Yesterday, a couple hours before the Express reset ended, I was able to make several landgrabs on a country that never attacked me or spied on me. Some people seem to think it was due to me not being in GDI, and the other guy being in GDI. I believe this should not be possible.

That is indeed the cause. In a previous set someone oldman never hit lemmed him down from 30m with two hits in the last couple hours. It was brought up then but it didn't change.

Being in GDI only prevents you from attacking (someone that hasn't attacked you) in the final 6 hours.

It doesn't prevent you from being attacked.

Yes, this is in GDI's description.

It's odd though, because other GDI protections are mutual - you can't AB someone unless they hit you twice, they can't AB you unless you hit them twice, whether they're in GDI or not.

Well...looks like I have my plans for next set then ;)

Still a bug in Express.

is this a bug? I'm not sure I'm following....? if you weren't in gdi (is that possible?) shouldn't you be able to attack regardless?

qz,

Let country A be in GDI.
Let country B be out of GDI.
A and B have not exchanged hits ever.

In the final 6 hours of the Express reset:
1) A cannot attack B.
2) B can attack A. (Which would then allow A to attack B back.)

(1) is clearly stated in the GDI rules, (2) isn't stated at all, so whether (2) is a bug or not is an admin judgement.

right; i dunno, we never really said that one way or another; i think it's working as slagpit intended tbh; whether or not that's good i guess is open for discussion heh

It's not good. The reason for the new-style GDI was to prevent random suiciding, right? This defeats the purpose.

Corrected it for Xinhuan.

Blow up banks/steal cash are attacks, crest. :P

not really

join GDI

Even if you join GDI random guys can suicide on you in the last 6 hours is crest's point.

You missed the bus my friend.

If I remember correctly, the problem with expanding that type of GDI protection is that a country in GDI could run the last 500 or so turns of the set with no defense and no one would be able to grab it.

Except people they'd hit, but yeah. Makes some sense.

LOL, that's Dave all right :p

I would like to see proof of a country that was able to run the last 500 turns with no defense. They would already have been farmed to oblivion.

And regardless, DR can protect them even if they did, right?

I believe you misunderstood. It was a theoretical concern about what could happen if the GDI "no attacks in the final six hours rule" was expanded further.

I still don't think it is practical. And I'm pretty sure this bug will be in Primary as well where a non GDI country can suicide any GDI country in the final hours.

But maybe I misunderstand.

/open arms

So,....it's a bug then?, or by design as an open loop hole for non GDI to have have as tool?

If it lasts 6 hours on Express, it should last longer on Primary, like a day.

Before it lasts anytime anywhere it should 1st be fixed. As I understand it, that rule was implemented to prevent suiciders from doing a last minute run on a netter/country. If that is indeed the case, giving non-GDI countries the power to suicide on a GDI country in the final hrs is retarded.

Most people that play outside of GDI these days do that either for the specific reason of suiciding or because they forget to join. Though some deliberately do it because they are retarded, lol.

Unless there's another reason it was put in place that I'm not aware of. The only thing saving a lot of countries now is that many suiciders don't yet know that they can attack a GDI country even in the final hrs.

And yet another reason why the game should be based on turns and not time. 6 hrs in Express is a very long time, in Primary,......

The rule was implemented to prevent countries that enjoyed GDI protection all set from suiciding on top players.

Translation: non GDI can rape you in final 6hrs of the set...

/facepalm