Election observers believe that Ohio is the state most likely to decide who becomes our next President. These interviews were conducted with Ohio voters at a recent Romney rally in Defiance, OH.

http://www.youtube.com/...ilepage&v=nY0M7IdNl7U



This is an incredible advert for the American people, lol.

Gary Johnson 2012 =]

Snoop Dogg 2012 =]

I still don't get why the Democrats aren't going out in full force with TV ads proving how Romney has changed his stance so many times. His entire campaign went out the window during the debate. He backpedaled everything he had said up to that point. Most Americans haven't figured that out yet. CALL HIM OUT ON IT

haha, This video makes Romney supports look stupid.

Wait...so Obama is a Muslim atheist who is letting Buddhists take our religious freedoms away?

The best part about this video is that it's taken at a Romney rally, meaning these are 'informed' people that care about their politics strongly enough to attend a rally... they're not just random people picked off the street. That said, it's not hard to find ignorant voters on either of the two major sides...

That is correct. The creators of the video have a very obvious agenda, and it would be just as easy to make a video that would paint Obama supporters in a similar light.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/...09/obamas-59-state-union/

Cause making a simple mistake is the same as spouting complete and utter lies? Yeah, ok..

Romney supporters aren't too bright, but the Obama supporters are the same way. Although Obama supporters are more willing to change their mind when confronted with the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skw-0jv9kts

Funny video showing how hard it is to tell apart Obama and Romney.

Not sure if you're talking about Romney or Obama...

Why? His R opponents said the same thing in the primary and it didn't stick. The reason is because the voting public doesn't see evolving stances on issues as a bad thing. Do you see tons of ads running that Obama was against gay marriage before he was for it? No, of course not because then your opponent can own both sides of it. Your ad would instead be to rural religious voters: Obama supports destroying the traditional family by promoting the homosexual agenda of gay marriage, gays in the military, etc. There are limited exceptions where the flops exceed the value of the actual issue.

The messages you see on tv have been through a barrage of message-testing survey instruments including polls, focus groups, and dynamic response surveys (ie, testing against your opponent's likely messages). The ads aren't dreamed up in a vacuum.

Now if you're going to argue both sides have over-extended the barrages well beyond saturation then I would tend to agree. Some of these buys have ridiculous GRP in DMAs that don't even cover more than half of the targeted area. The DC market is a good example. Expensive points (particularly for the key time slots) that will be shown in parts of WV, all of DC and significant portions of MD.

@ eric, exactly!

Helmet appears to be comparing a simple mistake Obama made to some completely ignorant and bigoted statements by Romney supporters. Just a stupid comment to make, honestly.

yeah, i don't know how you can compare a mistake about how many states obama said he visited to people in that video slating gay marriage aka equal/human rights.

also why are these idiots so scared of "socialism"? it's actually scary how fluffing stupid some of these people are. they don't even know what socialism or communism is.

They should have to pass a test before voting. I find it funny that they don't mind things like police/army/roads or whatever paid for by the State but you get healthcare even mentioned and they throw a fit

My dad calls Obama a socialist. I keep trying to convince him that Obama has been very friendly to big business and hasn't tried to socialize anything. Even his obamacare leaves the insurance companies privately owned.

Considering this is something you see from both sides (idiots). I think a test before voting might not really benefit Dems.

the older generation are still stuck in the cold war era.

You appear to be guessing as to what he meant since he only posted a link. Honestly I guessed he meant people say dumb fluff sometimes--even the POTUS.

http://www.ntrc.info/biden.html

speaking of dumb fluffs...

obamacare is crap.

Yes, clearly that was a comparison. haha I couldn't have summarized my post better. You took my long winded response and narrowed it down to exactly the point I was trying to make. Good job! You're brilliant!

Rockman, one could argue that what you just said is basically the definition of fascism. Not the always negative connotation the word has, but the actual definition of the form of government. Communism is the government taking the business from the businessman. Fascism is the government leaving the business in control of the businessman, but controlling how he runs it. Socialism is really both and neither at this point in time. Those forms of government hate each other, historically, yet one (communism) is trumpeted as a graduated form of socialism and the other (fascism) has had socialism in the name (nazi's).

I wonder how many people are voting for Romney on the sole fact that Obama isn't white.

Because when some Romneyites can't give a particular reason why they're voting for him, I pretty much pencil it in that they're racist.

How many people are voting Obama on the sole fact that Romney is a Mormon?

