Let's examine the numbers, shall we? Stating absolute numbers without context doesn't tell anything.
hpk: shows efficiency, nothing else. A clan with smaller numbers will by definition be less efficient, as they might not have optimal breaking resources.
hpm: shows how many tyrranies one have, that's it.
total NW left: when the one side starts at a significant NW lead, shows nothing.
most kills: the side with the larger number of countires must have the higher number. 9 countries at 74 turns a day for 2 weeks is 74*9*14=9324 turns, or about 18 kills at 500 turns per kill.
most hits: see most kills.

If SoL?MD didnt score higher that SoF on ALL of these stats, they should quit warring, or join stones.


Stats without context is just numbers without meaning.

most whinning cry babies excuses +2

"+3"

SoF outkilled you in terms of originals, before our last original died, their were only two of you left. That means we killed 7 more originals than you before you killed our last one. Personally I don't feel beat. I don't care about statistics, either way you look at this. You had a run for your money, we had a run for ours. Not too mention MD's walling was on par all set. It seemed fishy to me..people would mention weaknesses in their country in our chatroom and minutes later it would be exploited. Happened so many times, I was sure their was a leak. Nobodies whining, nobodies crying. You guys can knock off the attempts to make SoF seem like sour puss. The people who showed up everyday, fought like hell, believe me. It was a fun war. When you have more members, your hitstats should be much higher, 1 more players equals 72+ bonus turns a day * 9 equals how much? 648 if we stick with the 72 turns a day, that's about a for sure additional kill each day more than SoF. Given the FS or not. You also recruited from Elders and dropped your inactive ones. We also had a handful of cannon fodder. Our fault we couldn't muster up more active people. Kudos on that. Otherwise a small core of about 35 SoF actives gave you a run for your money. That's the truth.

This thread degraded quickly. Thankfully, I think most people in all 3 clans are not disappointed in the overall performance.

SoF purposefully took on two great clans and outnumbered itself in an attempt to gain a more balanced war challenge. That's the biggest take-away for me in all of this.

If you want to publicly whine and cry about the results or intentionally try to troll the other side of this because you're bored (or simply a jackass) then carry on doing so - but you can still go Swirve yourself.

Every thread I post on is considered degraded. We are having a nice discussion. Nobody threatened. Nobody called names. A what a baseless post by primeval to discourage anymore discussion on the topic.

At time of tag kill, originals killed =

SOF = 53, MD/SOL = 46

We performed well for having 18% less countries and turns.

was waiting for this to come out.


#62, #202, #45


2 from Elders
1 from LaF

all 3 tagged SoF within 72 hrs window of hitting.
all 3 broke pact to join SoF in war.


both sides pulled from elders
stfu.

that's not very nice. I had commented we were having a nice discussion. Than you had to go and ruin that. Why can't you just state facts without becoming volatile. That is news to me. I can accept that as something I wasn't made aware of. Watch your acronyms why don't cha!

whinny fluffes +5

whinney b1tch3s +5

This is Academus http://dailypicksandflicks.com/...ng.-Im-only-a-turtle..jpg

i think most of the other stuff that has been posted is/was crap and no need to talk down your opponents since it really only makes your side look worse (i would rather beat/tie a hard opponent instead of trash a weaker one)

however i have to point out that this picture is awesome:P

aside from this it was an extremely hard fought war on both sides and i don't remember when the last time a war was fought out to basically a draw after almost a month of warring!
great effort from sof and it was a really fun war!

Actually a lot more can be said about this war then the overall stats but, most don't want to delve into the overall strategy.

SoF went mostly dicts with an unsustainable SPAL though with tech selling at 6000-9999 for the entire war there was billions more in stock to be found that could not of been planned on.

MD/SOL went for tyranny and maximum hits.

MD/SOL did a good effort of keeping a strategy of taking things out and overall degrading but, with tech going insanely high...SoF did react faster with selling tech at extremely high prices which allowed there top to become even harder to kill..

MD/SoL slacked on killing the last few and chose to slowly take them out and stock some resources a few days which SoF did very good taking out as many originals which no one seemed to stonewall during those 3 to 4 days.


Overall it was a good war with multiple strategies used by both sides. Good war SoF. The rest is just a bunch of people whining about useless stats or that some how more countries or not. No war is prefect and you will never see a prefect war in EE that is not reality. The market this set was the biggest X factor of this war period! Anybody disagreeing with that is an idiot. If the tech was not selling for 6000 to 9000 those big countries in sof would not of been able to survive the way they were for as long. Also, Countries like mine would of not been breaking daily mid war with no recourse almost cause of tech prices..

