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Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:15:08

=)

locket Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:15:48

Uh... real is pretty subjective this set :P My personal opinion is the netters need to agree on some rules to actually follow for once :P This is getting out of hand on all accounts.

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:17:39

1 LET THE BOY WATCH (#288) 95,419 $436,873,090
VS

1 JUST WARI BEING WARI 24 150,201 acres $429,184,598



GOKU would have won anyways?
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Devestation Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:17:57

Pfft, Goku hasn't won until the scores update. Hail Wari! :P

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:18:36

It's updated already, lol
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Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:19:55

Look at all the cry babies who turned up!

bertz Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:20:54

Typical LaF. :)

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:22:39

Grats Wari

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:24:32

Grats on third place Wari :)

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:29:19

Originally posted by Forgotten:
It's updated already, lol

awww.

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:45:00

No one won. Landtrading is gay. You guys all lost.

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:48:59

Lowest ranked legit rank 1 ever?

Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:49:58

Originally posted by Forgotten:
1 LET THE BOY WATCH (#288) 95,419 $436,873,090
VS

1 JUST WARI BEING WARI 24 150,201 acres $429,184,598



GOKU would have won anyways?


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.

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SolidSnake Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 0:52:43

Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.

Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 1:01:25

Originally posted by SolidSnake:
Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.


When you take away laf's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, goku drops well bellow wari.

SolidSnake Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 1:10:38

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by SolidSnake:
Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.


When you take away laf's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, goku drops well bellow wari.


When you add 4 tiers to pdm's netgaining ability they are 16th tier.

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Apr 6th 2013, 1:32:28

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by SolidSnake:
Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.


When you take away laf's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, goku drops well bellow wari.


What does this mean?

Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 1:34:48

Originally posted by downsay2:
Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by SolidSnake:
Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.


When you take away laf's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, goku drops well bellow wari.


What does this mean?


Same thing as SS' post - nothing. His baseless claims are baseless.

Son Goku Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:20:22

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by downsay2:
Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by SolidSnake:
Originally posted by Detmer:


When you take away #164's 27M NW in FA that Goku suddenly drops well below Wari.


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.


When you take away laf's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, goku drops well bellow wari.


What does this mean?


Same thing as SS' post - nothing. His baseless claims are baseless.


Baseless? Everyone saw the tech buyouts and we happen to have spy ops of his actual stock before his mass aid. Logic was never your strong point though.

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:21:48

He is a forum mod after all,

watch out!
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Son Goku Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:22:23

Originally posted by Forgotten:
He is a forum mod after all,

watch out!


And a failed alliance leader, wait, what are we talking about?

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:34:33

Originally posted by Son Goku:
Originally posted by Forgotten:
He is a forum mod after all,

watch out!


And a failed alliance leader, wait, what are we talking about?


I dunno, wanna go find some dragon balls?
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Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:37:08

Originally posted by Son Goku:
Originally posted by Forgotten:
He is a forum mod after all,

watch out!


And a failed alliance leader, wait, what are we talking about?


Paradigm grew massively under my lead and we revolutionized how the game is played. Your massive FA-fueled networth was largely enabled due to my policies which persisted well past my activity. The fact that you even try to attack me in that regard shows insecure you are about your lack of a legacy. I am sorry. Even presidents of great nations can go down as failures. You did less with more. My condolences.

And yes, baseless. 180M+ NW in marktet aid is simply ridiculous. I know you are capable of doing the math on his country which tells me you are intentionally lying about what his country was capable. Sorry, you have been fact-checked.

locket Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:39:22

Less with more? Goku won ANW titles and triple crowns and finished near the top each set.... PDM won..... PDM had fun I guess sometimes and played the way they wanted to and died for it sometimes.... so they didnt exactly beat Laf at anything.

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:44:51

Originally posted by Son Goku:


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.

Baseless? Everyone saw the tech buyouts and we happen to have spy ops of his actual stock before his mass aid. Logic was never your strong point though.
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180m+ aid?

Right. I stockpiled on 95 mil NW and wouldn't have jumped more than 160m.

I mean, nevermind the facts.

(facts -- 240 turns onhand w 150k acre rainbow cashing 72-75 mil equivilant/turn with 7 stockpiling days left = 59 bil cash, 262 million in the jump -- did i mention I stockpiled on 95 mil NW?)