Video of supporters from Obama rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX-c07uefc

I'd vote for neither of the two.

You could say the exact same thing for blacks voting for Obama. One could interview hundreds of black people, pick out the idiots that can't come up with a single reason to vote for him and and make a similar video. It means nothing.

There is a plethora of idiots voting for both candidates.

what the fluff has obama done so far?

http://bitly.com/bvEVyU
or
http://www.whatthefluffhasobamadonesofar.com/

anybody who says people need to pass a test to vote, joking or not: gays need to pass a test to marry. the test is marrying somebody of a different sex. if you pass.. :P

trife: they'd only half hate him. most of us hate him for him being a muslim! :P

the funny thing is that some of these people are saying: "we are the laughing stock of the world we need mitt"

yeh, cos that's gonna make the rest of the world stop laughing :)

yea, but the rest of the world hasn't quite realized not to piss and fluff in the water they plan on drinking.

so, really, let them laugh.

And the situation that was there before it was worse. Perhaps if both sides had wanted it to be a success it would be better.

I think it would just be good to not have retards voting in general :P If you think Obama is hitler then you should not vote. If you think Romney will make the rich pay $0 in taxes then you shouldnt vote.

you heard it from locket first, seconded by me. obama hates the jews.

Yea, I have to agree with locket, it doesn't make sense to pay for roads/infrastructure but *not* for health.... I'd take health over roads actually; and the military.

We could do both by simply extending military health benefits to the public, and funding more military doctors & nurses....

both you and oats have really good points.

:)

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i can't tell if you're joking or just fluffing obnoxious.

that kkk... i mean mitt rally was 30ish min from me. i wont judge the video for a second until i see the other clips of people who actually know what theyre talkin about.

also a quick search netted these

this one was posted back in 08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

these are recent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpv0lPz-pd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skw-0jv9kts

should also add no i didnt watch the whole things. too much effort there :P

Fascism tends to also incorporate a strong sense of nationalism. I would not say that Obama has done that, although he has incorporated a lot of abuses of civil liberties in the name of the war on terror and war on drugs.

I call Obama a state capitalist, due to the influence of Murray Bookchin on my views. It is where the capitalists control the state and use the state as a weapon to protect their own interests. Small businesses cannot thrive in such a system, and can even be outlawed completely.

Question 7 in Maryland right now is an example of a state capitalist system. We currently have five casinos in Maryland, and that is all that is allowed by law. Question 7 would allow a sixth casino to open up, at an already determined location, and to be owned by an already determined group of capitalists. There are currently five casinos in Maryland, and it is completely illegal to start a business which competes with them. The market is completely closed. It is completely protected by the government. That is what state capitalism is. And that is what Republicans and Democrats embody.

I'm not sure if the strain of nationalism and the erosion of civil liberties by Obama and Romney has gotten to the point where we can call them fascists. But they are definitely very close.

That just sounds like capitalism to me

no actually it is worse now. I deal with it firsthand with my mother.

You live in MD, Rockman? Never knew that. My old stomping grounds.

Trife, if you vote for Obama then you clearly hate cats.

That video's been making the rounds.

Pollsters call a segment of the voting population low information voters. These are basically people who don't pay much attention and are easily swayed by emotion and ads.

This video goes a step further and shows lots of Romney voters are no information voters.

Rockman, here's where we differ on this. You call it state capitalism, while I say it isn't capitalism at all. Rather it is fascism, where the government controls business. Capitalism is where the government does not have the power to control business. So state capitalism, by the very definition of capitalism, cannot exist.

I wouldn't advocate calling either fascists, but I wouldn't call them very far off either.

There are stupid people everywhere. And honestly, a few of the poeple he talked to didn't even come off looking terrible.

"Fascism" as an ideology can't really be nailed down that neatly, but you're generally right about its economics. However, you have our situation reversed: in reality today, business controls the government. They donate to the candidates, they flood the airwaves, and they buy elections. Folks from Goldman Sachs get appointed throughout the government. Folks from Congressional offices go back to lobbying firms and use their connections to influence votes. You sometimes get people from industries literally writing the bills. So it's not your "fascism," and it's not "state capitalism" either by normal definitions, since that usually means state-owned industries participating in market economies. No, this is just capitalism, the natural state of capitalism in our type of "democracy."

I know Nate Silver has Romney's odds tommorrow low, but is 10 really "lots" of Romney voters?