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Pilky

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Mar 14th 2018, 16:58:51

Hey all. I used to play earth back when I was a teenager and just signed up again on the Primary server. So cool to see the old screens again :)

Back in the day I was a "rainbow" player in that I would just buy and build whatever. I had tons of playing that way and it was until my last game or so where I learned of the strategies.

Anyhow after finding this site I am trying the industrialist strategy again and have a few questions:

1) I am currently producing 95% turrets and 5% percent spies. I have no jets, tanks and troops. Should I change my percentages at some point and start producing them or do I buy them on the market?

2) On turns where I don't have enough money to build, i have been cashing to get money then I'll go back to building. Is this correct?

I'm sure I'll have more questions along the way but that should keep me straight for now.

Thanks!

Marshal

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Mar 14th 2018, 20:16:39

your money should come from sales not from cashing turns.

https://www.earthempires.com/...duction-breakdown-32313?t
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Pilky

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Mar 14th 2018, 21:02:49

Originally posted by Marshal:
your money should come from sales not from cashing turns.

https://www.earthempires.com/...duction-breakdown-32313?t


Thanks for the link.

As far as money goes, I sell all that I am able to on the market but still will run into the situation where I don't have enough money to build my maximum buildings per turn.

Marshal

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Mar 14th 2018, 21:05:40

you should sell 2-3 times per day.
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Pilky

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Mar 15th 2018, 10:22:32

I have another question regarding the market:

Along the top there are the following headers:

Item You Own Best Price Asking Available You can buy


What exactly does the 'Asking' column represent or mean?

Marshal

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Mar 15th 2018, 14:01:57

asking is standing order(s) put by other player(s) on a price they want (usually buy on cheap and sell at high). those can be ignored unless you need quick money in few hrs and at normal price goodies might not sell as quickly as you need.
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Pilky

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Mar 15th 2018, 18:08:56

Originally posted by Marshal:
asking is standing order(s) put by other player(s) on a price they want (usually buy on cheap and sell at high). those can be ignored unless you need quick money in few hrs and at normal price goodies might not sell as quickly as you need.


Oh man that was driving me nuts! Excellent info, thank you!

Marshal

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Mar 15th 2018, 20:24:30

np
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I AM BATMAN

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Mar 16th 2018, 17:40:53

USE THE BAT SIGNAL TO CALL FOR BATMAN!

Marshal

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Mar 16th 2018, 20:20:01

to kill batman
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I AM BATMAN

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Mar 17th 2018, 20:27:55

YOU CANNOT KILL BATMAN BECAUSE
BATMAN!

Marshal

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Mar 17th 2018, 22:36:37

best strat is to kill batman asap.
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Pilky

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Mar 17th 2018, 23:40:02

Marshal, do you play in Primary?

Marshal

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Mar 18th 2018, 10:25:45

no.
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archaic

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Mar 18th 2018, 15:28:25

Marshal does not play anywhere and taking advice from him on the strategy board should be done at your own risk.
CandyMan: stop doing KR on our originals.

Marshal

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Mar 18th 2018, 15:51:33

well i don't see you giving any advices.
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not marshal

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Mar 19th 2018, 0:22:34

advices or not advices that is the question

Pilky

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Mar 21st 2018, 10:33:11

Is it ever viable to sell tanks and troops on the market?

I'm asking because I noticed that there are none available on the market. So I'm thinking either it's a good time to start producing them to sell or that it's not worth it because no one else is selling them.

Marshal

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Mar 21st 2018, 14:51:23

yes but mostly jets and turrets.
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Pilky

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Mar 21st 2018, 23:39:00

Couple more questions for ya if you don't mind:

I recently accepted a defence alliance from someone who had only turrets. :O I may be mistaken, but I thought I've read before that some people have run countries without attacking. Am I mistaken? If not, what do they do with the majority of their turns?

