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Politics Observer

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Feb 19th 2019, 2:34:04

You guys are just scary. I can't waste more time on you people. Enjoy living in your horrible little warped world. In the next 6 months your party will be disbanded, and your kind will be labeled as traitors.

If you want to break out of your Fox News and infowars cocoon, try to research some stuff on your own without media involvement. Read some of the acts for yourself, research what they really mean. Look at the science behind why a majority of the country, and even in your own party, are against most of these things happening right now. You know, educate yourselves.

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Feb 19th 2019, 2:06:17

Originally posted by sinistril:
Originally posted by Politics Observer:
Originally posted by The_Hawk:

When did Texas say they did not need a wall?

So by your account the wall in China did work to deter attacks once it was finished. So you are basically saying that a wall works.

Do you even google bro? Every news has talked about huge resistance from Texas, and especially from the landowners involved.

No that doesn't mean the wall worked. The whole point of the wall was to reduce the large military requirements at the northern border. Deterring attacks at one point and moving them to the next unprotected place isn't really working is it? What about the walls and fences we have? They don't work either. Stop listening to the demented mind of your god king and engage common sense. They don't even bother going around the walls and fences we have now, they go through, under, over, or enter straight through gates.

Originally posted by sinistril:


Ohh, your wife is Chinese! That makes you an expert! Obviously!

The wall was not meant to change human nature. A general betraying the Ming dynasty does not = the wall failing. Did the 'actual Chinese historians' fail to mention that?

No, but the Chinese History majors she went to Beijing University with probably are, but I am sure a drunken, MAGA hat wearing, retard like yourself is surely more of an expert than them right? I guess 6-8 years in school in the field don't count for much to the idiocracy group. I am sure your leaders by way of their Russian handlers will tell you everything you need to know.

Do explain how the fall of the Ming Dynasty isn't a failure for the Great Wall? So you don't think the security of gates matter to the integrity of a wall? If you have a wall, it has to have gates, those gates need guards, and those guards have to be able to open the gates. So you pay $50B that can be bypassed by a cool million in the proper bank accounts or a few threatened families?

Or here is an idea, how about we spend a few billion on an electronic barrier and properly staff the border guards and in the end have better security.


So are you saying those 'expert historians' that your so called wife talked to refute that it was a corrupt general in a failing dynasty that let an army through the wall? Or did you not get that information because you're using a third hand account of something you apparently don't know fluff about and are trapped in a web of confirmation bias that doesn't allow you to realise that you are wrong? Changing your tune to the wall will fail because border security agents will be given million dollar bribes from people that are apparently coming into the country to work for $6 an hour is possibly the dumbest defense I have ever heard.

PS: Spending money on an electronic barrier is not mutually exclusive to spending money on a physical barrier.


I talked to them myself, I am quite interested in Chinese history. Seen all the sites, actually read up on it. I know reading isn't something Trump and his supporters like. Also the General wasn't corrupt. Just put in a no win position and chose what would benefit himself the most. You seem to think that isn't a possibility now.

Those workers aren't just hiking across the line, they pay services (Coyotes) to move them. These Coyotes piggyback off of tunnel systems and infrastructure built by drug cartels. In fact random workers crossing the border is likely such an insignificant issue it's pointless to combat let alone spending $50B to do it. The wall will fail because we have ladders, tunnels, quad-copters, catapults, dirty agents or easy to bypass ports of entry, and an ocean on either side. It will do next to nothing for a huge sum of money.

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Feb 19th 2019, 0:27:23

Originally posted by The_Hawk:

When did Texas say they did not need a wall?

So by your account the wall in China did work to deter attacks once it was finished. So you are basically saying that a wall works.

Do you even google bro? Every news has talked about huge resistance from Texas, and especially from the landowners involved.

No that doesn't mean the wall worked. The whole point of the wall was to reduce the large military requirements at the northern border. Deterring attacks at one point and moving them to the next unprotected place isn't really working is it? What about the walls and fences we have? They don't work either. Stop listening to the demented mind of your god king and engage common sense. They don't even bother going around the walls and fences we have now, they go through, under, over, or enter straight through gates.

Originally posted by sinistril:


Ohh, your wife is Chinese! That makes you an expert! Obviously!

