I think I’d rather say your feathers have an uncanny similarity.

Also, looking at the news this set… I’d say there’s a flock of you with that similarity.

Probably a stray flock that flew in together from a different server?

So it doesn’t matter who puts in more effort? Nice!

How I wish your logic applies to work as well. Everyone gets paid the same no matter the effort or result they produce. If someone is doing better than the rest, we have to knock them down a notch. We can’t have hard working people who puts in effort to improve. We don’t need the innovation that these type of people bring about. That will only bring dissatisfaction among the people because “equality”. Better yet, just strip them of what their hard earned reward and share it with the rest who didn’t put in the same amount of effort because “equality”!

I suggest everyone gets $500,000 yearly every year regardless of what they do because “equality”! The current social security system that’s taxing working adults to give to people who aren’t working is not enough! The system should tax the working adults so they will get the same amount as those that are not!

I love the way you think! I can just stay home and get paid for doing nothing! Everyone should be able to do that because everyone should have that choice!

I do understand all that I think.

I just don’t really get how the destocking portion works for a 12k country I guess. I looked at the history and i can’t make any sense of it. There was only one big jump at 12m to 18m nett which means you(nitiel) bought out your PM at that point. After which the increase was gradual meaning you were buying off the public market mostly no? If you were buying off the public market, how can you resell half your military and make any sort of significant nett gain as a techer on 12k land?

I’d understand if you were a casher, farmer or commi because the reduction in military cost on these land fat strats makes a significant difference, but on 12k land? I just don’t quite get it.

Also, gerdler just pointed out that you’d probably need to jump a lot early as a “thin” country to catch the best prices which you did not. As far as I can tell, you were still buying and gaining nett till the last few hours of the set.

I have not learned enough playing this game to fully comprehend this. I’d like to learn so I don’t have to spend the entire week sitting for targets to get out of DR. Lol

Damn... look at all these insanely high nett records. Really feel like coming back and trying for a 100m nett. Hahaha

I’m still having problems understanding how you guys get it honestly.

Like this set for example. Nitiel said he played the food market and only did one military resell for this push.

I’m wondering how much you can really make from the food market. You probably earn $2 from each bushel as a demo reselling food, you need to resell 500m bushels to make 1b. The entire set sold roughly 800m bushels so 1 person reselling 500m bushels is kinda hard for me to grasp. Also, how much nett can 1b cash get you?

Then his 1 military resell. From EE records, he did this resell at the last day of the set. He’ll definitely get tons of cash on hand but my question is where does he spend it. At his land size, he’ll wipe out his private market and still have billions on hand. He’ll then have to rebuy the military at the same prize he sold them for roughly so that won’t increase his nett too much.

Also, checking from his country’s history, he did most of his teaching at 9-10k land. How much tpt is that? How does he make so much cash to make such a big jump with so little tpt? He also needs to buy bushels to resell with this tpt.

I just can’t seem to wrap my head around these questions. Could someone here please help me out? 😬

Wow! 50k land in express. Definitely not an easy task. No one really had the chance to get that far around the time I was still playing. You’ll have some all jetters top feeding all the fatties. 😭

I want to play too. :(

Grats CX on another win. :)

You do the spy ops, get caught, go to war, you both lose.

You do the spy ops, don’t get caught, you gain 8m a turn when you should be getting more than that had you spent the turn cashing or teching. If you make less than that then you’re not even in the competition.

I don’t seem to get where the ‘good’ in that strategy is.

Maybe if you’re trying to pull down a player so your ‘buddy’ can win. If you’re doing that yes, spy ops is a pretty decent strategy. You slow down your target and provoke him to go to war at the same time.

Is that what you’re trying to promote?

Breaking 60m is breaking 60m.

Also, I would argue that the strat difference was negated by that top feeder playing this set. Haha.

Demo farmer would be extremely difficult I believe due to the bots and small player pool.

Grats on breaking 60m!

Maybe I should try to break 70m as a casher or Indy. Broke 60m with a demo casher before. Should be able to break 70m with the right market conditions... theoretically.... After a few tries... if I can find the time. Lol

Say the loss of land from the ‘grab’ is 1000 acres.

At 60 bpt, that’s 17 turns wasted.

If it was a top feed, you lose a few CS. Say you lost 2 CS.

