moderator will not take action.



this was a clear rules violation, no one disputes that. It is not caution to allow deliberate knowing voluntary rules violations by people with long histories of violating the rules. That is enabling.

Please explain why it is erring on the side of caution to let a serial cheater cheat once more?

There is no exception in the forum rules for posting the spy op on a dead country, the moderator is creating an exception. Probably because he is a friend or some other bias because no objective moderator would allow this.

he wants to grab the early lead and see his name up in green lights at the top

I did that once and was #! in Express for over 27 minutes, quite a thrill

mrford is training four new players right now
so a new strategy is becoming available

hit landfarm five or six times
hit landfarm2 five or six times
hit landfarm3 five or six times
hit landfarm4 five or six times
hit landfarm5 five or six times

you should be at 15k
I am not sure when the mrford prodigies are coming on line but I can not wait

lol

especially study his famous Express strategy and other contributions to the game
hilarious

For anyone reading this exchange, please keep in mind that Celphi is a great chess player with a proven high IQ and mrford is... well if you have read his posts you know what he is.
Remember that restarts are mirrors of the dead country. So by posting the op of a dead country you are posting the op of the restart. mrford has a long long history of believing the rules do not apply to him and the moderators have a long history of enabling that belief.

One of those countries clearly wanted nothing to do with the first strike and was just a netter. You killed a netter who sat out the 3 on 3. After his country restarted he self deleted. Your lies do not cut here.

Only after you got called out did you do anything. As evidenced by your pathetic posts. Although since English is obviously not your first language I should not criticize your posts.

Superfly,
it is not surprising you do not know what clan they are killing because they have not attacked anyone, other than one guy who was just netting. Search the news in vain for any killing by PwD. Their only attack has been on the forum.

These illegal acts can not be condoned or encouraged. If you give cheaters an inch, they take a mile.

ok moderator

it is against the rules to reveal the results of spy ops on the forum
that rule is clearly spelled out in the rules of the forum

both mrford and thunder have revealed the results of their spy ops show that we have rainbow countries

immediate deletion of their countries is for the good of the game to prevent future instances of revealing spy op results on the forum

It was supposed to be about honor and helping friends.
It is clear now that PwD has neither.

at these prices you will need 30K acres.

Do not misunderstand me. mrford and his oily, slime-based type are a curse on modern America but I have nothing against him or that particular personality disorder. I merely point out how no serious discussion of the game can occur with algal brains clogging the works.

Even if this thread start may be sarcastic in nature, there are some people who would like to have worthwhile discussions about improving the game.

and yet another thread which suggests improving the game devolves into mrford insulting people. No surprise there.

My suggestion in this regard is to let the person who started the thread, protect the thread from mrford and his ilk by having the power to delete inappropriate responses from people who do not want to improve the game or the fora. People who can not possibly comprehend the consequences of changing this rule or that rule would not be able to hijack serious threads with worthless words of witless whining.
This change would allow the serious threads to help improve the game, for the betterment of us all.

For example, in this thread all of the posts from PwD would be deleted by archaic and the thoughtful supportive posts would remain.

It is kind of fun warring with PwD, they spend so much time fighting about who is the least honorable asshole that they do not actually war. I only see two of them on the forums so I can not swear that more than 40% of the team are dishonorable unheroic assholes.
Oh sure they come in and kill one guy who never hit anybody. Since then nada, nothing. xBaDx continues to die off while PwD debates with others about how many assholes are on the team. XBaDx will all be dead while the unceasing debate about about the lack of character on PwD drags on. That debate can never end, there may perhaps, perchance be one of you who is not an asshole. Can we move on"
So to the PwD president who thundered on about how he was helping a friend, defending honor, yada, yada, yada, your friends are dying while you prattle on.

It should be clear to anyone reading this thread that no team which counts mrford as a member can be considered either heroic or honorable. mrford routinely insults the moderators and founders of this game. His posts routinely include references to gay sex and excrement. Virtually every thread he contributes to is a string of insults of other players without a single positive contribution. Yet PwD condones, encourages and celebrates this conduct. His constant caustic comments cause countries to cease coming to the game. PwD is neither heroic nor honorable simply because mrford is in their midst. I can not imagine why the moderators allow him to post.

Nobody ever said PwD could not hit whomever they want, the only objection is to the pretense of honor.
Nobody ever cried about getting hit, it is supposed to be a war game. The only objection was to killing a country who never hit anybody and claiming it was for the good of the sever.
Nobody ever "promised" to just net gain, the name is a misnomer. Just like "Heroes" are more aptly called PwD so too the name WWN was inaccurate this set.

Everyone check the news. Grunn did not hit anybody . Ever.

Punks with Delusions, hereinafter PwD, aka Heroes, blindsided and killed Grunn who had not hit anybody and was just a quiet netter. Then they claim they were helping out BaD by killing a quiet netter. How so?

How so?


They are not that stupid. it is an intentional, knowing, volitional lie. PwD dare not fight a full clan so they kill a netter and then try to claim some moral authority.

Hypocrisy thy name is Thunder.