You guys are running out of things to make up.

Son Goku Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:50:42

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by Son Goku:
Originally posted by Forgotten:
He is a forum mod after all,

watch out!


And a failed alliance leader, wait, what are we talking about?


Paradigm grew massively under my lead and we revolutionized how the game is played. Your massive FA-fueled networth was largely enabled due to my policies which persisted well past my activity. The fact that you even try to attack me in that regard shows insecure you are about your lack of a legacy. I am sorry. Even presidents of great nations can go down as failures. You did less with more. My condolences.


Guess you have to tell yourself something after multiple failed netgaining resets and warring sets. You must get tired of constantly failing at everything though. No wonder you redefine sucess, IT'S ALL ABOUT FUN AM I RIGHT? You can't lose at having fun.

Detmer Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:52:16

Originally posted by wari:
Originally posted by Son Goku:


When you take away pdm's 180m+ nw worth of market aid, wari drops well bellow goku.

Baseless? Everyone saw the tech buyouts and we happen to have spy ops of his actual stock before his mass aid. Logic was never your strong point though.





180m+ aid?

Right. I stockpiled on 95 mil NW and wouldn't have jumped more than 160m.

I mean, nevermind the facts.

(facts -- 240 turns onhand w 150k acre rainbow cashing 72-75 mil equivilant/turn with 7 stockpiling days left = 59 bil cash, 262 million in the jump -- did i mention I stockpiled on 95 mil NW?)

You guys are running out of things to make up.


PDM BEATS LAF AT CALCULATOR!!!

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Apr 6th 2013, 2:54:09

Just because your calculator is broken, doesn't mean it's right.
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madjsp Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 3:00:26

I didn't get any of this PDM market help. I am angry.

yay me and my over 100M networth!
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joe3: bater sucks so bad imag could teach him a thing about war

ingle Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 3:01:09

I guess if we assume Wari's stock generation is correct...assume he could generate 59 bil cash and his 262 mil jump and 95 mil initial nw.

During the switch from Dict to Mon, he still would've lost the same nw.

2013-04-02 17:39:01 JUST WARI BEING WARI $74,376,608 150,141 acres MG Paradigm
2013-04-02 17:33:02 JUST WARI BEING WARI $99,179,409 150,141 acres IG Paradigm

So really 262 + 75 = 337

Still not top 10.

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Apr 6th 2013, 3:03:59

A Wild 100m networth appears!
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Pride Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 3:41:41

Why did LAF missile PDM that makes no sense?

Laf was going to take #1 regardless, so why was wari attacked?

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Apr 6th 2013, 3:44:07

For jokes and giggles? ;)

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Apr 6th 2013, 4:09:10

in my opinion this set is a wash because of the broken land trading mechanic, hope qz fixes things

Requiem Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 4:56:38

If by real you mean, not actually #1 and really #3 then you go it!

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Apr 6th 2013, 4:58:56

Originally posted by Detmer:
PDM BEATS LAF AT CALCULATOR!!!

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Apr 6th 2013, 13:06:57

Pies forum mods...SPLAT!

Thomas Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 13:23:20

Originally posted by Pride:
Why did LAF missile PDM that makes no sense?

Laf was going to take #1 regardless, so why was wari attacked?


LaF's attempt to provoke PDM to FS them. If LaF FSes PDM then PDM gets to call in help. By provoking the FS, it's a 1v1 that is easily in LaF's favor.

Pretty blatant, and failed miserably. Gonna have to try better than that.

Son Goku Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 16:26:36

Originally posted by Thomas:
Originally posted by Pride:
Why did LAF missile PDM that makes no sense?

Laf was going to take #1 regardless, so why was wari attacked?


If LaF FSes PDM then PDM gets to call in help.


OH GOD NO! WHAT EVER WOULD WE DO.

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Apr 6th 2013, 17:02:17

Thomas I know your entire EE career you've been good at getting your alliances into war... But do you really want to war LaF?

Honestly it wouldn't be a smart move for PDM. I welcome it. You suck and who you going to call in? MD? Has MD ever helped PDM in EE? Don't think they have. Even if they do... Well lets just say they've lost their wars 4 sets in a row...

Please provoke eugene into FSing you that'd make my set. You don't know when to keep your mouth shut.

