I take the fight to which ever server matters to the other party. If people are coming here as a joke to fight then fighting back is pretty useless right?

The difference between now and then at least for me is that back then 1a was my main server and limited was a secondary server.

So back then the idea was "try to kill them in limited" whereas now the retal method we've been using successfully against the "i don't give a fluff about this server" people is "suicide them in alliance" :)

oi! we had a retal outstanding against him ;)

love the jon stewart bit on how romney reacted to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIGbS5YoD4 :)

ignore the MSNBC crap in that vid

sucker

It's not a "Fist suicide," SAMCRO isn't made up of Fist members.

Secondly if you have members that farm untaggeds 30/40 times, you probably should consider setting some sort of MMRs.

death to axa

When LCN FSed iMag OOP mostly by farming them, LCN had like half of the top 10 land countries in the game when SOL FSed them. It can be done...

well they had a 3 sets of war against ICN about a year back. they lost one of the wars as well which was the funniest part.

not me, I'm just the broker of relationships here

you didn't accept him!

I told him you wouldn't recognize the name ;)

I didn't say Eastern Europeans don't like the US, I said they don't really owe the US anything. Of course that's maybe different in the Balkans (frmr Yugoslavia) where you'll probably find the strongest anti and pro American sentiment in all of Europe and where some countries owe their existence to the US.

PS: Railed through the region early this summer. Mostly hit up capital cities so it's not that representative. Some of your "Eastern European" countries (Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland etc.) are basically western now. And that's apparent in the views of the younger people.

lmao. "America's intentions are always noble" is basically what you're saying here.

Get a fluffing clue, the Philippines was a US colony for 40 years and didn't like it. (trust me, I'm here right now) Cuba was basically a colony for 60 (the government would get overthrown once the US stopped backing it) until they had their revolution and freed themselves. And you can't smoke Cubans because your government doesn't like the idea of Cuba not being owned by United Fruit or whatever.

In response to your "these countries would be speaking German," it once again demonstrates my point about American arrogance perfectly. If the world had got to the point where the Canadians or Cubans were speaking German, then the fluffing Americans would be speaking German.

And finally, as for your "maybe we should be isolationist" - maybe 3 million dead Vietnamese people would've agreed with that sentiment? The US isn't "universally good" - whether or not US involvement has been beneficial depends on where you're from. For most of Western Europe, it was probably for the best. Eastern Europe owes you nothing, communism was as bad for them as Nazism... besides, they were liberated by the Russians, not the Americans. For Northern Europe, there was no US involvement. We fought Stalin on our own. For many in Latin America, the US has been a disaster and colonial oppressor for 200 years now, working for the interests of its own companies instead of the people there.

So basically, stop being arrogant. Out of curiousity, how many of these countries have you been to? From my experience, the Vietnamese like the Americans (well as much as they like most other tourists) but dislike what they did during the war ("but the people in power are different now"). Ditto the Philipinos. Cubans dislike the people on the whole but generally like the individuals who visit.

@CK: your "solutions" to healthcare/welfare/education are nice but as we saw when obama tried to fix healthcare they will be fluffed up by congress. until that can be fixed, "LESS MONEY" is not going to work. you need a good solution... that will actually be implemented

@trumper: you've done nothing to address the fact that the poster could have been a citizen of the many countries that have been fluff on by the US and not been saved. (hence arrogance)
as for your point about saving the US - when did the US NEED to be saved?
from a non-military point of view, british/german investment and free trade policies in the mid 1800s (before protectionism kicked up again) were pretty important in helping the US get set up economically.

The US isn't the best in healthcare by any stat that matters unless "any stat that matters" refers to any stat about corporate profits or quality of care for the richest 20% of the population. As for education... get real. Public schools aren't desperately competing with each other/ private schools for funding in Finland, South Korea, Japan or New Zealand (OECD PISA top countries). For all the masturbation that right wingers do over the Swedish system (competition, private&public schools etc.), Sweden is a mid-table country in that.

The welfare system doesn't intentionally give money for nothing. There are problems within it that need to be solved. You can't just say "LESS MONEY" and hope that fixes the problem like the teabaggers are trying ot make it out to be.

Buffett is giving his money away to charity at the end of his life. I'd say that's a more worthy cause than the US government. And "make it tougher for people to follow him"? Seriously? You think there are people in the world who SHOULD have a billion dollars? fluffing ridiculous. No one needs that much money and it would be much better used on helping the poor. And I'm pretty sure that the effect on entrepreneurship and corporate governance of a hypothetical 100% tax on all wealth above $1bn (not that I advocate something taht extreme but I'd support a wealth tax of some sort anyway) would outweigh the social benefits of handing out the money you're delusional about the motives of entrepreneurs and the supply of good executives.

Arrogant is the right word. The OP's comment made it out to seem that the US has saved every country in the world. Definitely not the case. I'm from a country that the US basically sold to Stalin at Yalta/Tehran. In the end, we didn't get Marshall Plan money, avoided communism on our own and paid back our debt to the US as well as reparations to the SU. No thanks to America.