You can not claim the moral high ground when you announced 70 hours ago that you were looking for action. Geez.
You saw a 3 on 3 fight and decided to hop in rather than fight a full clan. That is not heroism that is abject cowardice.
Change your name to Punks with Delusions

Congrats to an I winning, most unusual.
Impressive

it is irrelevant to this issue of setting up a tripartite Express server, let us not get distracted from a great idea.

love it, Marshal

I like the idea of a separate system only make it like tourney. Game B for people who do not understand spies, tanks and troops can play in a current GDI system game and people who have learned those aspects of the game can play in the more advanced tourney styled GDI game, Game A, I love this idea, Mack.

all of mrford's responses, every single one for fifteen years has been an ad hominem attack totally unrelated to the issue at hand.

all I need to know is how to find a country that I can attack at will who will never retaliate and never send missiles

that is a valuable skill in any server

If I actually thought he was cheating, I would have reported it and not simply open a semi humorous thread

and elves, obviously marshal was joking, I got that

All I intend to do is point out that your score is inflated by having a multi who never retals.

I read with great pleasure of the random assassination of serial set jerk.

YES!!

thanks for the effort

I thought Bubba was the first black president?

and of course we have no way of knowing if it was an oversend or not

so far six people have said they agree with changing that and no one has disagreed

I hope that I have been suggesting constructive change and not complaining. As I have said many times, I love this game and appreciate everyone's hard work to run it.

mars2025 express?

Had I been using the royal we it would have been capitalized. I mean the host of people who agree with me both on the forum and in private messages, hence no capitalization. Cable who? I do not hold contradictory beliefs.

I am not on a crusade against the GDI, that would be foolish. I am trying to lift the game from its diminished state.
That includes replacing this creativity crushing GDI with legitimate GDI, the inordinately long DR, and other rules which turn chess into checkers.I hate that when we should be playing a game as complex as chess we are reduced to playing a game as simple as checkers.

That canned, concrete, cretin response assumes that we who seek to improve the game do not join GDI. The problem is not that we do not want to join GDI, the problem is partly that playing as a GDI member is B O R I N G compared to what it once was and can be again.

Some people have suggested that we go play alliance or go play team, tourney or some other server, when those servers get a turn every four minutes, we will. Express at it's best is a fast paced exciting swirling complicated hot mess not a game you check in once every 24 hours and click cash 200 times at the end for the "win". To those who say they can not play every four hours on Saturday and Sunday, I say a game that rewards people for not playing has an internal flaw.

ok update report

this week in express I launched 54 PS as a dictator with all manner of variables including tech, land size differential,
nw differential, hitting up, hitting down, target built up, target not built up, my country built up my country less built up,
target in no dr, target in one and 2 dr, and then spent yesterday trying to find patterns in the data field.

I have to say that hitting a different target every two hours for three solid days ?was exhausting but it was going well until 5AM Saturday morning when I accidentally hit someone whom I had already tapped but forgot to cross off the target list((( and of course that was the guy with 9 missiles lined up in silos.

The results leave me with two questions. How can I maximize buildings grabbed per turn even if it reduces land grabbed per turn? and in my efforts to minimize ghost acreage I need to be sure not to bounce off. What are the odds of success of sending 1% more than need?

As is echolalia...

Transference is an amazing mental aberration.

the idea is not to write a suicider's charter
the idea is to bring back some of the game's fun complexity

I regret the current rule set's blandness

We all seem to agree that randomized mayhem is not good for the game. On Express with its huge turn storage rule, a person can get randomly killed or as happened in this last set can decimate a player who deserved a top ten finish.
Several people have indicated they agree with my proposal, but several people have indicated that they do not understand exactly what I am proposing so I will do this one last thread. Last one.

Under the current rules, the solution to prevent random attacks is built into GDI.
I propose we take it out of GDI altogether. Just like generals will not launch an attack in the last half hour of Express, so to they can fail to launch a GS, BR, AB or missile attack against someone who has not hit the target country. If a player picks a country at random and tries to GS that nation, they will be unable to do so. Random mayhem is banned.

By taking the suicide prevention out of GDI, we can restore GDI to its regular use like in tourney, only it could be optional.

The beauty of this proposal is that it brings troops, tanks, missiles and spies back into the game. The complexity of this wonderful game is restored.

One possible downside to this proposal is that it gives all-x countries an advantage in that they need not worry about any special attacks while people who have attacked have to have some concern about being special attacked.

That is it, simple. Ban random acts and restore GDI

ok
see new thread

temple

we can easily prevent it

generals object to launching strike, like mfrost says lose 1%

if a bunch of us get behind this we can change the rule and make express even better

I know this is complicated. I just suggested we totally ban such hits. You argue that by proposing a ban on all such hits, I am trying to be able to commit them. I am reminded of an old Star Trek where the immensity of the illogic simply shuts down an alien robot and Kirk sails off to other misadventures.

Mr Ford, you have admitted several times that you can not keep up with all the rule changes. That is no where more obvious than in discussions about GDI.

There is a huge difference between the current Express GDI and tourney GDI and the GDI Express once had. Perchance if you played something other than a punching bag who then randomly suicides on someone, you would realize that.

no that is why you need suicide prevention rules
they can be in general refusals not gdi