Calculate the cost of building 1000 acres at whatever land size you are on.

Loss of military/tech and production. Cost that in.

Then multiply by 2 for you to rebuild/re-buy military and tech then add 2 turns for the retal and 2 turns for spy op.

Now factor in the fact that you’re playing with a handicap of whatever turns wasted due to that 1 ‘grab’.

Does that not ruin or at the very least pull back your chances of finishing above 60m nett?

Of course, if you’re only aiming to finish above 40m, then 1 or 2 ‘grabs’ on you won’t make much difference.

Troops as you know is out of the question because of the lower nettworth per unit.

Jets and turrets do have the same nettworth but.... turret’s upkeep is higher which means you need more cash per turn.

Keeping your upkeep as low as possible is really important I feel.

Also the grabbing. I may be wrong but with bots around, I think one should be able to get 40k land with about 40-45 grabs. If compared to your total grabs, it would mean 50 turns saved. Now multiply that 50 turns with what you were producing per turn when you were jumping. How much nettworth is that? :)

I have not played Indy in a very time but I do believe that you shouldn’t be finishing with 16m troops. If I remember correctly, jets should be the units you are producing when using those stored turns to jump. Jets gives you the best nett per turn as an Indy.

Like everyone said, grats to the TT but finishes are surprisingly low though. :(

Dictionary result for collusion
/kəˈl(j)uːʒ(ə)n/Submit

noun
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others.

I decided to create the country by my lonesome without talking to anyone about it throughout the set. No one knew that was my country.

By taking out a blatant griefer, I’m helping the entire server. Am I colluding with the entire server?

I was Celphi Farmers Killer. I wasn’t going to be able to finish the set (wasn’t intending to even play till I saw your country name which I found irritating) so I thought I’ll take over trash duty from Celphi for a set so he can net gain in peace for once.

Was happily farming you and dropping the land when, “you had one of your “friends” create a country to go after me”.

Just had to report you & your “friend” to live up to my country name after that. Haha.

Where should I be going? I’ve got tomorrow free. I don’t drink, a fact I presume everyone here should be able guess from the way I always have my panties up in knots when I post stuffs here. Haha

Just landed in Sydney. Grats to the winner and top 10.

I’m jealous. I couldn’t get a win even back when I broke 40m.:(

I blame CX. :p

looking at all the crazy attacks/SS again this set, i'm glad i'll be on a plane this weekend. lol

i don't know about the actual % but at 30300 land, i bought 1,200,000 military tech points to sell bushels at $36. :D

you probably work for CNN don't you?

i ain't american but CNN is rather infamous for putting out snippets of news just to control how viewers see things, not really bothering about the truth. right? :D

if you only take this post then yes, these types.

but if you're anything like most alternative media, you'd do little more digging to get the entire story, then you may things differently. :D

things you post on the internet do really come back and bite you don't they? :D

thanks koh. i feel like im talking to myself here. my surname is 'Koh'. lol

hope i'll be around to see you back at it banks. :D

honestly, i kinda agree with all 3 of you on it being all about farming bots as efficiently as possible now but i don't feel that GDI is the problem. its the turns. being able to store 360/360 is the problem.

the turns changed everything. gave suciders the extra 'oomph' needed to do irreversible damage and normal players with no way of defending.

GDI actually helps the game by stopping suicides unless you double tap. without this, and if you can just declare war, then you are basically dead man walking. any suicider can just declare war on you and poof, there goes your set. these morons will usually suicide just about anyone who is better than themselves because they are probably jealous (i'm guessing) that they can't finish well and too stupid to learn or try to improve.

or, a suicider can be 'helping a friend' by suiciding another top player so that his 'friend' can finish tops. that's what i felt happened like crazy back then before this new GDI and bots came to play.

also, yes. my current play style is specifically design for bots as i try to "Don't complain. Assess & adjust." (Originally posted by LATC) but i still can't think of a way to adjust to the +50% PS strength even without allies which i feel is really broken. :D

the only way so far to counter these morons who abuse the +50% PS strength just to go on a topfeeding frenzy and ruin another player's set is to TRY stay relatively thin till i can jump to 15m turrets. and that's still not enough sometimes. there is no way to really defend. the only defence is their stupidity but its also that stupidity that leads them to try and ruin another player's set for no real reason.

