In express, what SPAL do you think is effective to defend against bomb banks?

Not sure, but I've stolen about $150mil from one guy so far this set. Used like 15 turns.

30 is nice but 40+ is preferable.

Who is 61? You are complete trash.

If someone wants to bomb banks you, there's really nothing you can do to prevent it. If you get too high of SPAL it then defeats the purpose of saving money.

Depending on your government I'd say 20 SPAL is sufficient enough.

By turn 900, for every 100k spies, you're spending 100mil on spies.

61 got me a bit as well

125 got me too.
two total trash players lol

lol

I had 20 SPAL on my democracy, someone managed to get through 2/3 bomb banks and ended up getting away with 250mil or so


Will tech increase defensive value of your spies?

spy tech helps but money spent on that is away from other techs needed and stock.

Just try not to have too much money on hand when you log out. Ppl with 2bil+ sitting at home is just asking others to take it from them.

Spy tech percentage is of direct relation to the effectiveness of your spies.

100k spies on 10k acres, 10 spal. With 130% tech it is a 13 spal. Same offensive as defensive.

There was a change a year or more ago editing the op formula where spal isn't the only factor. Number of spies matters now as well, not just your ratio.

I was able to steal at least 2-3 Billion in cash these last three sets using spies. It gets to the point where I make far more stealin grandpas 401k than I do selling tech or food. As I've stated earlier SPAL here, for some reason, never seems to work in the defenders favor. I rob you guys blind, farm and player alike, and its SO easy. I used to feel guilty, because it was so simple getting $5, $10, $40, $100 Million an Op for me, regardless of the SPAL, spy count, variation of the wind, and phase of ninjas pasty white moon. But I came to realize that it's all your fault. You have piles of ca$h just sitting there...and with a defective spy system, what do you expect??

I'm thankful that everyone who hits or Ops me is in GDI, for some reason nobody every steals from me, even when it's ME sitting on a Billion of YOUR cash...Maybe its the Luck+5 charm I bought at Burning Man last year... It's made with Dragon foreskin

At this point, prob 1/4 of the Ca$h I use for mad money comes from your pocket.

Final analysis: If you don't want to lose cash, keep under $200 million in reserves, Build 1,000,000 spies, then sell all of them in the last few hours so you can clear out the markets without worrying about me stealin your loot. It's your best option.

what is your best finish? im guessing pretty crappy.

My best finish was in your a$$, but Net-wise I stay in top 20, mostly because I dont have the schedule to place any higher.

It is your atypical play style, not your schedule.

I stopped running with spies a while ago

The solution is simple. Bomb banks x2 = red country.

Enjoy wasting time, finding which country stole $2m from you, if both ops got through.

Lool. schedule, right. I could run an all-x casher, log in 4 times for 5 minutes each, and finish top 10..

They don't have to go through- failed or success. 2 bomb banks ATTEMPTS = break of GDI.
In fact, 1 Bomb banks + 1 SS/PS = break of GDI
1 ops + 1 attack = break of GDI
2 attacks = break of GDI
2 ops = break of GDI

ops = bomb banks, burn bushels, burn oil

Then you simply go to war tab and select GS, and start with 1 until you get about to 100. When it lets you GS, then you've found your bank thief. It takes about 3 minutes to do it. 1-2 secs per number attempt.

To you: Theft of $2 million is pointless to cycle through all the numbers for.

To me: The thief just gained $2 million and now can't play until Tuesday night.

100 spal

#thisisgoodstuff

durf, I burn turns like nobodies business. I try to play each set, but there really is no schedule I can depend on. Therefore I won't be able to follow market trends, maximize tech/food or other sales, successfully ward off attacks, search for 50-60 land grab targets, reply to in-game sexts from you. It just doesn't happen for me.

You and your boyfriend can toss my salad.

but you have time to search for bomb bank targets right?

were you born full of fluff, or did you have to eat it all?

Farms sit on massive cash stockpiles. So do the morons running little to no spies. I find 3 or 4, and it's free $$ from then on. There are patterns in a game based on math formulas. Its one of the reasons I like robbin banks, I know who's got cash, and it tends to stay the same throughout the set. PLUS, you don't need locate a viable target with repeat and costly spy ops. As I said, I am crunched for time, so I do as I do.

Much of the stuff Gonzo is saying is bogus information.

He's not getting 40mil per spy op or 100mil per spy op.
If someone has 2 bil on hand you're going to steal around 5mil a turn. And after two bomb banks, you're going to have to buy tanks, troops, turrets to avoid getting killed/flattened. And the (costs for that defense) > (money made from bomb banks).

He's not making 2-3 billion from spy ops (equiv 8-12 mil net).
The only logical reasoning I can see why he's making these comments is because he plays farmer and he wants you to stock up in buying bushels.

I welcome you to steal my cash Gonzo.

Look for: CELPHI REVENGE

I didn't really want to share any of this with you guys anyway. Don't believe me. I've tagged countries who were sitting on $1.6 billion, and each op started at around $36 mil. 32, 31, 29, etc...I start bouncing, obviously, but losing 500 or even 5000 spies is worth a gamble for that kind of cheese. I usually pull this off with max spy tech, and tend to have 200k or more spies. It is a dirty little secret and I love it tenderly. Sure I leave some bruises, but she never complains. I may have taken mind altering substances in my lifetime, but most of that wore off hours ago. I know what I saw.

I'll back Celphi's numbers.

#77 last set caught me with 3B and stole ~8Mil/op. I had 20 SPAL on 13k acres (270k spies). He succeeded about 2/3 from eyeballing it, and took around 160Mil in 20 successful ops, looks like he lost something like 30-50K spies in order to do it.

I decided not to retal and just finish with what I had. I decided 160M wasn't enough to go crazy over, and just the spy loss was punishment enough.



36M per op when a country is sitting on 1.6 billion sounds flat out impossible unless relative SPAL has a massive multiplicative effect.

the cash stolen per op is based not only on the defenders cash, but the aggressors as well. most spy ops are like this.

Though this is true, the maximuim that can be stolen caps at the about .025 (2.5%) of defender's cash // per turn

20 SPAL is good enough on EXPRESS; unless, you're at war.
160 mil is not even 1 mil net. In fact- if you plan to carry around tons of cash the rest of set, it's a rather cheap way to get yourself spied out.