The tag kill is usually the primary goal of the war, SoL/MD accompished that first, and based on who I assume is xyle's efferts, he tried to hold out as long possible knowing the end game strategy.

that being said, have such a quality war has been a rarity the past few years . I tip my cap to SoF for providng such a challenge, and I particualry loved the very different strategies used by both sides. But I do think that hit count and producition was just able to overcome the SoF spy advantage.

I see some good analysis of the war. I like it and kudos to MD/SoL war team.

LMAO The Laf members were negotiate with Randy when the war was talked about that 2 of them were playing in SOF. MD/SOL would not even agree to a war if they did not have at least a 10 member advantage. He just neglected to tell anyone. Then MD decides to kick out inactive members to bring in 3 top elders countries. The elder countries only same into SoF because randy said and I Quote " I can't ask them to leave now". When it was originally said that no one from elders would be in the war.

I have all the skype logs Mdvol so try something else.

So, does all this extra discussion mean that SoF is going to do another one of their OOP FSes on the alliances on the other side of this "friendly war" 3 resets from now?

haha you also have the skype logs of me trying to contact you for 2 weeks prior to the war this set trying to figure out what was going on and what was being arranged, with no response from you still to this day on skype.

This is our last 2 conversations Mdvol.

These are the last 2 messages we have Mdevol.

[3/27/2016 1:04:16 PM] WArriOR|: You guys want to do a Sof/sol kill every one lol :P MD has told me they are netting next reset, and laf is not sure how many people will want to fight.
[6/23/2016 9:00:43 PM] MDeVol: So, are we pacting? MD said they were figuring it out and waiting on you guys...


"MD is setting up the war and" In your own words, and you are corrected I didn't respond because I was working it out with MD LOL.

I have logs in my pants...

who cares good war

This

Your last original had a 2k acre country for 3 weeks and a 1k country for 1 week with constant breaking power without losing NW. So you want to stick to facts let's let a few skeletons out of your closet.

Oh my.. cable. To what could you be implying?

What outside clan siphoning money into a sof hands via market buyouts?

Your vaginas are showing!!!

If you are going to try and brag, at least try to be good at it.

I wasnt involved in the war btw

Well, I was involved in the original planning of the war until someone said they didnt want the Elders to fight in it. So I stayed out.

Did you guys kill off those spam tags yet?

Ofc

Thank god

whole bunches of WIN in this thread. :D ill keep my 10m nw 1000 hit restart !

Ahem... only one country hit over 1000 hits this set. And it wasnt you...

http://earthgraphs.com/...;search=Search&sort=6

gg Sol/MD :)

Once again, congrats to MD/SoL.
You guys out played us this war, simple as that.
We did not underestimate you, but being in many wars I can say we underperformed.
Still tons of fun! :-)

Nice job MD95/SoL !

I've been in a number of good wars over my years in SoL.

This was probably the best one yet.

Well fought, SoF.

looked like a good rumble

wtf? lol.

Scourge is mvp of this war!

Nice war, thanks for the fun

986.. I ROUND :D
not bad considering, i lost 60 missiles to being the first target dead. :D

And dissy TECHNICALLy if youre counting TOTAL hits I dumped missiles to maximize CHEMS on my original

http://earthgraphs.com/...=1115&searchstr=Donny

SO im over 1000 ;)

BUT, 986 WAR hits.

=)

Alright, that's it. You guys should settle this with another war. No excuses, use Elders to even up the sides. Winner takes all!

;)

There is no need for any SoFers to argue here, though I know most are not. SOL/MD clearly won this war and they deserve credit.

SoF has nothing to prove to anyone. We had the courage to take on the next 2 best warring alliances at the same time at a huge membership disadvantage and we came close to winning. Not one single tag has ever taken on such a challenge before and I doubt anyone would ever do so again anytime soon. We can be proud of our efforts and it was a great fight.

agree.

we may have lost the war but sof has def proven hands down we can take any alliance with 1:1 ratio :)

The last country was mine. To what skeletons would you be referring to? The skeleton of my massive stock at the start of the war which sustained me the entire war? Or how during the last 10 days before I died I was buying Indy and Weapons techs for 1100-1700 and reselling for 2496-2996 three times a day?

Are you insinuating that because you cannot comprehend how I was able to sustain myself it therefore has to be something sinister? ;)