thanks people!! really appreciate it! :D

i got real lucky with reselling as casher and i really spent a ton of time this set. haha

i played the way Banks played his 1 acre under protection demo and also got some advice from CX on pricing units for the last resell. :D

broke 50m last week broke 60m this week, 70m the next? hahahahah. im still dreaming. lol

won't be around to even try. will be on a plane following weekend. :(

all the best to you guys in the following sets. :D

thanks assassin :D

you'd have done alot better if you hadn't lost that 2600 acres to that topfeed. :D

1 Rainbows End (#35) 30,300 $63,064,147 DG
2 Jetted up (#94) 32,501 $44,133,360 CG
3 TiaNamAli (#53) 22,308 $31,806,388 CG
4 sfbob23 (#34) 25,326 $30,015,171 CG
5 NEETXIS (#16) 14,477 $28,817,110 IG
6 Please Hammer Dont Hurt Em (#59) 32,795 $28,802,379 CG
7 LegalizeM3th (#109) 19,270 $27,957,279 DG
8 Just Do It (#43) 17,028 $25,457,345 TG
9 WTF AM I DOING AGAIN (#27) 13,966 $25,439,956 HG
10 Global All Jetter Protection (#15) 18,754 $24,121,085 DG

claiming 1st. :D
after 8 sets of trying, finally won 1 and got a good finish along with it. :D

EFN: It is obvious that you are partial. Communists do not negotiate with anyone, especially democracies. The World Trade Organization does not want to recognize gross violations of established trade agreements, so we must fight to protect our sovereignty. Many communists around the world welcome my actions and achievements.

st0ny: yes, i see things very differently. i don't have in depth knowledge of the violations. share a few of them with me? i'm always open to new knowledge.

EFN: I can not see it attaining its goal that a democracy normally wants, or its goal to kill my country. He bragged about his death count and that I should follow his profile. Maybe you misunderstood the quote.

st0ny: did his bragging come after or before you multitapped him?

EFN: "All men can see the tactics that I conquer, but what no one can see is the strategy of victory."

st0ny: again, what tactics and strategy are you referring too? honestly, all i see was you instigating a war then got your ass whopped.

EFN: "The ability to defeat the enemy is provided by the enemy himself."

st0ny: true in most cases but not this time around. your enemy, celphi, did not give you anything. he was smart enough to save turns and not break GDI.
you on the other hand, did not join GDI and multitapped which would've broken GDI anyway. "The ability to defeat the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." you gifted celphi the ability to defeat you.

Sincerely,
Your nice land commander

i used google translate... im asian. hahah :D

anyways.. this is what i got.

EFN: The strategy is a high-level plan to achieve one or more objectives in conditions of uncertainty. Maybe I'm teaching life lessons, as you tried in the other forum post or maybe it's to have a good time.

st0ny: i don't think there was any uncertainty. it seem rather obvious that you premeditated it otherwise you wouldn't have multitapped him like you did. what life lessons are you trying to teach? i cant remember what life lessons i was trying to preach. hahah. i usually just say what comes to mind. :D

EFN: He was not prepared for war. I was "carelessly" negotiating as a democracy (it's not my fault), until I changed to tyranny because I had to.

st0ny: yes, celphi was not prepped for war. playing a demo, he should be trying to nettgain. yes, its your fault that he had to change to a tyranny. he wouldn't have switched to a tyranny if you didn't instigate the war.

EFN: Let your plans be dark and impenetrable like the night and when you move, it falls like lightning.

st0ny: nicely said. to bad you didn't follow. the saying goes, "... when you move, it falls like lightning." you became the victim of lightning instead of becoming the lightning.