The wall was not meant to change human nature. A general betraying the Ming dynasty does not = the wall failing. Did the 'actual Chinese historians' fail to mention that?

No, but the Chinese History majors she went to Beijing University with probably are, but I am sure a drunken, MAGA hat wearing, retard like yourself is surely more of an expert than them right? I guess 6-8 years in school in the field don't count for much to the idiocracy group. I am sure your leaders by way of their Russian handlers will tell you everything you need to know.

Do explain how the fall of the Ming Dynasty isn't a failure for the Great Wall? So you don't think the security of gates matter to the integrity of a wall? If you have a wall, it has to have gates, those gates need guards, and those guards have to be able to open the gates. So you pay $50B that can be bypassed by a cool million in the proper bank accounts or a few threatened families?

Or here is an idea, how about we spend a few billion on an electronic barrier and properly staff the border guards and in the end have better security.

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Feb 18th 2019, 23:04:10

Originally posted by sinistril:
The Great Wall did work. Anyone that says it didn't is listening to too much revisionist history. It had an intended purpose and it mostly fulfilled that intended purpose. What it did not do is fulfill a purpose that it was never intended for, which is what retards cite when they say it did not work. Once again, I blame Woodrow Wilson for the amount of revisionist history on the left.


Now you are talking out your ass friend. Wife is Chinese, and talked to actual Chinese historians. Wall was considered a total failure in most regards. Once it was finished in areas it did deter attacks, but by that time that was a small portion of the issues faced and it wasn't until near the end of the Ming Dynasty before the wall actually was effective in stopping the Mongolians. The wall was basically functional when the Mongols wiped out Jin Dynasty and took over China.. It even failed to protect the Ming Dynasty from being toppled, and they were the most dedicated in rebuilding and expanding it.

It is also of note that construction of much of the great wall was done by individual nation states before the Qin Dynasty unified China. So why not let California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas have a say if they want the wall, and then they can pay for it. Oh wait, because they all have said they don't need a wall and there is no emergency, and that was without them even being responsible for paying for it.

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Feb 18th 2019, 22:24:22

Originally posted by mrcuban:
PO just went to cnn/nbc to find his ‘factial’ information.



So what news source do you consider to be factual?

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Feb 18th 2019, 21:30:47

Hot crackers they need to lock KoHeartsGPA up before he can perform a mass shooting or something. This guy pukes every 'Y'allQaeda talking point. Just complete indoctrination. It's scary really. It scares me that people like this exist in this country and have access to guns.

I am all for the second amendment but if anyone can read the fluff KoHeartsGPA has been posting here and not want the mentally ill restricted from guns, I weep for the safety of your communities.

The Green New Deal was taken from input directly from large businesses as far as it's ten year timeline. Most large businesses (especially the few remaining large industrial producers) already had plans in the works or announced to be fully renewable energy in the time frame. GE, Ford, GM, Apple, Google, Facebook, Costco, Tesla, and several others had announced plans or actively already are working on renewable power systems. Apple for instance is building it's mothership hq which will be at a minimum carbon neutral. I guess you could save a few dollars and just hope that nearly every environmental scientist on the planet is wrong. Or just gut the EPA and make it a non-issue because our country will be uninhabitable in two generations.

On the topic of the wall, anyone that thinks a wall will do fluff is just plain stupid. The Great Wall didn't even work. You do realize there is wall and fences already right? The Coyotes just use the tunnels that have been abandoned by the drug cartels. This wall will do nothing. Also no Democrat is pushing for open borders, where do you get your nonsense? Fox News let me guess, but most of this sounds like Infowars bullfluff. We want border security that works. Heat and infrared cameras, underground vibration sensors, noise and motion detectors, and a border patrol that is equipped to handle illegal crossings. A majority of crossings happen port of entries though, and a 50 billion dollar wall that will do nothing is a total scam to earn Trump kick backs from his friends in the construction business.

The abortion thing sounds bad, we have heart beat bill here, but before that we had before the start of second trimester which made sense.

Anyone that supports Trump is traitor to the US and I hope they are put to death. So Veteran you served your country and now have sold out to the Russians. Hope you feel good about your choices comrade. You have a republican sending everyone around Trump to prison for conspiring with foreign governments, next up will be his kids. So don't try to feed me some line about deep state conspiracy theory bullfluff.