i understand the problem with suiciding but really? i can see how it would drive a new player away from the game

youd probly be the first one fluffing if your entire 2 months was ruined by one of those untags couple days before the end. if your honestly wanting to understand then dig through the threads from long ago and see the damage done

TKO use to lose 2 top 10 countries and a handful of top 50 each reset

tag up and talk with some established tags - its simple

for the most part i don't have time to fluff with it. just play for something to do in the evenings and if you don't think i don't know how this game works you are a fool. point i am making is anyone that stops in to see what this game is about and gets killed for no reason will not play again. and if you get that bent out of shape over a killed country there is something wrong with you.

your an idiot. they can be upset but we cant?

Play Primary or Tourney. If you play in a clan allowed server, take off our tin-foil hat and interact with others...you might even find it fun.

missiles and tanks and missiles and tanks and missiles and tanks and missiles and tanks and missiles and tanks and that is fun

the effort you put in to whining about this is about all the effort required to tag yoruself up and post something on ffat. that's kind of a crap excuse, really.

So's using the excuse of farming untags, then crying suicide when they retal

i haven't tried to use that excuse in years despie :p

In the past, I'd be on your side, farmer, but here's the situation:

This server doesn't get a lot of new players, but it does get its share of players claiming to be new to hide and grow big enough to be effective suiciders.

The vast majority of people playing untaggeds in Free For All either are clearly harmless or are suiciders trying to hide in the collection of untaggeds.

They're primarily attacking suiciders and occasionally killing off an innocent. If you're that innocent, this sucks, sure. However, this is ultimately an alliance server, and for that matter, there's nothing in the rules that says that a person can't be a fluff (otherwise we'd have been able to ban suiciders, after all!) and kill whoever they want. I don't say that to mean that people killing untaggeds are just being fluffs, but moreso to show that all our "rules" of good play are ones the community has come up with and enforces.

Does it probably drive a few new players away? Yes. I'm almost positive it does. And that's unfortunate. But clans like TKO, with Warster pointing out they would typically lose 2 top-10 caliber countries per set to suiciders, have no obligation to a random new player, but they do have an obligation to the players under their tag. I don't blame tags like TKO (and others, I don't mean to single them out) for going after suiciders preemptively.

I miss my farming homie!