Sincerely,
Your friendly land commander"

what strategy? i don't see any form of strategy from your play at all.

you multi tapped him with a country that is prepped for war (i am guessing due to the SDI) leaving him with 2 options.
1. leave the country, wait to play again next set and hope to be lucky enough not to meet a moron.
2. go to war.

so where's your win? or is your strategy just to get flattened even when you instigated the war with a war prepped country?

perhaps you two arranged to go to war before the set started? is that it? i don't quite understand your logic.

i look at the news and i see someone who deserves to be ABed or killed. that's all the facts i had. :D

now that you've owned up to it, and reading what you've written, i'll still call you a moron.

what reason can one possibly have to create a multi acc to hunt down a player set after set?

you said you didn't care then why bother keeping this grudge against him?

also, if you seeing the name absent from the server makes you believe you've won, then perhaps each time he kills or AB you makes him feel like he's won? so now... who's the winner?

from an outside view, it sure seems like both of you lost. celphi is being stubborn by not changing his country name but he is just defending himself. nothing wrong there.

you on the other hand... why don't you tell me if you see anything wrong with yourself here.

celphi probably really should consider a change of country name every set but i don't see a reason to try and belittle or scorn (that's playground antics) him in anyway since what he does here does not have any bad implications towards anyone.

also, fact is, there are some that actually support his 'work'. like myself for example. his 'work' takes one moron out of the set which is great for everyone playing i personally feel. :D

you should really consider playing under a different country name celphi. >.<

i see. i asked of this before way back then but i can no longer recall. heh. thanks

+20% Technology Effectiveness

how does this work for weapons tech? how is it calculated?

say target has 1m turrets and 130% weapons tech.

attacking commie has 130% weapons tech.

how many jets does the attacking commie needs to break target?

anyone please? thanks. :)

you probably forgot to calculate republic -10% military right?

isn't it already happening? just look at the news.

you've already got players i call morons suiciding on other players for no other reason but for their own selfish 'fun'. im still wondering how its fun.

fun to me is something that challenges me but it pretty obvious its not the same for others. do explain it to me so i can try to understand. i'd honestly love to.

there are also players who will tell netters like myself not to impose my play style on them. this cannot be done logically because my play style does not directly involve other countries besides the use of the public market. anyone can see this if they just go check my news over the last 7 sets that i've been playing.

all i can do i try to persuade these players to see things the way i see it. very much unlike the same players that tell me not to impose my play style on them. the way i see it, they are the ones who are imposing their play style on others by purposely attacking other player's country. not to gain an advantage in the game but purely for their own selfish 'fun'.

i honestly don't think anyone would be apposed to another human being having fun just as long as the way they have fun is not detrimental to others. right?

that would've definitely helped the tech prices loads. thanks man. :D

i don't understand how you could see that as being arrogant. i really don't. someone please explain to this ignorant me how that was arrogant in anyway.

i was offering up a suggestion which i don't believe i can force on you in any way or form especially since we are over the internet. i just don't get how some people see things. was the logic behind it wrong in anyway?

if you don't agree, tell me why my suggestion is wrong and offer a counter argument. wouldn't that be the mature thing to do?

and you're a teacher... i seriously worry for the kids...

haha.

is it really the best way to let off steam though? i don't see it bringing you any sort of benefits. the way i see it, that will only invite more problems in the future. you piss 'A' off then 'A' do it to 'B' in the following set. 'B' then go do it to 'C' and the cycle follows. by the end of it, the whole server becomes a place to just piss people off.

wouldn't working out be a much better way of letting off steam? just a suggestion but why not try muay thai?

i did it for 6-7 years, 6 days a week and at least 4 hours a day. felt like dying each and every time i go in (i drop about 2kg of water weight every single time) but never felt better after each session.

REALLY helped me let off steam and be alot healthier. i was and still am such an 'angry' person. always been but being able to let all that pent up stress by working hard and sweating it all out helped me manage the anger. :)

of course, there were still idiots even in such a place. idiots there would be the ones that don't know that CONTROLLING your strength is ALOT harder than just hitting hard during SPARING... in a NON-professional session.

people like that would be the ones that usually piss people off, get into fights and get their asses kicked because they think that hitting harder during sparing = being better than everyone else which is really stupid. sparring is about practicing techniques, breathing control, fight experience and alot more but one thing its just not about is trying to injure your sparing PARTNER.

its just like this game i feel. this game is about finding the balance in spending turns, cash, grabbing, reselling, chosing the right strat and quite abit more but i just dont feel that this game was created with a mindset to piss people off. :)

wouldn't you agree?

never know. you could have finished higher or it could've changed the tech market prices because we already have quite a few techers.

and how does fluffing with people who hasn't done anything to you help you in any way? :)

you'll get used to it real quick since you played from earth 2025. :D