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Tangster Game profile

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Jan 15th 2015, 9:45:36

Hey everyone! Just got back into Earth Empires (:
Was wondering if anyone could tell me how much force you need to send relative to defender to achieve a successful land grab?

Marshal Game profile

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Jan 15th 2015, 15:38:49

your forces + possible govt bonus (dict +25%, rep -10%) + weap tech + ps + off allies forces (max 25% of their available forces and can't more than double your forces) and defending is same except no ps and off allies are def allies.
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Tangster Game profile

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Jan 16th 2015, 3:29:06

thanks!

What's the recommended modified offense to send to break forces? 10% more?

Marshal Game profile

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Jan 16th 2015, 15:56:10

something like that.
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Nerrus Game profile

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Jan 16th 2015, 16:57:55

Curious though I tend to use 11.11111111111111%, should I use 10% instead? How low can I go before I start playing with bounces?
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 16th 2015, 20:36:45

if you send exact break (few units oversend) then risk that you bounce is high and risk that you bounce even if you send 10% extra exists.
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Nerrus Game profile

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Jan 17th 2015, 4:42:33

Originally posted by Marshal:
if you send exact break (few units oversend) then risk that you bounce is high and risk that you bounce even if you send 10% extra exists.


Wtf, send 10% & it may still bounce... that sucks big time :'(
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 17th 2015, 12:40:39

its another random factor.
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Tangster Game profile

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Jan 19th 2015, 2:16:44

whats the rough percentage of success for an attack if you send say 2.5%, 5%, 7.5% and 10% extra in attack power?

I usually send 10% extra and so far 100% success

Furious999 Game profile

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Jan 26th 2015, 0:53:28

Firstly - Marshal loves to answer questions. Take anything he says with a pinch of salt.

Secondly, the game now has a random factor built in. Add ten per cent to your break and you will take out the random factor rather more than nine hundred and ninety nine times out of a thousand.

So first spy (which means paying attention to spies from about turn eighty or ninety onwards) and then calculate. Convert tanks and turrets to troops, add ten percent for everyone except Republics (to take out the random factor), multiply by Weapons tech and gov.t bonus if target is a Dictator, add defence bonus if target has used bonus points to gain that advantage (be careful with your spy report, the defence bonus shows up at first but not after you have closed the report down), spy to establish what defence allies add (they send 25% of turrets, troops and tanks but w/o any bonuses), look at your offence alles (also 25% w/o bonuses), allow for your own Weapons tech, and if you are using PS divide by 3 (SS divide by 2). And now you have the break. :)

There are lots of good spreadsheets but I like to use a calculator.

Good luck.

flgatorboy89 Game profile

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Jan 29th 2015, 20:41:05

I use ghq, it tells what to send :p
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 29th 2015, 20:44:26

so does boxcar but bc's assumption is "bit" off.
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Jan 29th 2015, 21:16:02

ghq on the other hand will tell you exactly what you need
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zeroshade Game profile

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Apr 8th 2015, 18:15:00

What are ghq and boxcar?

Marshal Game profile

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Apr 8th 2015, 19:21:14

hosting sites for alliances/teams on servers where alliances/teams are allowed (alliance, ffa, team).
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LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Abatis06 Game profile

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May 27th 2015, 5:43:11

3 to 1 minimum 6 to 1 better as much as you can best!

Milehigh88 Game profile

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Jun 14th 2015, 0:29:33

i just send the whole army and the kitchen sink at them.

Shinjin Game profile

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Sep 2nd 2015, 21:46:59

I bet you also spend alot of money on troops from losing 30k of each from every attack... And waste lots of oil as well... MILEHIGH88

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 3rd 2015, 13:26:06

that's why we use jets.
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qwertyqwerty Game profile

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Sep 5th 2015, 23:23:31

just send max

lblade Game profile

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Jan 11th 2019, 23:55:39

When grabbing does a tank equal a troop equals a jet?

So if i sent 110 troops 110 jets and 110 tanks will it break 300 turrets?
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 12th 2019, 11:44:26

2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)

so yes it'll break by a quite a big margin.
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lblade Game profile

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Jan 12th 2019, 18:38:06

Thanks, that's super helpful
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 12th 2019, 21:16:57

if you'd do ps then you'd nearly dbl oversend.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

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LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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lblade Game profile

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Jan 12th 2019, 22:21:23

right, i get the 50% thing i was mostly wondering about this

2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)

I can do the math from there. I didn't actually find a country with only 300 turrets XD
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cyref Game profile

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Jan 15th 2019, 3:36:04

Originally posted by Marshal:
2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)


It seems that the Marshalbot is broken. One tank = two turrets = four troops in defensive strength.
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trumpoz Game profile

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Jan 18th 2019, 2:11:59

You also need to take in to account allies which can double a defender's strength.

Generally I assume that the defender strength is doubled.

Jets = (2 x troops + turrets + tanks÷2) x 2 x weapons tech x gov bonus x 1.1

For a PS divide that number by 1.5

Marhsal

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Feb 3rd 2019, 8:09:51

Originally posted by cyref:
Originally posted by Marshal:
2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)


It seems that the Marshalbot is broken. One tank = two turrets = four troops in defensive strength.
http://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Military_Units


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m0bzta Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2019, 20:16:34

Originally posted by Marhsal:
Originally posted by cyref:
Originally posted by Marshal:
2 troops = 1 turret (well with pangqz factor its more like 2.2 troops)
1 jet = 1 turret (same as bove)
1 tank = 4 turrets (same as above)


It seems that the Marshalbot is broken. One tank = two turrets = four troops in defensive strength.
http://wiki.earthempires.com/index.php/Military_Units


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Marshal Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2019, 22:07:02

on that you are correct.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

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m0bzta Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2019, 23:58:06

thanks
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Marshal Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2019, 11:12:36

not that it was compliment.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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m0bzta Game profile

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Feb 24th 2019, 1:08:28

sounds like it
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Marshal Game profile

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Feb 24th 2019, 10:37:12

yea it does but it isn't
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Kendolegnald Game profile

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Mar 6th 2019, 2:49:26

neat