Upon further investigation by the admins, it has been determined that the IP addresses involved were attached to proxy servers at the time of the hackings. The proxy servers had been used by RD members in the past, but there is not enough evidence to conclusively tie the same RD members to what happened to Boxcar over the past couple of weeks.

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Ok, that paragraph up there was just for those who used the mouse-over tool to try to see what the topic was really about before clicking on the link. No RD countries have been reinstated. In fact, no RD countries will ever be reinstated this reset.

You crybabies who believe that playing in an alliance known for blatant cheating in the past means that no problems will crop up in the future should have realized that the people who actually cheated in the past may just try to do it again sometime in the future. Given that some of you whiners are threatening to leave the game and not come back, please do so. The players who play cleanly do not need or want your kind among them or even associated with them.

No, I didn't really post this to add any discussion to the board; I just wanted to see where this thread would go.

Reap the whirlwind, baby! Reap the whirlwind!

damn. you got my hopes up. thought I'd be able to finish the set cleanly with my nonexistent country. :-(

I wont leave, I will just randomly AB and missile dump every netgainer that I can as a sign of protest :)

Why do they still let hanlong "openly" play? That's one of the dumbest things I've heard. Once his identity is revealed, the country should be made purple. Can you stop him from coming back completely, if he hides his identity? Maybe not. But you can sure delete him every time he's made known, and you absolutely should be doing so. I saw multiple posts by admins about how the permaban wasn't followed, well, you knew he skirted it and you didn't even try to enforce it. What's up with that? Anytime he "openly" joins an alliance I'm sure someone in that alliance will gladly report it to you. How can you purple an entire clan and not this guy?

LOL, superfly has the right idea.

Last time I heard about hanlong, it was current Laf heads saying he has account access in Laf, but doesn't play a country. But now it's common knowledge that he plays?



Remember how people hate KJ and like to bring his name up in relation to Evo every chance they get? Well KJ didn't hack the fluffing game, he was just an offensive ass. AND WE PERMABANNED HIM FOR IT! Please take a fluffing page from our book and do the right godamned thing.

I swear the next time I hear ANYTHING about diez, kj and edge running suiciders, I'm gonna fluffing flip.

we don't let hanlong play. He is still banned.

If hanlong is logging into the laf site and talking to people
and that's all he is doing then that's between him and laf.
KJ isn't permabanned from the forums afaik.

To my knowledge he doesn't play. He just helps out with site and irc stuff.

This is also the first time I've seen someone say he is banned as well, I was under the impression it was just TC that was banned permanently.

We as in Evo. We booted someone and banned him because he was an ass, not because he cheated and hacked. If anyone ever is proven guilty of cheating in my alliance, they are GONE. No questions asked, no forgiveness given. End of story.

and you use what tools to determine whether or not they cheated and can prove the identity of every account and that it'll only be accessed by the legitimate owner?

Would you boot people who are schmucks/cheaters on other servers?

That's a good question :/ As we are solely a 1a Alliance, maybe not, but I guess it depends on the situation. I'd ask qz to check their 1a activity though, at the very least.

Whatever tools the admins use to determine these sorts of things, obviously. If 4 admins agreed that one of my members was a cheater, then he's a cheater and I don't want him in my alliance.

are you going to self-delete the entire tag everytime that you discover a cheater in your midst because you can't determine the exact benefit that that particular cheater gave to your tag?

ah well, sounded promising for a minute there

No, but if the admins decided to delete my tag because one of my LEADERS was hacking, I'd have to swallow it up and accept it. I can guarantee you that.

Lol, well, I'm leading a 1a alliance and I don't play on other servers. I sure as hell would pass whatever information I could to the admins and help them either condemn or clear my member.

Why is it that when it comes to cheating and shady activities we hear, laf, sof, rd? Good job to the guys in SPERM.

If teen angst and crying could be converted into useful energy, Pang and QZ would be getting paid for running this game.

I see adds every day in here, your a fool to think their is no gains being made, even if the gains made are just to keep the game online....

Notice that I said "getting paid FOR RUNNING THIS GAME". They're not getting paid for running this game now, they're getting paid for allowing advertisers an extra outlet for their stuff.

Remember SoL is always good, join the good side of EE!

Wow, funny statement.... Thats like saying, “Those who try to lead the people can only do so by following the mob” or “Nothing that is worth knowing can be taught.”... If they were not "getting paid FOR RUNNING THIS GAME" there would be no advertisements and there would be no profit and more likely than not, be no game..... We might not pay them directly to play but they are getting bank on running the game. You would need to be one real cool ass mother to keep this game going out of pocket... I know I wouldn't, way to much real world stuff to take care of. Or maybe they spoiled brats who come from money(jk, you guys rock!), I don't know them like that.

I was merely claiming that they are getting paid for keeping the game running. More hits more money...

But ya... It really has nothing to do with this topic. I just found your statement false(imo) and felt I wanted to call you out :P, start fires and all that. You know, what AT is all good for :P

In end statement, I acknowledge they do not get paid as if this was a job, compensated for their time which is what you more than likely were trying to say. I just like busting balls :P

And don't get me wrong, I love the time they put into it. This game has some of the best game moderators I have ever had to deal with. Its a shame they don't get paid as if it was a job, lord knows they put in enough time :P

+1. :) The creation of a new "suicider". LOL

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This is a very valid question. I'm absolutely sure that it is possible to rid the game of known cheaters and protect the true players of the game. Why is a known cheater allowed to openly play?

If I've read some posts correctly, Hanlong isn't actually playing the game. He's just logging into the LaF alliance site and talking to ppl.

This. He played the occasional forum Werewolf game on the shared forum between TIE/RD/LaF.

ZOMG

He played at LEAST one country in Laf before I left there Nuk so I wouldnt be so believing of what people say here. He was not under the name Hanlong at the time though.