Hey only 11 LaFfers have grabbed Hero! That's 11 out of 80 (13.75%).

Evo has 5 out of 34 (14.7%)!

Heh...it's crazy how this conversation resembles politics in the US :-).
Big guys...don't take from us, it's not fair!

Little guys, work harder and become a big guy!

Thought i'd share!

Haha, touche Xinhuan :P You're still the evil totalitarian dictatorship, and us the plucky rebels with hearts of gold!

Big guys are saying to go stay at the big guys house till the little guys have more experience and have grown in size so they can move out on their own. Big difference.

And Tella, I don't think anyone is saying Evo are monsters in this thread. Just trying to point out that it isn't only Laf hitting them and that Laf aren't monsters either in this case :P

Locket, you are a MONSTER!

You can flame me all you want but this time fazer has a valid point

"Hero" actually is a real alliance....small but real. I see no purple countries is this clan this reset.

"Hero" has actually at least three(3) countries that can retal anything Laf throws at them and actually can retal any attack from any country.

Laf is just having a hissy fit because they can't get over the idea that Hero is actually retalling their hits and they are coming out on the short end of it. So what is Laf's solution:...lets pick one country and landgrab it 13 times by 4 of our own countries in a 36 hr period and lets see Hero retal all of those.

I'm surprised that Hero countries haven't given up in discuss.

You've got a long road ahead of you fazer to build this alliance especially with Laf and for that matter EVO sabotaging your efforts.

keep up the fight :o)


Date & Time Type Attacker Defender Result
Oct 16/12 1:56:39 PM SS KayLee (#88) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 115 A (+20 A)
Oct 16/12 1:56:14 PM SS never met a nice evoer (#367) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 124 A (+33 A)
Oct 16/12 1:55:20 PM SS KayLee (#88) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 218 A (+54 A)
Oct 16/12 1:54:57 PM SS never met a nice evoer (#367) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 159 A (+62 A)
Oct 16/12 7:40:00 AM SS never met a nice evoer (#367) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 132 A (+48 A)
Oct 16/12 7:38:36 AM SS never met a nice evoer (#367) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 125 A (+75 A)
Oct 16/12 1:33:34 AM PS Defiant (#53) (HERO) Cosa Nostra (#547) (LaF) 663 A (+296 A)
Oct 16/12 12:58:26 AM SS KayLee (#88) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 88 A (+61 A)
Oct 15/12 1:34:02 PM SS Cosa Nostra (#547) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 65 A (+15 A)
Oct 15/12 1:33:59 PM SS Cosa Nostra (#547) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 103 A (+38 A)
Oct 15/12 1:33:56 PM SS Cosa Nostra (#547) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 101 A (+62 A)
Oct 15/12 12:14:36 AM SS eug gave it to mak gangnam style (#33) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 118 A (+27 A)
Oct 15/12 12:13:47 AM SS eug gave it to mak gangnam style (#33) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 122 A (+42 A)
Oct 15/12 12:10:25 AM SS eug gave it to mak gangnam style (#33) (LaF) Defiant (#53) (HERO) 174 A (+91 A)

You mean in disgust?

OTH Hero has countries which can not retal our top ones. They have countries which can retal the middle or hit all explores which is what is happening.

there is a lot of math going on in this thread . . .

everybody BUT fazer seems to be pretty good at it - I wonder if thats why he keeps getting all of his countries deleted?

Hey fazer, learn math = dont turn purple!

First lesson 1 = 1, 1 =/= 8

(there will be a test)

*puts sock in mouth*


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Also archaic

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LaF are having a hissy fit? I'm sure LaF didn't make this thread.

lol...

Hey Fazer thought you should see this:

Oct 16/12 4:56:57 PM SS On the road again (#507) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 196 A (+16 A)
Oct 16/12 4:56:42 PM SS On the road again (#507) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 344 A (+71 A)
Oct 16/12 3:46:27 PM PS slagpit tickles my undercarriage (#495) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 248 A (+0 A)
Oct 16/12 3:46:05 PM PS slagpit tickles my undercarriage (#495) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 333 A (+32 A)
Oct 16/12 3:45:17 PM SS slagpit tickles my undercarriage (#495) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 238 A (+58 A)
Oct 16/12 3:44:53 PM SS slagpit tickles my undercarriage (#495) (EVOvince) Kolob (#342) (HERO) 263 A (+92 A)
Oct 16/12 3:42:16 PM PS Kolob (#342) (HERO) Hey Sexy Ladies (#503) (LaF) Defence Held
Oct 16/12 3:41:39 PM PS Kolob (#342) (HERO) Hey Sexy Ladies (#503) (LaF) Defence Held
Oct 16/12 3:39:23 PM PS Kolob (#342) (HERO) SANDWICH ISLANDS (#664) (LaF) 266 A (+142 A)
Oct 16/12 3:39:05 PM PS Kolob (#342) (HERO) SANDWICH ISLANDS (#664) (LaF) 260 A (+180 A)
Oct 16/12 3:38:47 PM PS Kolob (#342) (HERO) SANDWICH ISLANDS (#664) (LaF) 277 A (+181 A)
Oct 16/12 3:37:29 PM SS Kolob (#342) (HERO) Oppan Hanlong Style (#180) (LaF) 432 A (+220 A)
Oct 16/12 3:35:46 PM SS Kolob (#342) (HERO) Oppan Hanlong Style (#180) (LaF) 562 A (+243 A)


You see HERO farmed LaF then Evo farmed you... You wan't to make LaF out to be a villain here but Evo is the one stealing from you and profiting from it. Thanks for giving Evo so much land and no credit for it.

regardless of how you try to spin the farming that 'its just part of the game so deal with it', the people playing these countries you have to remember are real people trying to 'enjoy' the game.