At one point should one consider to give up on exploring and begin attacking for land? (Primary server, Communist-Industrialist)

Thanks for all your help thus far

Marshal

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Mar 22nd 2018, 14:04:21

there is no right answer when to start grabbing land, some start it after 1st batchexplore and some later or earilier.

its possible to play w/o attacking and just doing batchexplores and building up.
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Pilky

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Mar 26th 2018, 1:14:40

Are there any general attacking guides online? I did a search and didn't come up with much.

I'm looking for general guidelines, don't necessarily need specifics


Not really sure how much to send etc.

Marshal

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Mar 26th 2018, 12:24:03

Standard Strike Strength WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4) + min(WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4), 0.25 * (AlliesTroops + AlliesJets*2 + AlliesTanks*4)) where min(value1,value2) = lower of the two values

Planned Strike Strength SS Strength * 1.5

and 10% of pangqz-factor

to get most out of landgrab attacker and defender need to be quite close eachothers in nw.
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Pilky

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Mar 27th 2018, 10:25:32

That's quite the formula lol

Thanks

Marshal

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Mar 27th 2018, 13:06:43

np & yw
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Pilky

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Mar 28th 2018, 18:59:39

On the eestats.com site, when looking at a country's attack history it shows the "Result" column and for example it shows: 301A (600A)

I'm assuming one of them is what you the attacker gets, but not sure about the other

Marshal

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Mar 28th 2018, 19:56:57

base land from defender and total land generated by ghost acres.
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Pilky

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Mar 30th 2018, 11:25:11

The last column on earth stats is DR. Do you know what that stands for?

Should I be destroying the buildings I get from attacking other countries or just leave them there? (I am commie/indie)

Marshal

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Mar 30th 2018, 13:10:06

diminished returns where each attack lowers returns from landgrab and eventually returns are 10 acres per attack so lower dr number is better gains attacker gets.

destroy all non-essential buildings to chosen strat and build up unused land as essential buildings to chosen strat.
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Pilky

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Mar 31st 2018, 2:45:00

Once again, thanks. Your answers are super helpful.

Marshal

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Mar 31st 2018, 9:04:19

if you get oil rigs when grabbing land then keep those.
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Pilky

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Mar 31st 2018, 16:25:26

Originally posted by Marshal:
if you get oil rigs when grabbing land then keep those.


Keep oil rigs, destroy everything else and convert to industrial complexes. Got it

Marshal

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Mar 31st 2018, 19:23:59

having rigs or not depends price of oil.
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Pilky

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Apr 1st 2018, 11:14:38

I'm going to keep what I get as they seem to just steadily rise in price

Marshal

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Apr 1st 2018, 14:45:28

that's cuz oil can be used to regenerate units to prib mkt.
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Pilky

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Apr 2nd 2018, 2:14:41

Oh wow, I didn't know that. They didn't have that option back when I used to play


When purchasing technology from the market, your allies don't get any benefit from that, right?

Marshal

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Apr 2nd 2018, 13:19:24

nope, if you get techs by buying or stealing from other countries your techallies get nothing.

oil to units is new thing introduced bit long ago to help oiler strat.
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Pilky

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Apr 2nd 2018, 15:36:52

ahh so it's pointless for me to get a research ally as i wouldn't give them any benefit as an indie

Marshal

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Apr 2nd 2018, 20:26:32

you get to leech from them.
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Pilky

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Apr 3rd 2018, 2:06:43

i'm a team player :D

Marshal

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Apr 3rd 2018, 12:57:11

if your tech ally is your def ally then leeching can be seen as payment from providing protection to ally.
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Pilky

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Apr 8th 2018, 2:07:12

So it looks like a standard strike captures 3-8% percent of your opponent's resources. Is it know how much more a planned strike captures?

I'm wondering if it's worth it to planned strike someone if i could easily get through on a standard strike

Marshal

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Apr 8th 2018, 11:33:21

well you send more forces with ss so you capture more but also use more oil and units.
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Pilky

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Apr 19th 2018, 2:03:07

Is military strategy tech worth buying?

