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Nerrus

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Dec 16th 2014, 5:21:30

Since the Bots can't attack yet, how about making them invincible? That way nobody can farm them and the Bots are free to fulfill their other purposes?

Btw, Wikipedia has a lot of names of places, could use that? <https://en.wikipedia.org/...tegory:Lists_of_places>;

Edited By: Nerrus on Dec 16th 2014, 5:28:39

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qzjul

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Dec 16th 2014, 6:25:50

OMG@List of Places o.O sooo many categories

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Syko_Killa

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Dec 16th 2014, 7:27:55

are the bots on for this set as well? I hope so, just created a country!

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qzjul

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Dec 16th 2014, 8:30:24

Yes they are! :) And I just made it so they'll pick governments

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crest23

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Dec 16th 2014, 20:21:05

Originally posted by qzjul:

Hmmm..... well if anybody has a good naming generator out there that makes slightly more earth-like country names...

I could, technically, do a name-dump of all EE countries ever and pick some of those, but it might be weird - and potentially bug people if i reuse certain themes or names

Of all the names created on all the servers in EE, randomized, I doubt reusing would be a problem.

The Nigerian Nightmare.

Frybert

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Dec 17th 2014, 2:03:25

Originally posted by qzjul:

I think it should randomly pick a country name that plays on the server. Say 2% of the time.

deezyboy

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Dec 17th 2014, 2:54:27

how are bushels on the market @ 47 turns, is this related to the bots?

qzjul

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Dec 17th 2014, 4:25:09

bots just follow market price +/- 20% randomly. So it's just supply & demand I suspect

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Dec 17th 2014, 4:30:50

I think he is asking why food was on the market at turn 47 of the reset

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Zorp

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Dec 17th 2014, 7:34:29

^^^

qzjul

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Dec 17th 2014, 16:33:17

ooooh, i thought you meant at $47

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bots shouldn't be able to place food on the market before being OOP i think? I'll have to check that actually, in case the check was done in the UI originally -- almost all things have the check in the game engine where it ought to be, but maybe this one doesn't...

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qzjul

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Dec 17th 2014, 16:36:19

that was, in fact, the case =/ Fixed now!

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Celphi

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Dec 17th 2014, 22:51:34

Are they set to join GDI? Also (seperate issue) - but can you you remove the 0s from build/tech/explore/market menus?

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Celphi

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Dec 17th 2014, 22:52:09

& no I wasn't the one w/ 1440 oil, haha.

actually that's a dbl negative.

*I wasn't the one w/ 1440 oil is more accurate. ;)

Edited By: Celphi on Dec 17th 2014, 22:55:37
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qzjul

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Dec 17th 2014, 23:22:35

Originally posted by Celphi:

Are they set to join GDI?

Not yet, they can't yet...

Originally posted by Celphi:

but can you you remove the 0s from build/tech/explore/market menus?

B&S Board :)

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currydubs

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Dec 18th 2014, 11:53:45

Originally posted by qzjul:

bots just follow market price +/- 20% randomly. So it's just supply & demand I suspect

20%. This sure helps stabilise the market

Riddler

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Dec 18th 2014, 12:49:24

Originally posted by qzjul:

ask one of the old RD guys :P

BUTTMAN

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Dec 18th 2014, 14:56:45

I like the idea of using recycled country names from the past!

qzjul

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Dec 18th 2014, 18:35:19

Originally posted by currydubs:

20%. This sure helps stabilise the market

Yes, it does; because if there's really cheap goods, and demand is high, they are picked up fast, possibly by SO's; if demand is low, the price begins to fall naturally. If demand is really high, the price moves up naturally.

The key to a stable market is a *larger* market. More goods being bought and sold. My idea in the future is to make the numbers of strat types be similar to human-played numbers, to keep the market in-line with what it would be if there were no markets, just with a much deeper supply & larger demand.

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Iron Mike Tyson

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Dec 18th 2014, 19:45:11

You should name them all after me.

Cave Johnson

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Dec 18th 2014, 19:48:31

Originally posted by Iron Mike Tyson:

You should name them all after me.

No, they should all be named after astronauts, war heros and Olympians!

Iron Mike Tyson

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Dec 18th 2014, 19:53:33

Originally posted by Cave Johnson:

Originally posted by Iron Mike Tyson:

You should name them all after me.

No, they should all be named after astronauts, war heros and Olympians!

Or women I have fornicated with.

Home Turf

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Dec 18th 2014, 19:56:47

that would b a damn short list

Iron Mike Tyson

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Dec 18th 2014, 20:00:11

Originally posted by Home Turf:

that would b a damn short list

It starts with your mother, of course, and I have been blessed to fornicate with many women, many of them beautiful.

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Zorp

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Dec 20th 2014, 9:56:31

Well, I guess you can't post a top 10 without hitting bots right now.