When you farm them, every day, you are robbing a real person of their enjoyment in this game. Why would you want to consistently do that?

I know that trying to get a human like response to the above question will follow in subsequent posts about ' join a larger alliance ' or , suck it up you whinging fluff. Or Having a hissy fit, but just maybe it is the very poison that drops players off this game like dead fly's.

Just remember its a real person behind those countries you farm the fluff out of. So i do hope at the expense of other players, you really do enjoy it.

fazer why do you think you should be treated the same as other alliances? you havent earned any respect to recieve such a treatement. joining a larger alliance and establishing a skill set is the proper thing to do.

there are 2 ways to survive in this server. play well or use politics. unfortunatley you lack both abilities. im not entirely convinced you found 7 real people to join you in a tag but if you cared about their "enjoyment" you would advise them to join an established tag and learn the game.

this right here, an established clan, is the down fall of the current state of EE. oh so lets beef up the already big allliances and not let any new ones form or even give them a fighting chance. lets just all join on big tag and call it day why we are at it.

there are plenty of small established alliances that could teach players the ropes, DK would be one of them. it doesnt have to be LaF or SoF. nobody is saying you shouldnt be able to start your own tag but dont expect everyone to go easy on you and give you a free pass because you dont know what youre doing.

who's to say in the eyes of the beholder that HERO isnt an established clan. I assume there is a clan website, has atleast 8 people. How come those ppl in that clan cant all be new together and try to learn together regardless of who is running it.

Only reason i felt the need to post on this thread was because im in a similar position, albeit not as severe and I am trying to avoid that all together.

@pain. Kill my country if it makes you feel better. If you cannot let go of the past just kill my country over and over and over again so that i NEVER enjoy this game ever again. Would that make you happy? Seriously.

" nobody is saying you shouldnt be able to start your own tag but dont expect everyone to go easy on you and give you a free pass because you dont know what youre doing. "

At this point pain most people who voice their opinion are saying that. You farm a tag so they cannot grow, you farm new players in the game every day, day in day out, that is exactly what you are saying.

Nothing positive can come from giving a large alliance more members. The core membership in this game resists change, ferociously. Change will change the game they are so tightly clinging onto.

I don't care if i am the only one saying this, but I know for a fact others feel the same way but just shut their mouths for fear of AT rejection. fluff that.

I've spent time and effort in this game, and if i continue to do so I'll call the poison out of this game, just like you have called my faults and i have rectified those... but some just cannot let go.

I refer to my previous post, the players you are farming are real people. By farming them every day you ARE saying exactly what you think you are not. Regardless of whether you admit it or not.

Frazer, your a Private in a game filled with Sergeant Majors. For the safety of you and your fellow clan members, I highly recommend you merge into an established clan. I'm sure after a few resets you will gain the members and experience to run a successful clan.

Frazer, the only way u can survive this server is to pact out if possible and if not retal every hit as good as you can. But when you start farming, abing, and doing stuff to innocent people yourself you only put a target on your back. And at the end of the day you're defenseless being so down in numbers.

You need to play a better political game to pull this off. And even then an 8 man tag is going to be a difficult feat to pull off successfully.

Is it impossible? No, but it's very difficult. Why do you think Rage merged into MD?

You have been given advice dude. Stop complaining about something that will absolutely not change. If Laf or Sof had a ton of crappy countries then people would still hit them a lot because they couldn't retal. You don't even have numbers to back you up. Learn to play countries in another alliance and learn politics(Sov has a thread about that) and stop whining.

It's odd, when I was really into this game I led a small alliance back when 1a had 10-15k countries. Back then I hated the big boys because they farmed us with impunity as well. Weird to be one of the bad guys now.

But, nowadays you have even more trouble. The game is much smaller, the average player is way better, and politics has much less margin for error.

In my opinion starting an alliance now from scratch is somewhere between ridiculous and impossible. So difficult that it isn't even worth trying.

It's also not like building yourselves up in another alliance is unheard of. I guarantee you that I would rather have been a founding member of SoF - who started their first set with a list of NAPs and 55 or so members. Then say, a founding member of Hero.

fazer, its not easy to make an alliance from scratch, but if hero does end up becoming a successful alliance with solid members, then consider this the initiation process.

if u can hit an alliance that will most likely not retel cuz they are weak, why on earth will u hit an alliance that will most likely retel and u might end up losing mroe land than u grabbed? wheres the math in that..

this server is "alliance" if u dont have a solid alliance, join tournament. u wont get farmed there.

just suicide on them and be done with it. =D

We have a resource on these forums for leaders to refer to in regards to developing their tag:-

http://forums.earthempires.com/...amp;z=leadership-resource

I think there is information there that can be found useful to assist HERO in becoming an established tag.

Sov you can help by replying to my pm. :P

Edited: I was incorrect

Which one is that? :P

LOL

this.

Sorry I was mistaken, that was even longer ago. He messaged me since from his main account but I did reply to that too.

sooo.. you tell them to go to an "established clan" but yet your farming an established clan?

define established for me... if you can that is

Why do we go through this every set for the last year? Same type of thread....

1) Been around for more than a set with an actual FR team.
2) Some level of tag protection
3) More than 5 members unless those 5 are very good players who can retal anyone no matter if the hits fly in..

I'm sure I could think of more but yah... that is the start of what an established alliance is to me.

Just merge with DK.

there is no point fazer going to a older established alliance, he tried that once and was given a few chances to clean up his image but he decided to continue to break the game rules and then run away when questioned about it.

already tried