And citizens of a lot of Latin American/Middle Eastern countries have a lot more reason to hate the US than be grateful.

So yes, it's arrogance - the majority of nations in the world probably weren't "saved" by the US (not that the Soviet Union, Britain, France etc. didn't do anything in World War II either)

Hate to break it to you but the US has to reduce the deficit and it's going to hurt either way you do it. Yeah ok you see the effects of tax raises directly on you but the US already has healthcare and education that lag behind the a lot of rest of the "developed world" and you can't just keep cutting back on those. Ok maybe you can cut defense more etc. but there is more than enough room to raise taxes in the US, especially on the rich as Buffett said

What I really don't understand is the insane anti-tax mentality that these teabaggers seem to have. It's just... like from another planet.

pfft exaggeration.

KSF this set as well...

For some reason I don't think the "threat" of war is much of a deterrent for xChaoSx ;)

i didnt apply for wrath :(

i was in chaos though!

wog sucks

Now that I think of it, part of it is because you come across as a 14 year old when you post. An immature 14 year old.

Read the thread smarty, it's not just me ;)

In this case it's because you were whining about a fun pre-arranged war (waah spy ops, waah numbers advantage) and then you make a post basically crediting the whole war effort to numbers advantage which just comes across as bitter and unwilling to acknowledge anything the other side does well (which was a lot of things) or any flaws with the SoF strat.

Why do I troll you in other cases? Because usually when you post it comes across as very stupid. Consistently.

IVAN BIG! IVAN STRONG! CRUSH KILL DESTROY THOSE WHO INSULT IVAN!

poor you Ivan because if we hadn't done those 3 spy ops before the war started, we would have lost.

it's a good thing you complained so much about them.

poor Ivan :(

you promised not to call Ivan stupid publicly! he's quite sensitive about that.

dissecting the average Ivan post:

*whining*
fluff
*whining about being called a whiner*
fluff

man you are like the biggest whiner on these forums.

trife = detmer

my only real issue with LaF's grabbing is that they grab your retallers back with different countries and claim that it's not a RoR because they didn't send a message

the rest of it is fair playing and if you have countries with stock just jump and make them pay, you can take back all their gains in 1 hit and make them lose land by the second.

At least we aren't tagged up with the biggest cheaters in the history of the game acting as their personal landfarms so they can send each other into the top 10.

gay for including your own referral link in the coutnry think ;)

keep on trucking, Speaker

(as if anyone would ever want to stop trucking)

Yeah sorry about that, didn't know the backstory

what about 575?

Also just noticed how he also farmed #567, another deleted country and once SoF member.

Even if the game mods have him as legit, he seems to be benefiting quite a bit from others cheating.

Fair enough, looks like he's clean.

Though since #575 remains deleted, the land he farmed off of him is a bit "tainted"... if he does get a top spot, I'm inclined to think of it as similar to if the RD guy does.

Spawn's an FFA mod idiots, hence he still reads the forums and follows what goes on in the game.

lol@whining Xeno. We made one post about SOL and iMag, followed by 4 iMagers coming here and crying. Sounds kind of like you guys might be a bit more upset about SOL than you're letting on ;)

How's being SOL's landfarm working out for you?

Similar comments for LaF as for LCN

Collab is closer to the group currently above them than the group they're in.

LCN should be top of their group simply because if they would probably beat Evo/Omega in a war and come close for TNW during a netting set.

SOL has a track record as a leading alliance - SoF has one set.. at the very least, that warrants a tie.

It's sad that you're sucking up to Ivan of all people. Must be desperate for that pact, huh?

If you ignore the previous set because it was just one set, Ivan's legacy at the helm of SoF involves taking it from SOL's sidekick to an alliance stuck in a grudge war against ICN, culminating in SoF having to call in iMag because they were getting creamed by ICN.

I'd say those 4 sets he had in charge are a lot more indicative of his leadership ability than the fact that he got lucky and a lot of vets responded to his recruitment email.

heh. you'd expect a clan that killed a country that was FAed to the top to be the last ones to do this, but I guess those comments about SoF not knowing how to net actually affected them. how cute is that?

Don't you have a buyout to organize?

Positives:
At least this looks like a genuine dispute instead of RAGE declaring on LCN because their netting set was not going well

Negatives:
Having done FA with RAGE before, I fully understand why an LCN member would suicide them based on their initial reaction to the incident - if your member suicides someone else, you have to deal with it and fast instead of telling the other clan to kill the country and taking your time with reps. The blame for this war is probably 90% with RAGE.

heh go Monsters

heh go SOL - 1 week and iMag is tagkilled? :)

also what joe2 said, except in a more general sense. for all the talk about how imag likes dying its funny how their wars tend to be against defenseless netters or on the outnumbering side in a gangbang.