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Soy Sauce

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Jul 23rd 2015, 6:07:27

Landtrading is surely killing this awesome game. Please consider removing ghost acres to stop people doing land trade. Just add more bots!!! Problem solved.

SAM_DANGER Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 6:20:55

Agreed on item 1, and item 1 only.

Cerberus Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 10:10:01

Landtrading is not how this game should be played at all. In fact, I remember many many charges of cheating being waged against an old now defunct alliance for simply doing what most of the large alliances are doing right now. This particular old alliance idd NOT tolerate landgrabs against them. On the other hand, they didn't do landgrabs against anyone either. THey had players that ran countries just to provide other players with land.

Thus, I would be in favor of the elimination of ghost acres too. I would hope to see a corresponding increase in actual landgrabs which should result in increaed retals, etc. This makes for a more exciting game for sure. :)
I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

aponic Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 11:54:43

It would be nice to see the land trading end. It is pretty lame.
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En4cer Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 12:01:05

More bots and leave ghost acres as is (I would prefer to not have to trade to finish well) but the server needs the land. Vamps did really well this set but the current system cant support a few dozen players trying to play the same way.

ddd Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 13:14:14

do

archaic Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 13:32:32

**yawn**

this again huh?
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Marshal Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 13:51:35

more bots wouldn't help a fluff since once players figure which countries are bots those are put into very deep dr.

if each player grabs bots ~20 times then server would need 1000+ bot countries to provide enuf non-dr bot countries for everyone.

sure admins could restrict attacks against bots by single player but it wouldn't help much.

also admins could provide each player few landfarm bots which only that player could attack but that would be stupid.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

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Untagged Hunter

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Jul 23rd 2015, 14:03:52

Yes, Landtrading is gay. No competition at all. Alot of the people I know left this game because of "Landtrading".

Trife Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 17:47:57

LET US BUY AND SELL MISSILES AGAIN


AND BRING BACK THE BIO MISSILE


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vamps Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 18:03:36

I don't have a problem with ghost acres in general, but ghost acres at high acreage gets a bit out of control. I'll probably finish around where I finished the last time I netted (and traded) and I've had to spend about 5x the time/effort in the process. A bottomfeeding tyr farmer isn't a viable strat if you are competing for the win with the current formulas. That's somewhat disappointing in my opinion.

On the bright side, bots are a step in the right direction. I was having quite a bit of fun this set until I had to adjust things due to a suicider. Competing for bot land and dr camping made me feel nostalgic over how the game was 10 years ago.

Vamps Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 18:04:20

Trife, I'd also like to purchase some conditioning tech!

BLUEEE Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 18:58:21

must be a sad life to have to complain about land trading.

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 19:15:09

maybe he wants to get back to basics aka everyone plays all-x.
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Trife Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 19:25:16

maybe soy sauce is a ghost racist and hates all things ghosty???

Symbolic Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 20:14:11

What vamps said ^

Requiem Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 20:43:28

You're all wrong.

This game needs more real (human) players.

Anything else is an illusion.

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2015, 20:49:21

what req said, 20k human players and no need for bots.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Zorp Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 5:23:13

Originally posted by Requiem:
You're all wrong.

This game needs more real (human) players.

Anything else is an illusion.


This. Bots are a joke and a disgrace to this game. They are a slightly more complicated explore button. There is literally zero risk involved.

Soy Sauce

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Jul 24th 2015, 5:32:10

[quote poster=Zorp; 36846; 670622]
Originally posted by Requiem:
You're all wrong.

This game needs more real (human) players.

Anything else is an illusion.


Yes, eliminate landtrading will bring back (human) players

Zorp Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 5:45:39

Originally posted by Soy Sauce:

Yes, landtrading requires a great deal of knowledge, skill, practice and tact to finish well. Since I am a lazy fluff who has no interest in learning anything, I want it gone so I can compete without adapting away from 2005 play when there were almost a hundred times more players.


I couldn't agree more.

Academus Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 12:03:48

yes

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 15:09:46

Originally posted by archaic:
**yawn**

this again huh?

braden Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 17:04:56

Originally posted by tellarion:
Originally posted by archaic:
**yawn**

this again huh?


go ruin team server.

CAT FACTS

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Jul 24th 2015, 17:20:27

Originally posted by braden:
Originally posted by tellarion:
Originally posted by archaic:
**yawn**

this again huh?


go ruin team server.


tella didn't ruin team server, red x ruined it

get it right you silly canuck

braden Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 17:23:45

Originally posted by CAT FACTS:
Originally posted by braden:
Originally posted by tellarion:
Originally posted by archaic:
**yawn**

this again huh?


go ruin team server.


tella didn't ruin team server, red x ruined it

get it right you silly canuck


rivisionist history, lies spread by the anti red pro tella movement. comprised of fascists, mostly. a few hardline tellaists, though, such as yourself and zorp.

braden Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 17:26:05

and archaic, and we all know how much he enjoys earth tones..

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 19:11:18

Originally posted by braden:

go ruin team server.


its ruined already so mission accomplished.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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braden Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 19:13:33

Originally posted by Marshal:
Originally posted by braden:

go ruin team server.


its ruined already so mission accomplished.


one hundred and six.

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 19:44:34

nine hundred and eleven.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Riddler Game profile

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Jul 24th 2015, 22:12:50

just put 500 bots in the game with the ability to retal.

jjterrico Game profile

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Jul 25th 2015, 3:02:06

Originally posted by Riddler:
just put 500 bots in the game with the ability to retal.


One day everyone is gonna farm the bots to fluff then all of a sudden the bots will return fire....mass mayhem and chaos will ensue along with way too much butthurt

enshula Game profile

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Jul 25th 2015, 12:19:43

anyone who understands the game and actually wanted to nerf landtrading would do completely different things

such as altering the cs formulas

or change dr formulas to be related to percentage of land lost or or lost to another country

or change dict bonuses

tellarion Game profile

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Jul 25th 2015, 14:46:56

Originally posted by Marshal:
Originally posted by braden:

go ruin team server.


its ruined already so mission accomplished.


Bingo

BladeEWG Game profile

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Jul 26th 2015, 12:29:35

Originally posted by jjterrico:
Originally posted by Riddler:
just put 500 bots in the game with the ability to retal.


One day everyone is gonna farm the bots to fluff then all of a sudden the bots will return fire....mass mayhem and chaos will ensue along with way too much butthurt


That would really be cool

Atryn Game profile

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Jul 27th 2015, 13:25:37

Originally posted by enshula:
anyone who understands the game and actually wanted to nerf landtrading would do completely different things

such as altering the cs formulas

or change dr formulas to be related to percentage of land lost or or lost to another country

or change dict bonuses


I actually don't like DR formulas as a concept. Anything that further complicates the game mechanics will dissuade people from playing IMHO. The simpler the came concept the better.

I see this with people coming back to find landtrading too - its just too much work and not enough fun.

I'd rather play a country, blow fluff up, eventually die, restart and play more any day than spend a ton of time sitting in front of spreadsheets to maximize some arbitrary numbers because the formulas were changed yet again.

elvesrus

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Jul 27th 2015, 14:50:58

Atryn, you would have loved limited
Originally posted by crest23:
Elves is a douche on every server.

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 27th 2015, 19:18:16

yea if he was in winning side since losing side would be landfarm for winner.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....