Since God supposedly created everything that exists in the first 6 days of existance, why would he create such bad things like cancer, diseases, gnats and mosquitos?

A common answer I've found to this question is because of Sin. 'He made it as punishment for Sin, namely Adam and Eve's original sin!'

So running with that.. lemme get this straight.. A guy who supposedly cares about you and wants you to do well created things that would plague humanity for 'atleast the last 6000 years'? What about all the kids who were born with birth defects? Shirley they couldn't have sinned while they were in the womb? What about all the good people who've lived honest lives - like Nuns? I'm pretty sure that a few nuns have died from diseases and cancer...

What exactly was he thinking? He created an imperfect people and then screwed them and their descendants over with bad things for because they were imperfect? Sounds like a pretty douchebag move to me.

Just looking for answers that make sense! HELP ME SEE THE LIGHT!

Why would he allow child molesters to rape and murder children?

My friend I've been asking those questions for years.

Those would all be good questions if you believe in god. Just sayn'

I came to 1 conclution, life = hell, that is all :p

Didn't God create free will? Free Will can answer every questionin thus here thread.

Read a bible.

The answers to these questions, from the Christian perspective, aren't exactly subtle if you give any thought to what you're reading. They pretty much slap you in the face.

Until you've taken the time to do that, why're you trying to stir up fluff here? This is a forum for a game... go bait people on a forum meant for religious discussion.

-Fooglmog
Guy with no clue.

The answer is....


because you touch yourself at night.

I'm interested in learning more about a religion? It's a serious question - why would an all powerful god inflict harm on his followers? It doesn't make sense to my small and feeble mind.

If you'd provide me with the not exactly subtle answers you've got, I'd love to know. Apparently you think my understanding of Christianity is incorrect, can you please tell me why?

Your answer is similar to me asking why water evaporates and then someone telling me 'Duh, read a science book. Until you read the whole science book you won't know what it means!'

Thank you sir!

No. I'm only willing to wade ankle deep into this particular pond of bullfluff.

If you were interested in learning about religion, you'd ask these questions in a place likely to have people interested in having this discussion -- not a forum for a game completely unrelated to the questions you pose.

Just as I would not go to a girl-scout bake sale in order to ask someone about evaporation. (insert priest joke here)

-Fooglmog
Guy with no clue.

/facepalm

*grabs the popcorn*

this life is an ephemeral insignificant existence compared to the glory that is god and the eternal life of the hereafter. the suffering imposed by cancer and other bad things will be meaningless and forgotten in the sublimity of the next world.

priests don't eat brownies

Foog how is this forum totally unrelated.

In this game we have many "Gods gift to women"
Multiple Mr./Mrs. Perfects.

And me, The son of God, Jesus Herbert Christ

i don't know what this means but lol at that signature

maybe God isn't all powerul,

Maybe God isn't all knowing,

Maybe God isn't a big white guy in the sky with a Penus...


The above (Omni-God stuff) are all assumptions:) That not all people who follow the teachings of Jesus accept omni God as the truth

Maybe God made a bet to Satan that if Satan gives plagues to humans, they still would pray for God.

Here's a question I want answered... Are we the only form of life in the entire universe? Science tells us that is very very unlikely from a probability perspective but religion tells us otherwise...

Also is it possible to be a scientific minded person and still be religious?

is earth the only place that holds life? probably not. but to state that "religion tells us otherwise" is incredibly untrue, you're treating all religion like some monolithic entity with a single stance which obviously isn't the case.

oh, and of course it's possible to be scientific minded + religious.

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."

- Albert Einstein (who was also a socialist, btw)

That's true I have no idea what is out there in the world of religion, I only have my experiences. I should re-phrased that I guess but you get my point.

[quote poster=blid; 19520; 361018]
"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."

- Albert Einstein (who was also a socialist, btw) [/quote]

I've read that :) Einstein is the man.

brownie is the step before girl scout. they do however play with cubs

Let's correct this... Catholic priests.

Wow, that's a rather impressive pouty little girl impression you've also weaved in with the head in sand manuever. I've been in LCN for years and seen some pretty good Pouty Ostriches in my time, but your display put them all to shame.

Good show!

/eats more popcorn


*puts new bag in microwave*

/drinks beer

Whose to say god created it? He created humans and we have done alot of stuff to destroy ourselves aswell as the planet he designed for us. People smoke cigs wonder why they get lung cancer or ppl that live next to nuclear plant wonder why they got brain cancer. God gave people free will and thats the root of most evil in the world

It's called population control my friends, unfortunately we breed like rabbits, and one planet can only support so many humans :/ That being said, it's a pretty horrible way to control the population..

Trife: Since you bring up the 6 days mythology, I presume you want a christian to answer this? In case you want a more general version, I'll give you my non-christian answer as well.

As a believing agnostic I this is my version. God didn't create everything in 6 days. The universe is like a big wild garden that God has seeded with the possibility for growth. Since the garden is wild, more or less anything can grow here. This also means that while the whole is beautiful, patches of it will still be weeds and decomposition.

We can try to make our part of the garden more perfect, or we can fluff all over it. Personally I think we should try to improve it, but I respect that God has given us the choice...