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Apr 6th 2013, 17:34:14

Yes please, I need more land!
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wari Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 17:37:24

Originally posted by ingle:
I guess if we assume Wari's stock generation is correct...assume he could generate 59 bil cash and his 262 mil jump and 95 mil initial nw.

During the switch from Dict to Mon, he still would've lost the same nw.

2013-04-02 17:39:01 JUST WARI BEING WARI $74,376,608 150,141 acres MG Paradigm
2013-04-02 17:33:02 JUST WARI BEING WARI $99,179,409 150,141 acres IG Paradigm

So really 262 + 75 = 337

Still not top 10.


This is somewhat true.

What you're not including is 30-35 mil points tech stockpile, which was the reason for the 95 mil NW -- and part of the reason we decided to ad-lib a tech buyout.

Without the planned buyout, I could/would have dumped 5-10 mil NW extra in tech pre-switch, saved 2-4 mil NW loss switching. Whatever, somewhat negligible.

I still would have sold (roughly) 15-18 mil points of tech at, lets say, an average of $850 -- over the final week.

Well, there's 12 billion dollars I didn't have before. Adds 20 million to 335-340. At least.

Plus PCI booms. There's an extra 9m NW over 7 days.

Yeah, right around 250 mil. Sounds about right.

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Apr 6th 2013, 17:48:13

Wait, wait wait.

Detmer said the buyout was not planned.

Wari now says it is.

so what is it?

Can you just accept the fact that with 150k acres you didn't break 500m, that you don't deserve to win?
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Apr 6th 2013, 17:53:41

Originally posted by Detmer:
=)


this is pretty much the reason why i don't worry about global warming being anthropogenic.
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Apr 6th 2013, 18:39:40

"Plus PCI booms. There's an extra 9m NW over 7 days."

You were positive in both food and cash, SG's numbers included using bonus turns which would have given you more NW gained. So added in your 12b for dumping the tech without the buyouts and you end up closer to 275m NW or around, 19th. Better then the 26th he gave you credit for but far from the real rank 1.

Edited By: Armadillo on Apr 6th 2013, 18:47:53
See Original Post

wari Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 19:05:35

Forgotten,

You know what ad-lib means, don't you? You seem confused.

Armadillo,

You and SG should check your numbers on PCI/turn bonuses. Or don't.

As you conveniently seemed to gloss over, I was looking at 335-340 mil with no tech sales, not the 250 million number one of your guys pulled out of one of his orifices. As a side note, I believe you came to that 250 million number when you forgot to include 230-240 turns onhand in my "stockpile" -- which is 18 billion dollars = 81 million NW conveniently enough, brining your "estimate" to about 330m vs mine of 335-340m.

I wouldn't have won unaided, I'd have been sabotaged if I were in a position to do so just as I was.

Unaided, Goku, darkness, ingle(?), and I would have all been 350-385 mil NW. I'd have likely finished 3rd-7th....as the dictator rainbow who was suicided for 30k acres with a couple weeks to go in the reset.

IN CONCLUSION, I MUST SUCK AT THIS GAME :)

I'm done here. You trolls have fun.

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Apr 6th 2013, 19:12:05

Wari has unmatched skills that would be better served in Utopia.
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Pride Game profile

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Apr 6th 2013, 19:28:04

Originally posted by Requiem:
Thomas I know your entire EE career you've been good at getting your alliances into war... But do you really want to war LaF?

Honestly it wouldn't be a smart move for PDM. I welcome it. You suck and who you going to call in? MD? Has MD ever helped PDM in EE? Don't think they have. Even if they do... Well lets just say they've lost their wars 4 sets in a row...

Please provoke eugene into FSing you that'd make my set. You don't know when to keep your mouth shut.


You talk to much.

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Apr 6th 2013, 20:05:06

Originally posted by wari:

Unaided, Goku, darkness, ingle(?), and I would have all been 350-385 mil NW. I'd have likely finished 3rd-7th....as the dictator rainbow who was suicided for 30k acres with a couple weeks to go in the reset.


I make 406m unaided, bakku makes the same NW he did, 394m. As does Titanium and his 377m. All you did was ruin a clean top 5, since you weren't going to make it without massive market aid.