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iScode Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 3:19:09

Ok so my little experience in ffa this set and my 1 on 1 friendly war with ford has had me thinking that a little competition would be fantastic for the game.

I am really enjoying the war that i think we could have a king warmonger tournament. There are a couple of ways we could do this and I think with a little help from mods (even have them moderate/run the tournament) we could make this very enjoyable and a great spectacle.

The basic theory is simple. A knockout tournament which starts of with say 32 people (numbers doesnt need to be exact), there is a draw and you get an opponent. You have a 1 on 1 war on FFA, no outside interference of any kind and no restarting so just 16 countries each. Winner is the tag with the most NW at the end of the war and they move on till the next round until we get semi finals and finals.

The countries will have to be all explore only so no incoming or outgoing attacks until the fs time, have the mods set it up so they are on the server but can not be attacked or attack until the planned fs date and once that time hits they can only hit there enemy (otherwise some people can just have friends suicide the countries not making the war fair, im unsure on this point though).


I dunno just a thought I had, would be interested to see peoples thoughts and what the mods think, I have no idea how hard or easy it would be to set up but if people are keen and the mods are keen i dont mind trying to organise and make this work, i think it would be great and especially over a year where you get to a final fighting for the best warmonger of the year, especially as it incorperates everything that makes a good warmonger, activity, country build, exploiting enemy weakness, and the no restarting factor really adds an extra level of skill to the game, it will get to a point where nether side can kill so will rely on the best skills at keeping an enemy at bay while growing yourself.

anyway let me know your thoughts, I posted this on AT too to get there opinion

on a side note for people who did not know about my one on one, ford is beating me, he had far superior country builds but i think my activity will eventually balance this out, here is a link to the stats.

http://earthgraphs.com/...75851eb3d57cad7354d1fbf9b
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Vic Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 3:19:56

sounds like a fun idea to me

iScode Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 3:20:34

oh also, the mods can set a 72 hour fs period time and then both people would need to agree on the exact fs time, if no agreement can be made thats where the mods decide the exact time attacks open up from.
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Nov 18th 2013, 3:23:15

I can think of some damn good ones that wouldn't participate just because they don't want to run more than 1 country.
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iScode Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 3:25:29

I understand that, i dislike it as well, but its the only real way to have a tourny really, if they dont particpate thats fine, it will take nothing away from the winner imo
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Pride Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 4:17:25

I played FFA once, way to much work.

locket Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 4:51:43

Are you talking about doing this on the FFA server or on a new one?

Also you dont stand a chance in hell of coming back in that fight unless Ford is a giant fluffup.

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Nov 18th 2013, 4:51:48

Yeah this post wasn't directed at a player like you Pride :P

On topic, I don't think this would work in FFA at all without mod help as there are always idiots that will ruin the fun. Surprisingly IMP are not the idiots I was referring to.

I think you would have to create a whole other server to do this, and maybe not 16, but 5-6(just enough for one to get a kill).

In the end though, it will basically be which person spends more time at their comp comes out a winner...
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Nov 18th 2013, 4:59:17

I was going to say that if I had known those two were warring on FFA I would have made some countries to pay a visit :P It wont work over there Id assume

iScode Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 5:12:08

well it would have to be on a current server otherwise market and such would be all fluffed up hence the mods making it so they can not be attacked.

Also i think 5-6 countries would not be enough, 16 is good with no restarting, gives people a chance to come back if they can use superior tactics. 5-6 countries make it more on activity than 16 countries.

and yes locket, i know this. The only going for me is my activity over his. I knew this going into the war, but we both had nothing to do for the rest of the set so why not have some fun.
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Nov 18th 2013, 5:19:02

Interesting idea, but I think someone from NBK or CC would win it.
Too much familiarity with FFA is simply too large of an advantage.

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Nov 18th 2013, 7:45:24

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Alin Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 12:45:02

16 countries ?

I can barely play 2 ( on alliance and express )

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Nov 18th 2013, 13:16:31

b to the onus

SakitSaPuwit Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 14:09:58

I would play ffa just to missle people doing this!
Who am I kidding I am to lazy to play ffa
but what do i know?
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Zahc Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 14:10:12

Originally posted by elvesrus:
I can think of some damn good ones that wouldn't participate just because they don't want to run more than 1 country.


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Nov 18th 2013, 14:10:58

I would play ffa just to missle people doing this!
Who am I kidding I am to lazy to play ffa
but what do i know?
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Atryn Game profile

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Nov 18th 2013, 17:18:11


Isn't there a whole board for FFA?

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Nov 18th 2013, 17:39:41

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Nov 18th 2013, 23:31:03

i posted there to atryn, i was just saying everyone likes to gloat how good they are, prove it.

i see most people are to 'lazy' to prove it.
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Nov 19th 2013, 0:03:15

Originally posted by Mr Emerald:


In the end though, it will basically be which person spends more time at their comp comes out a winner...



ummm . . .
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Rockman Game profile

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Nov 19th 2013, 0:49:37

No restarting is a dumb rule. A key part of war is knowing how to turn a restart into a useful country. That rule also makes kills too powerful, and minimizes the importance of knowing how to effectively use wartime tactics aside from killing.

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Nov 19th 2013, 0:52:46

sounds good

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Nov 19th 2013, 1:04:32

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Nov 19th 2013, 1:07:41

Sounds nifty
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Nov 19th 2013, 3:05:08

I will win, just like anything else in this game

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Nov 19th 2013, 4:12:30

6-8 with restarting could be another interesting way to do this

DStone Rocks Game profile

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Nov 19th 2013, 4:22:56

Sounds dope if u make so ppl with lives can get in on it... FFA is pure insanity. Im game for this kind of competition on express or something tho.

iScode Game profile

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Nov 19th 2013, 11:58:34

Originally posted by Rockman:
No restarting is a dumb rule. A key part of war is knowing how to turn a restart into a useful country. That rule also makes kills too powerful, and minimizes the importance of knowing how to effectively use wartime tactics aside from killing.