Nice answer

Imagine this life as a semi-permanent WoW server (lol). When your account expires (you die), you move on to a server for winners or losers. Everything you did ingame, is then tallied up to determine which fluffing server you end up in permanently. If you were more of a douchebag than a saint then you get thrown into the Hell Server. Otherwise you end up with 72 virgins forever (hell yeah!)

You have to remember to that most of the horrible things being done to humans, is done by other humans themselves. Why are you blaming "God" when you should be looking at humanity as the cause of most of the world's problems? Some people believe that "God" gave humanity free will and will judge them after they die for what they did with their free will in this life.

Likewise if someone fails or succeeds in life you don't go around blaming "God" for his failure or success. You most likely attribute it to his hard work, perserverance and sheer grit, or lack of them. Everyone does this. Every. Single. Time.

Why is that you only need a convenient scrapegoat for the failings of humanity?

I'll say that good things must always be counter-balanced with bad things. If bad things didn't exist, how would good things be good, since you can't compare good things against the bad?

Heaven - Hell
Light - Dark
Good - Evil
etc.

And even if there weren't "bad things", only good ones, then there is still different levels of goodness, and the worst of the goodness would still be seen as bad.

Yes, for an answer we're operating the assumption that God is God and the bible is chock full of truthiness.

It's odd because normally folks are trying to drive their beliefs down your throats, but now that I'm trying to get qualification things get quiet and they bury their heads in the sand.

What's the justification in god creating something that only brings sadness and death to his followers?

Where the hell is Flanders when you need him

Penus?

You see, the religious people -- most of them -- really think this planet is an experiment. That's what their beliefs come down to. Some god or other is always fixing and poking, messing around with tradesmen's wives, giving tablets on mountains, commanding you to mutilate your children, telling people what words they can say and what words they can't say, making people feel guilty about enjoying themselves, and like that. Why can't the gods leave well enough alone? All this intervention speaks of incompetence. If God didn't want Lot's wife to look back, why didn't he make her obedient, so she'd do what her husband told her? Or if he hadn't made Lot such a fluffhead, maybe she would've listened to him more. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why didn't he start the universe out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why's he constantly repairing and complaining? No, there's one thing the Bible makes clear: The biblical God is a sloppy manufacturer. He's not good at design, he's not good at execution. He'd be out of business if there was any competition. [Sol Hadden in Carl Sagan's Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985), p. 285.]

Fun read:
http://atheistcamel.blogspot.de/...ase-creations-act-of.html

Personally I wouldn't waste much time wondering why god created disease or let it happen or whatever. Much easier to simply come to terms with the fact that god doesnt exist and is just a fantasy figure same as Batman or the Easter Bunny.

Then I would welcome you to the club of rational thinking humans. :-)

If religion makes society a better place than whether it is true or not doesn't really matter. Most of the teachings I've ever saw are to make people/ society a better place and in that regard whether or not you believe is irrelevant.

And Trife to answer most of your questions people may just use one word: Faith.

imagine if your points considered the Devil as the source of all evil.

or man itself.

Erian-

Have you read any Process thought....also known as Whitehedian thought?

On the seventh day, he created lemonheads.

There, I solved all your questions.

Servant: No, do you have any good links to read about it? I googled it some, but I didn't find any great reads.

Death is a part of life so disease must be a part of good health. Bacteria is thought to have helped to create life everything is balanced the way it should be. I believe that life on earth was a miraculous occurence everything is made up of energy including ourselves and even when we die our energy doesnt. So dont worry because even if disease kills you it is not the end your energy lives on. So fluff Cancer cause you cant kill my soul only my body...

Trife <3

meh.... if you want answers that pertain to god and or any other religion... goto their forums, this is a game forum ment for game related activities.. stop Trolling and get back to killing.. and or netting.

We are made of energy? Here I thought we were biological machines that consume energy.

How can you possibly ask for "answers that make sense" when talking about religion? None of it makes any sense.

what makes you think death and suffering is a bad thing? why do good things happen to bad people? what makes them bad? good/bad whats the dif and who said so?
He made it as punishment for Sin? maybe its what comes from our wont to sin. If you can find Adam and Eve's starting state and there state after there will had been carried out, you will find what you are asking for.

sorry for the poor form and spelling.

SO VILSE, IF SOMEONE CAN BELIEVE IN A HIGHER POWER.. IF SOMEONE REALIZES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, AND BELIEVES THAT GOD IS A POSSIBILTIY.. IF SOMEONE LOOKS AT THE BIG BANG THEORY AND THINKS "HEY WAIT A MINUTE, WHERE'D THE STUFF THAT EXPLODED COME FROM", THEN THEY'RE NOT A RATIONAL THINKING HUMAN?

GOD JUST TOLD ME TO ADD YOU TO THE LIST OF THOSE WHO ARE TO BE EXPLODED.

HA!

SAM

besides clearly stated can you have good without bad, for that point.

Who decided any of what you claim as bad is bad. what is the Good way to die, there are probably many opinions as to how one would prefer to die, or should we have that choice ourselves, and if so at what age should we get to choose.

Is there no value in the mosquito or is it we just haven't found its "good" use yet. I'm sure the mosquito thinks it has value.

@ H4xOr WaNgEr "We are made of energy? Here I thought we were biological machines that consume energy."
I guess it all depends on what you believe in either of us could be right and either us could be wrong but. I would think our body is a vessel that needs a different source of energy to live in this state like food and water. But yes we are living in a biological machine.