Mehul Factor - Earth Empires Forum

BobbyATA

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Aug 14th 2012, 0:42:12

not really teh appropriate forum, but what is the range of the Mehul factor. I can't seem to find this anywhere. I oversent by 8% today and bounced so I'm bitter heh:P

Chewi

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Aug 14th 2012, 0:45:50

10% for best results.

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Aug 14th 2012, 0:57:05

What ^ said, I'm too bz to run all the #s cuz I'm on the road most of the week, last set I did 25k acres worth of grabbn and did ok with the 10%, I impressed myself :p

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:07:40

10% gets you 99% effective or something. When I bounce I always wonder if it was that magic 1% that still fails, or if there was something weird like my readiness wasn't 100% or some other weird thing

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

crest23

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:24:08

It's actually 99.7% with a 10% oversend. I only bounce when I forget to check if the person is a dictator, has defensive bonus, or I cannot spy the person or one of their DAs and blind send. I fail almost every time doing this.

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blid

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:28:44

Yeah, the defensive bonus is tricky. One time I bounced because a guy had all tanks and I assumed they were turrets.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:30:54

*waves@crest* sup brother!!!

crest23

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:32:25

KoH, my man! How's it going?

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BobbyATA

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:33:32

ya I don't want to say too much b/c eveyrone knows my country and hence who I bounced on, but it was ez enough to calc exact break. Anyways, I guess I'll start being sure to send 10% thanks. ( For some reason I thought it was 5% where you were basically guaranteed to go thru. )

blid

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Aug 14th 2012, 1:35:12

Mehul factor basically is a 10% def bonus.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2012, 2:33:18

Originally posted by crest23:

KoH, my man! How's it going?

Just another day in paradise, brother!, I don't see you much on the boards these days, been bz with family?

crest23

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Aug 14th 2012, 2:57:14

You could say that ;-) Vacations, family, work, play, and getting a PMP certification. I like to stay busy I guess :-)

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KoHeartsGPA

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Aug 14th 2012, 8:00:15

Good for you, brother! keep up the good work!

Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2012, 16:02:55

I calculated one country def*2(Max allies)*tech*bonus*gvt%*1.1(mehul) and then added another 600k just to make sure and it still bounced. I pretty much got mehuled at 25% or something stupid. Explain!!! Is allies bonus points included?

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blid

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Aug 14th 2012, 16:06:40

Wrong order - do the government and tech bonuses first and THEN double for def allies! The ally tech and bonus don't factor in, but those things are applied to the defender before the def allies are called in.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan

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Aug 14th 2012, 16:59:00

Blid, Serp's wrong ordering is irrelevant in this case, he multiplied by 2 assuming allies would double, so his formula is correct.

You probably punched in a wrong number Serp, or misread tanks as turrets.

(I have a 99.35% Attack success rate on Primary, just below Rob's 99.57%.)

AzNiZe

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Aug 14th 2012, 17:01:01

yup all the bonus first then x 2

Xinhuan

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Aug 14th 2012, 17:04:25

He wrote:

def*2*tech*bonus*gvt%*1.1

They are all multiplied, so it doesn't matter the order of multiplication, he already assumed allies will double.

BobbyATA

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Aug 14th 2012, 18:56:07

lol I bounced again today I'm up to 4 for the set...how freaking sloppy can I get. Today was just missing the guy had troops lol

blid

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Aug 14th 2012, 18:59:26

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Blid, Serp's wrong ordering is irrelevant in this case, he multiplied by 2 assuming allies would double, so his formula is correct.

Hah! You are right of course. Funny I just assumed that was it. He must have made some other mistake though. Random factor can't go to 25%.

Edited By: blid on Aug 14th 2012, 19:01:37
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Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

qwertyh

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Aug 14th 2012, 20:51:48

Err..who are you again Bobby? I really have no idea who you guys are in game.

BobbyATA

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Aug 14th 2012, 21:26:11

click on my game profile...compare to countries this set...profit!

qwertyh

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Aug 14th 2012, 21:34:37

Ah..I just learned a new trick of stalking people : D

Serpentor

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Aug 14th 2012, 22:25:51

Yeah, it was very weird because I way way way oversent. And despite how the order was written here the calc was right because it was x2, not the adding of turrets. Lol anyways I swear it was correctly entered too. Only thing I could think was he logged in and played while I was calculating. It's possible to happen once in a while I guess.

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afaik

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Aug 15th 2012, 8:16:35

or good return from market serp - i usually spy again if i bounce to try and figure it, and that's frequently the cause (i.e. no nw or landgain but increase mil)

metygl

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Aug 15th 2012, 17:35:23

Happens to me in express frequently. As afaik mentioned, it's almost for certain (if calculated correctly - e.g. o-allies etc.) because of the defender or his allies boosting defense prior to your hit.

A time-consuming solution to partially reduce these occurrences is to search using in-game search (since eestats takes some time to refresh) to check if the countries networth or allies networth changed before and after your spy-op to grab calculation.

Cerberus

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Sep 18th 2012, 16:33:24

You cannot predict the Mehul Factor, it is not a constant.

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Xinhuan

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Sep 19th 2012, 0:37:33

Cerberus, it doesn't go above 10%, so there is no need to predict it.

In fact, if you have tutorials/tips on (in the options, default is on), when you click enough times on the WAR ROOM page, one of the possible tips (just below your status bar containing your turn count/food/cash/etc) says:

Account for random chance!
All attacks have some element of chance. Our generals calculate that if we send more than 110% of the defender's power our attacks will be successful more than 99% of the time.

OneMansArmy

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Sep 19th 2012, 0:40:14

Anyone know if the luck bonus affects this percentage?

Also, I usually use the in game search to make sure their net didn't change from the spy-op just before sending each attack.

Edited By: OneMansArmy on Sep 19th 2012, 0:42:24
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