I duno, this is a 50/50 for me, well i do love restarting, no restarts does make your ability to wall a key factor. I guess if it was aimed to incorporate everyone then you should include restarts, With the mods setting the fs time (i was thinking a 72 hour period around half way through an alliance/ffa set, the restarts can be be very powerfull and basically better strategy will win hands down compared to actual warring ability. (in saying this people may have very different views than me on what constitutes waring ability, which i can understand.)

Personally i like the idea of no restarts, it incorporates strategy and walling but doesnt focus solely on strategy which i think restarting does.

I dunno i dont claim to be a master strategist or planner, it was just an idea i had, tbh i am happy to help set up and run the tourny and will participate no matter the rules, if the community can come up with some set rules which everyone is happy with i think this could be quite entertaining.
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iScode Game profile

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Nov 19th 2013, 12:00:53

also as a really big plus, it will make war mongers want to concentrate on this which will give netters on alliance/team and FFA space to net in peace, i swear!!! :D
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Nov 19th 2013, 12:30:52

I am.

Soultaker

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Nov 19th 2013, 17:55:50

i like the idea but maybe make it 10-12 countries with maximum 2 restarts each then things would get interesting you'd have to use strategy and wormongering skils

Also i think a server like express would be to fast for it since some ppl do have to work and would not have the actual time to play

I'm all game for it though :P

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Nov 19th 2013, 22:39:09

I'm game

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Nov 20th 2013, 0:49:34

I'd do it. This could be set up just like the tourney server with small allotments in each group
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Nov 20th 2013, 1:13:53

2 restarts and then you're knocked out.

That keeps the strategy involved...take out a bigger country? Or knock someone out and have less hits for the other team:)

I also think there should be a built in UNAP between fighting forces, so everyone gets X number of turns available before you go to war...So country building skills are a part of this also.
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Rockman Game profile

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Nov 20th 2013, 3:28:46

Originally posted by iScode:
Originally posted by Rockman:
No restarting is a dumb rule. A key part of war is knowing how to turn a restart into a useful country. That rule also makes kills too powerful, and minimizes the importance of knowing how to effectively use wartime tactics aside from killing.


I duno, this is a 50/50 for me, well i do love restarting, no restarts does make your ability to wall a key factor. I guess if it was aimed to incorporate everyone then you should include restarts, With the mods setting the fs time (i was thinking a 72 hour period around half way through an alliance/ffa set, the restarts can be be very powerfull and basically better strategy will win hands down compared to actual warring ability. (in saying this people may have very different views than me on what constitutes waring ability, which i can understand.)

Personally i like the idea of no restarts, it incorporates strategy and walling but doesnt focus solely on strategy which i think restarting does.

I dunno i dont claim to be a master strategist or planner, it was just an idea i had, tbh i am happy to help set up and run the tourny and will participate no matter the rules, if the community can come up with some set rules which everyone is happy with i think this could be quite entertaining.


Strategy is a part of war. How can you evaluate someone's warring ability, if their ability to produce/purchase military is supposed to considered irrelevant?

If you want to evaluate people solely on their ability to stonewall, don't call it "best warmonger" call it "best stonewaller".

iScode Game profile

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Nov 20th 2013, 4:33:07

where in the hell did i say i wanted to evaluate people solely on their ability. You sir, need to learn how to read...
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Nov 20th 2013, 5:13:58

Originally posted by Servant:
2 restarts and then you're knocked out.

That keeps the strategy involved...take out a bigger country? Or knock someone out and have less hits for the other team:)

I also think there should be a built in UNAP between fighting forces, so everyone gets X number of turns available before you go to war...So country building skills are a part of this also.


that was exactly why i suggested it

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Nov 20th 2013, 5:47:54

I think restarting should be included. And quite frankly past the first ~300 turns or so (depending on your strat) FFA isn't that hard. Using the control panel to buy and sell good saves a lot of time. I have warred quite a bit on Team, Alliance and FFA. Many times I spend the least time warring in FFA.

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Nov 20th 2013, 6:17:49

While I would love to throw my hat in the ring, I genuinely think playing 16 countries at once would overwhelm me tbh. Not used to playing that many, especially on the spin.
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Nov 20th 2013, 11:35:25

Originally posted by Mr Emerald:
Yeah this post wasn't directed at a player like you Pride :P

On topic, I don't think this would work in FFA at all without mod help as there are always idiots that will ruin the fun. Surprisingly IMP are not the idiots I was referring to.

I think you would have to create a whole other server to do this, and maybe not 16, but 5-6(just enough for one to get a kill).

In the end though, it will basically be which person spends more time at their comp comes out a winner...


ffa isn't a fluff server like here... if you wanted to war just announce it and people will leave you alone.
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Nov 20th 2013, 12:00:33

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Nov 20th 2013, 16:55:28

Interesting iscode

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Nov 20th 2013, 19:26:57

I single-handedly killed around 20 countries last reset, and 13 countries this reset.


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iScode Game profile

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Nov 20th 2013, 22:24:15

thats cherry picking :P
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Nov 20th 2013, 22:25:48

Murf, you are semi retired, you can work on this idea and make it awesome since you are not playing, i know you would be able to mold my half decent idea into a good one :P
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