No, we will need to address the economy, duh. My point is that in regards to the economy, there are so many ideas floating around on how to fix it that it'll require a bunch of debating/compromises to get it done and that will take time. People have many different opinions on how to go about fixing that. However - there's something that people shouldn't have any problem with and that's gay marriage. why are we treating some of our own citizens as second class citizens? it's a pretty simple problem to fix! just give them the rights that other citizens have. if you happen to disagree with that, then you can fluff right off because you obviously don't care for the declaration of independence and that famous line of 'all men are created equal'. if you don't like gays, why do you hate america?

u srs question?

Incin's stating that a good majority of the south votes for one party automatically without even considering the issues, countering the subtle race card that Klown played.

it's quite hiliarious. WHARRRRGRBLE GRRBLE GRRBLE, WE HATE WELFARE *loses election* WELFARE HERE I COME! lol

i asked my grandpa back in 1992 when he came back from casting his vote in the presidental election who he voted for. it kind of caught him off guard - and he said 'thomas, there are two things that your grandmother and I will not discuss with anyone other than ourselves. those two things are religion and politics. we've learned that in our experiences, nothing good tends to come out of those discussions. everyone always ends up hurt or not liking the other person even more. and i've never seen a political or religious discussion change anyones mind. we instead like to focus our energy on something positive, i like to tend to my garden, and your grandmother enjoys telling me what to do all the time.'

as i get older and older his answer gets more and more truer. grandpa was a wise man.

Concession that going to welfare turns someone Democratic? ;)

I don't have a problem with the reformed welfare program. I do laugh when some folks here try to credit Clinton neglecting to mention he only signed it on the third go around after being forced to by the then-new majority Republicans. Folks bemoan Gingrich and Co, but if you go back and look at the Contract with America and what they did and that first session then you will see a lot of reforms people talk about today. Clinton was just wise enough to triangulate and seize credit for the initiatives.

My big beef is with the common misperceptions about our budget/deficit scenarios. The reality is our entitlement (Medicare, Medicaid, SS, tax deductions we all enjoy, etc) and defense spending are driving the deficit. We can't solve it by taxing the rich (unless you adopt 80% tax rates on everyone over $150k and you tax all investments as income...which of course will chase of them away) or as some folks on my side of the aisle believe through simply slashing domestic spending. It's going to cost everyone money and Obama and Romney claiming it won't hit the middle class is laughable, at best.

I could go into more depth, but probably not worth it given I don't think most folks understand the Medicare system let alone federal budgeting.

More of a comment on how actually being on welfare would probably help them realize it's not a government funded luxury vacation but instead a system that will help you just and just get by

Quoting a astute liberal friend of mine, dependence is a strong tool in the arsenal of political weaponry.

I have nothing against helping people with a leg up. I just hate the notion of creating dependency. Quite frankly we also need to revisit our tax structure for the deductions (for all, not just the wealthy--aka, something that should have a geographic component given my income in Alabama is almost twice the purchasing parity as it is in DC). It may mean axing some popular deductions, but really they're all paid for on borrowed money.

For one I hope to god I aint alive in 30 years because if I am that means I still have to keep working because of the idiots in DC keep spending all the money and have left nothing for me to retire on.

Second I own my place now so why do I need to worry about that?

Third I only care about being able to pay my bills today because who knows how much longer I have in this life. No one is guaranteed tomorrow. But if I die tonight I know at least my wife has some money to pay the bills till she gets on her feet.

LMAO!!! A small business owner that actually wanted Romney?
You do realize that Obama more than doubled the funding for the SBA under his first term right? You do realize that Obama has lowered taxes on small businesses and not raised them?

Your business only managed to break even because of you and your absolute lack of knowing and using the resources that are available to you. Or it could just be that you have no clue what you are doing business wise and because you are an uneducated redneck that doesn't want the gerverment in ur bizness.

i believe he is an owner/operator trucker. there are more factors then simply taxes that are probably hurting his business. blaming obama for that im not sure is correct.

Well I have no idea how that type of business would operate, but still I can't see how Obama would be the cause of such things.

If it is purely economical condition, then why not blame Bush. While the economical growth has been slow, it has been steadily rising every year that Obama has been in office.

in that business its all the regulations that kill you. it costs a ton of money to keep a truck like that on the road (ins,maint,etc), not even counting the fact that they get 6 MPG and diesel is $4/gal+

For a trucking company to function properly you need to factor few vital things
1) fuel cost.
2)maintanance cost.
3)transportation rate.

If 1/2 your check goes for fuel, you have a BIG problem, we have a BIG problem, not only the fuel, but also the cost of maintaining your equipment has gone up so fast, we are being choked, 1 example, tires jjumped by $150 in the last year alone, oil jumped $3 a gallon (trk engines use 11 to 12 gallons per oil change once a month) repairs in last year also jumped from $65per hr to over $100per hr of labor, our operating taxes have also jumped from last year, and guess what, our rate (what we get paid) has been same for over a decade....dont tell me its my fault i cant even break even, bro!

And that's just the tip of the iceberg, you should see the environmental laws the California EPA is come up with, don't get me started....

I still don't see why Obama hurts this for you?

Do republicans seriously believe that the economy is the fault of Obama?!

Wow..., good night!

i blame it on the Baby Boomer Woodstock generation. though, maybe they just didn't teach Accounting back then.

but it's obama's fault that the price of tires and gasoline has gone up?

weird, i had no idea that setting the price of tires and gasoline was one of the presidential duties.

TIL the president sets the price of tires and gasoline!

your posts are a bunch of herpderp, KoH

Trife, I've never strictly blamed him personally, but his policies are restrictive to new drilling and exploration. However, just for comparisons sake...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQb_4hXLx2Q

You libs are so ignorant, anything good happens, "oh ya, that's Obama policy effect, yay for Obama!" Anything and everything bad, "oh, how is that Obama doing it?" Haha, you leftist always spin master it to make your guy look like a god, i just smacked you with my realistic today ffor real Obama policy afecting an entire industry and you blatantly defend the guy behindd it all....

Holy fluffing fluff! You people are either tarded or ignorant!

What policy change?
Please show the law, policy, or what you believe has raised your prices on stuff.

fuel prices are high because of the stock market. if oil could not be traded as a commodity you would see significantly lower prices.

Anon, not going to go into specifics too much, but a couple stick out...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/...one-xl-oil-pipeline-video

http://www.washingtontimes.com/...illing-projects/?page=all

Stopping new drilling and exploration(which will raise prices down the road too) are things he has done during his 4 years. Did it have a huge effect? The price of oil is probably more driven by futures than the current situation and his policies lower our output into the future, creating possible shortages as countries around the world use more oil.

I don't blame him only or anything, but as my previous link was about how he blamed Bush, should he get to escape blame now?

oh wow. that was a well thought out, factual, mature response to my questions. thanks!

Yes, yes, blame bush and spin, that's our strategy for the next 4 years.

Signed: The Left.