SoF vs SOL War Predictions - Earth Empires Forum

lliaar

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Mar 5th 2014, 13:02:04

SOL is absolutely hammering SOF.

Where are all those fluffy maggots from gerneral SOF membership gone? Oh, probably flew the coup as soon as they found themselves in an even war.

What a fluffing joke of an alliance.

sampaul

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Mar 5th 2014, 13:17:37

SOL

hsifreta

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Mar 5th 2014, 18:02:02

it will be a tie.

Pride

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Mar 5th 2014, 18:39:40

Originally posted by Murf:

Think SoF will edge this in the end

Looks fun though

4-5 days ago Sof winning was a possibility. Current state unlikely.

Very fun though.

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Murf

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Mar 5th 2014, 20:37:29

Never looked at the stats tbh lol

DespicableMe

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Mar 6th 2014, 2:22:00

Originally posted by Murf:

Never looked at the stats tbh lol

why? Are we not basing our arguments on it?

galleri

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Mar 6th 2014, 3:21:58

Originally posted by lliaar:

Someone spelled llaar's name wrong.

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MauricXe

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Mar 6th 2014, 13:18:20

Originally posted by Servant:

If, SOF wins, LAF's early war with Neo/Rage can be thanked, as the early war cut LAF"s tech production and has created a higher tech market for SOF"s techers....(which SOL historically doesn't have.)

ofc you would somehow make this about LaF saving SoF's backside lmao.

Thanks for the laugh.

CandyMan

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Mar 6th 2014, 15:30:59

Not really the early war cutting out of LaF's tech production. We actually had very few techers this reset. It was more killing Nerdrage's techers cutting down the supply combined with a typical land trading reset for others.

Servant's rankings, by the way, in my opinion are totally biased. He'll make it seem like he's this objective guy giving rankings but on the back end will do things and talk to people to make his predictions come true. Quite clever, but pretty obvious.

mdevol

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Mar 6th 2014, 19:24:30

Originally posted by MauricXe:

Originally posted by Servant:

If, SOF wins, LAF's early war with Neo/Rage can be thanked, as the early war cut LAF"s tech production and has created a higher tech market for SOF"s techers....(which SOL historically doesn't have.)

ofc you would somehow make this about LaF saving SoF's backside lmao.

Thanks for the laugh.

did you jump back to SoF or are you still tagged neo? just curious

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MauricXe

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Mar 6th 2014, 23:37:33

Your spies are horribly misinformed. I'm in neither.

But thanks for playing.

King_Cobra1

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Mar 7th 2014, 0:17:57

MauricXe was never in Neo.

mdevol

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Mar 7th 2014, 0:31:54

Ha. I was just curious

Edited By: mdevol on Mar 7th 2014, 0:56:26

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mdevol

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Mar 7th 2014, 0:35:09

Then i stand corrected.

I guess i just assumed from my convo with neo leadership, that you not being in SoF would mean you went to neo with the others, Oh well. Cant be right all the time.

Seems like an odd set to leave with all the campaigning for 1v1 and finally getting it. And not even warring...

Also, how about those Wolverines ;-) Go Blue!

Edited By: mdevol on Mar 7th 2014, 0:58:50

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MauricXe

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Mar 7th 2014, 2:21:10

Well you coming back to admit you were wrong is something new. That's a change from the last time we "spoke" on AT.

Anonymous

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Mar 7th 2014, 2:46:41

d20

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Mar 7th 2014, 7:04:14

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Murf

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Mar 7th 2014, 12:54:18

My post was based entirely on my experiences of past SoF sol engagements, I'm old let me enjoy my retirement

Makinso

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Mar 7th 2014, 13:40:24

lol murf.

Have a beer ;) and glance at the stats ;)

How are ya?

mdevol

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Mar 7th 2014, 13:55:32

30 days left in the reset, a lot of war left.

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Murf

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Mar 7th 2014, 15:19:37

Don't drink as much given the job lol, but I'm good

Makinso

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Mar 7th 2014, 19:48:43

I miss you flaming SOL though :-P

Syko_Killa

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Mar 7th 2014, 20:30:09

Looks Like SoL has about 10+more members so I don't know how this is seen as an even war. But it is definately a good war. If I wasn't so tired of Restarting from scratch I might have even jumped over and assisted SoF for the remainder of the set. But I doubt they would open there doors for me anyways. Looks like a fun war.

Do as I say, not as I do.

mdevol

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Mar 7th 2014, 21:40:55

Not to get into strategy or anything but SoL is only about 5 ahead of SoF.

This is the 1v1 we have both wanted for a year but couldn't make happen because of outside agendas.

Enjoy it.

Edited By: mdevol on Mar 7th 2014, 21:49:58

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aponic

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Mar 7th 2014, 23:37:27

Don't know where you are getting 5 but ok

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Alin

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Mar 7th 2014, 23:48:00

The truth seeker of the forum ( symac ) should come and tell us exactly what`s going on.

Anyway i think HPM and HPK tells all about this war.

iScode

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Mar 7th 2014, 23:59:32

Aponic, starting members were 60 vs 54.

Not sure who the inactive fluffs are...

Alin I agree with on you on HPM, I think this is the only stat that tells all about this war. HPK is a little skewed due to (i went to get the AB stats, liberty has done more AB's, more nukes/cruise as well as more grabs, so ok, its both HPM and HPK.)

