Originally
posted by
Klown:
You're joking right? MA is a single state that could craft its health care law toward its 6 million people. That is in no way, not remotely, not at all similar to a national law that governs 300 million people with vastly different components.
Ronmeycare is pretty much the model Obamacare is built on.
I'm not even sure why this is even an issue. Mitt Romney ran away from it because it was a liability this election.
He's a spineless SOB for it, but when he signed it into law, it was meant to be his legacy issue.
And again, the individual mandate central to both Romneycare and Obamacare 'WAS' a Republican idea, before the party went apefluff right-wing after 2008.
Originally
posted by
trumper:
They lost for one reason: they received less votes. Why they received less votes can be attributed to a number of factors. Consistent higher minority turnout (and the obvious that goes with it of doing poorly with minority communities), an effective turnout machine focused on early voting by the Obama team, being defined by their opponent first (in fairness, this really dates back to Gingrich opening the floodgates on Romney), the so-called "war on women," and so forth.
I just find it amusing that some folks are beyond sensitive to the discussion at all. What I find more amusing is the presumption that being pro-life, for instance, makes one a warrior against women. If the same sensitivism was applied then one could make the case that presuming all women fit neatly into a box is absurd. Alas, defining perception is an age-old game in Washington.
I've heard this mentioned on the talk shows post election, but I think the fact that Republican operatives can go on TV and blame the democrats for starting this 'war on women' thing is kind of ridiculous and probably offensive to the same women you just turned away. It's essentially blaming the otherside for a wedge issue the Republicans introduced.
And abortion/women's right had been a reliable wedge issue for decades for the Republicans. Split the soft democratic vote away with fearmongering about abortions and turning it into a debate about piety.
But the big story this election is how these wedge issues are beginning to fail as even young republicans find the whole anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-contraception (hint: it's cheaper to put women on the pill than to abort a fetus) anti-fact based stance of the GOP repulsive.