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Dec 20th 2014, 13:09:44

h2orich

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Dec 21st 2014, 6:09:08

quite sure it's the bots doing for these kind of food prices

yylim80sss

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Dec 21st 2014, 7:26:28

There is a bot with 1.8b cash and 0 spies but unfortunately I cant OPs him. Was trying to steal a little cash but it keep saying failed.

Any reason?

Celphi

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Dec 21st 2014, 7:33:48

Spied out most likely by someone quicker than you.

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qzjul

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Dec 24th 2014, 17:14:52

Yea; I'm definitely leaning towards them trying to target a NW/(A*G) target....

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qzjul

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Dec 24th 2014, 20:19:08

They officially try to defend themselves now ;) Check it out meow :)

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h2orich

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Dec 25th 2014, 6:23:20

nooooo.. no more 100 jet PS

Syko_Killa

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Dec 25th 2014, 21:06:16

which ones are bots? Also when you gonna drop these bad bots on the alliance server, I need more land.

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qzjul

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Dec 25th 2014, 22:10:06

I can't tell you which are bots, that would negate the point! =D you can probably figure it out pretty quick though

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Nerrus

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Dec 28th 2014, 2:54:39

Would it not be better if the bots can't be attacked?

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Slagpit

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Dec 28th 2014, 6:27:44

If the bots couldn't be attacked they would eventually fill most of the top ten. Most all-X strategies aren't that difficult to program and never having any military expenses would really help.

AzNiZe

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Dec 28th 2014, 6:41:15

Originally posted by Syko_Killa:

which ones are bots? Also when you gonna drop these bad bots on the alliance server, I need more land.

there are currently 20+ bots countries on alliance server.

h2orich

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:05:05

qzjul you have to do something about the bots. ever since bots were introduced, food has never been above $40, military prices were $150 and above. I've bought over 80m bushels last set between $30-$33.. Im sure a huge part of this food comes from the bots.

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:11:37

Originally posted by h2orich:

Not true, you just was unlucky to always login to bad prices, set before this past one I sold out $50 to $100 food most of the set, bought military under $120, just bad timing for you, bud.

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h2orich

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Dec 29th 2014, 3:21:16

http://www.eestats.com/express/oldmarket/758
click on bushels, highest point sold was about $41 almost at the last hour
click on jets, average was about $140
click on turrets, average was about $140, they were never below $130

what are you talking about?

Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:28:42

eestats doesn't reflect exact fluctuations in prices. so the highest points can actually be higher than reflected on the graph.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:30:25

Thanks Celphi, I was just about to point that out 😊

h2orich

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:38:14

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Not true, you just was unlucky to always login to bad prices, set before this past one I sold out $50 to $100 food most of the set, bought military under $120, just bad timing for you, bud.

How long did you play the entire set? 3 mins? Im sure eestats didnt capture most of the set you were playing.
Eestats updates every 5 mins. Unless your ALL your food was sold in that 5 min time frame then yes eestats might not have captured it.

Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:45:57

eestats updates every 5 mins on some things (aka players rank, players history). the graph is not one of them. the graph is updated daily and a line is drawn to each day's average (using a line graph).

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Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:48:51

if you look at the graphs closely you can actually see where the line shifts per day marker. that's why you never see the line change direction more than once in between each(1) day.

Edited By: Celphi on Dec 29th 2014, 4:51:05
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h2orich

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:53:17

http://www.eestats.com/primary/market
click on 6/12/24/72 hours. What about this? Im sure this updates every 5 mins
too bad its not shown for previous sets

yea you're right, its drawn to each day's average, the average seen on the graph is already clear enough. if you take a look at the sets before bots were introduced, there were peaks for bushel prices(when techers are stocking). now its just a flat $33-$40 line.

Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:53:29

to further prove my point- look @ the medical tech from last reset. it begins exactly on day 2.

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Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:56:02

Originally posted by h2orich:

aye, i agree with you that the overall bushel prices have dropped. the main reason is that these bots aren't buying bushels to stock. instead, they are hording 1-2 billion cash on hand. if they actually bought bushels as stock, our bushel prices would rise again.

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h2orich

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:56:34

Originally posted by Celphi:

to further prove my point- look @ the medical tech from last reset. it begins exactly on day 2.

it just means it started selling from day 2.

Well, we'll just have a look from in-game market news next set.

Celphi

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Dec 29th 2014, 4:58:37

Originally posted by h2orich:

Originally posted by Celphi:

to further prove my point- look @ the medical tech from last reset. it begins exactly on day 2.

it just means it started selling from day 2.

Well, we'll just have a look from in-game market news next set.

yes, but @ exactly day 2? i highly doubt someone sold medical tech exactly at the turn of day in ALL the graphs. if the graphs truly reflected 5 minute updates the line would have started in between day 1 and 2 somewhere.

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