I'm starting to notice i am building up a lot of money.

I have been purchasing the following tech:
Residential, Business, Weapons, Industrial and a little Spy and Warfare.

Anything else i should consider?

Marshal

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Apr 19th 2018, 13:54:50

military tech too

military strat if you attack (you gain more from attacks)
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Pilky

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Apr 24th 2018, 1:18:28

Alright, Marshal you've been super helpful to me this whole set, I appreciate it.

The end is near and I am no long able to stay in the top ten even after i use my turns (which is fine, i'm happy i got this high)

I'm now just wandering what the typical end game strategy is? Do you just keep attacking all along? Send all your missiles to the guy above you? keep all military or sell it? buy tech? I've also seen mentioned about stocking/de-stocking but i have no idea what that is/involves

Marshal

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Apr 24th 2018, 13:28:52

stocking is buying bushels with excess money (keeping enough in hand to survive 2-3 days) gotten from taxes (casher) or selling (farmer, indy, oiler, techer) and putting those on market at high price (several hundred bucks) and before set ends that stock is spent on military (either public or private depends which is cheaper) until country is moneyless. depending amount of stocks and land when destocking starts.

usual way today to get high nw is to get alot (tens/hundreds millions) oil and after last turn given buy priv empty from military and put max military etc on sale at any price and then switch to mono and build 1-100 military bases and destroy rest buildings and drop land to 1-100 acres and switch to theo and recall everything on sale and use oil to generate priv market units and buy those and if some money left then spends that on public market (techs).

attacking is pointless since humanitarian range gets tighter on every turn after set has 30 turns left
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Serpentor

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Apr 25th 2018, 3:40:32

As an Indy you don’t need to stockpile on the primary server. Just keep attacking until about 10-12 days left (about now), and cash turns for the remainder. Sometimes you run out of safe targets to hit earlier than that, and that’s ok.

Important thing for your strat is keeping up with your tech. You should try your best to keep these important tech levels all set long:
Indy 155%+
Bus/Res 168%+
Weapons 135-140%
If you’re falling behind, it’s better to do one less grab that day and focus on selling the extra jets to buy tech. Once your tech falls behind, it’s hard to catch back up. Stay efficient all set long.



Personally I like doing a tech start, and get all my relevant techs maxed before I grab. I’m usually 5,000 acres behind the lead when I do convert my labs to indies and start grabbing, but I make that up in no time, and usually end up way ahead by running efficiently all set long.

If you choose to tech start, I found the most effective way is to get 40bpt with 3800 labs. Tech to max your: bus/res/Indy/warfare/mil.strat/weapons
By then you have to convert back to indies and get grabbing.

-With the mil strat you get 35% more acres per grab
-that bit of warfare will provide you all the missiles you need all set long to ward off multitappers.
-the bus/res at 168% or not will keep you in positive cash flow all set long until the end.
-weapons tech is your 2nd most important tech since it allows you to send 40% less jets per grab letting you grab more and sell more to build and buy tech.
-Indy is easy your most important tech

-as the set goes on you need to start buying military tech, since your military will be so huge, you need it to lower your expenses.




It’s inefficient to sell troops and tanks, just make what you need and sell the jets/turrets only.

I usually set production all set long to:
10%spies
8% tanks
2% troops
And 80% jets/turrets

That will give you a good enough spal to not be losing tons of spies to failed ops, and have more tanks than most everyone in the game to protect from ABs.


Do that and you can easily PS 3-5x a day all set long and grow huge.

Good luck.
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Pilky

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Apr 26th 2018, 1:43:06

Great info, guys I appreciate it. I'm interested to see how I finish this set. Will definitely be a lot more prepared for the next one :)

Serpentor

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Apr 28th 2018, 0:05:23

Message me in game next time. I’ll compare with you as we go.

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