Based on that I would like to throw out the suggestion that SoL is cheating and using a walling bot. I mean since when has Suni woke up at 2am???? (this is called the makinso defence, things start to go wrong so you blame cheating :P) (pps incase any one actually thinks I am suggesting SoL of cheating, im not...)

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TeckMing

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Mar 8th 2014, 0:34:31

Ya since when Suni walled?

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sampaul

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Mar 8th 2014, 0:42:52

Start of War Levels
Clan Networth Land Countries
Liberty 147,692,899 488,076 60
Total 147,692,899 488,076 60

Start of War Levels
Clan Networth Land Countries
SoF 142,763,992 462,392 57
Total 142,763,992 462,392 57

Pride

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Mar 8th 2014, 1:48:23

It was an even war no one could say otherwise. As even gets around here that's for sure.

In regards to Suni cheating, yes she is cheating on you with me. I keep her up late ;)

Haha

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locket

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Mar 8th 2014, 2:31:26

Evenish. Sol had the FS so that is obviously a big deal. The only even war is even members where both prepare for the same day. That doesnt happen here so this is good enough I guess.

mdevol

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Mar 8th 2014, 4:51:41

Good war so far.

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Pride

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Mar 8th 2014, 5:09:20

Originally posted by locket:

Evenish. Sol had the FS so that is obviously a big deal. The only even war is even members where both prepare for the same day. That doesnt happen here so this is good enough I guess.

Sol also has me, and I myself am 10 extra SOLers. That right there is the unfair part. :)

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Souly

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Mar 8th 2014, 10:39:33

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dossw780

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Mar 8th 2014, 14:36:41

die sof

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Murf

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Mar 8th 2014, 15:30:20

I never really flamed anyone in war

Scorba

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Mar 8th 2014, 16:52:17

Sof had 57 countries but detagged 3 pre-war, one of which later tagged back up. Since Sol didn't detag any of their small inactives pre-war 57 to 60 is a more realistic comparison. I know Sol had a couple of late returners after that as well and both tags have peaked over their war starting levels of 54 and 60.

Sof fought a good war despite eating a FS. They nearly caught up in networth at one point using their cash stocks and active wallers to break ours but as Sol switched to more ABs and Sof's cash ran out the initial advantage by Sol took over again.

The difference in production is too much for Sof to recover from at this point without some drastic and unlikely change or outside interference.

Alin

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Mar 8th 2014, 20:11:53

Nods.

Sof did put up a good fight and walled good. It was a good fight until this point, but it`s all over now.

Sol dominates kills, HPM , HPK and all the other war barometers thus achieving total victory. It is pointless to argue the FS, members or any other thing in the given circumstances.

locket

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Mar 8th 2014, 20:44:14

Uhh.. I dont think you understand how war works Alin.

HPM and HPK and numerous other things are better when you are winning. If you have more countries dying to an FS then your HPM will be worse. If you have less overall NW then you rely on worse countries to do the breaking and your HPK will probably end up worse too. Not to mention that I very much doubt you are excluding AB's and such fromt he equations.

Alin

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Mar 8th 2014, 20:52:31

Alin

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Mar 8th 2014, 20:55:00

an alliance with 60-70 members ( with the new restart rules ) can have better hpk and hpm even if fighting against 150 members. And i am not excluding anything.

But keep trolling for the shake of it.

Raging Budda

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Mar 8th 2014, 22:09:06

I have thourghly enjoyed this war, glad it was able to happen. These "even" wars tend to be few and far between.

Your base is mine!

Makinso

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Mar 8th 2014, 22:37:05

I don't agree with you there locket.

Specially with the new restart rules where you can come out swinging at 15 turns played as a "restart" your HPM can still be better then the FSing party's HPM. HPM really all comes down to efficient readiness use, somewhat to missiles but mostly member activity. Of course spending more turns breaking on higher military ratio's tends to numb down your readiness but there are very creative and lucrative ways to be still be efficient when in a bad spot.

locket

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Mar 8th 2014, 23:24:47

If you die then you almost inevitably have something to rebuild or replace which means some of your turns over the next few days are less likely to be spent on hitting or war related activities and more on rebuilding stuff destroyed by BR and such. It has an affect still.

Maybe that has been lessened which is good but it still affects it.

Sof had a chance to win and it looks like they wont so by saying this I dont take anything away from Sol. I just think it is stupid to pretend that an FS means nothing suddenly.

Suni

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Mar 9th 2014, 0:16:49

I only have one thing to say.......it is officially a real war now, SoF finally managed to kill me ;)

mdevol

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Mar 9th 2014, 0:35:57

The war is far from over.

SoL, let the talking happen in the war room. We have nothing to prove on AT.

Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

iScode

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Mar 9th 2014, 6:22:35

lockets not from sof mdevol.

On a side note locket, Sol's HPK and HPM have been better than ours all war, not just when they have been winning, when we nearly caught up our HPM took the lead for maybe 2 or 3 days but that is all.

On a side note, Pride just admitted SoL is cheating, he is running 10 countries...

:P

iScode
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SethMosrite

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Mar 9th 2014, 17:51:43

This game should pause on the weekends, we would be in much better shape.