The error in your logic, Helmet, is to think that the other leaders in LaF were completely ignorant of the cheating going on. It will never be proven but to think that they weren't cognizant, at some level, of it is not logical.
If I played in an alliance and always had this great intel and such provided by another leader I would at some point begin to question the source. And the only next logical step would be to, at least consider, it to be ill gotten.
You can stand by whoever you want, you choose LaF, that is fine. But don't act like you're some great guy who doesn't support cheating. Because in all likelihood you are supporting cheating. LaF and RD have long histories of such acts. It is not wise to assume any different now.
To think that the other LaF heads didn't know is like saying the secret service had no idea Bill was getting BJ's from Monica in the oval.
Either they knew or they were so stupid they deserve to be fired.
The error in your logic, Helmet, is to think that the other leaders in LaF were completely ignorant of the cheating going on. It will never be proven but to think that they weren't cognizant, at some level, of it is not logical.
If I played in an alliance and always had this great intel and such provided by another leader I would at some point begin to question the source. And the only next logical step would be to, at least consider, it to be ill gotten.
You can stand by whoever you want, you choose LaF, that is fine. But don't act like you're some great guy who doesn't support cheating. Because in all likelihood you are supporting cheating. LaF and RD have long histories of such acts. It is not wise to assume any different now.
Let me get this straight. The error in my "logic" is that you "assume" others knew.
Also, you're a hypocrite. Look at your own allies.
The error in your logic, Helmet, is to think that the other leaders in LaF were completely ignorant of the cheating going on. It will never be proven but to think that they weren't cognizant, at some level, of it is not logical.
If I played in an alliance and always had this great intel and such provided by another leader I would at some point begin to question the source. And the only next logical step would be to, at least consider, it to be ill gotten.
You can stand by whoever you want, you choose LaF, that is fine. But don't act like you're some great guy who doesn't support cheating. Because in all likelihood you are supporting cheating. LaF and RD have long histories of such acts. It is not wise to assume any different now.
To think that the other LaF heads didn't know is like saying the secret service had no idea Bill was getting BJ's from Monica in the oval.
Either they knew or they were so stupid they deserve to be fired.
The fact that so many cheaters, RD for example, got away with cheating and being in leadership for so many years in Earth 2025 makes you incompetent too. Or are you going to claim that MD had no cheaters in it? I would be surprised if none of the leaders in Sol were around when Angy was playing as Stewie back then. Not sure who knew about that or who didn't but are Sol members who did not know incompetent because they were fooled? Why wasn't every single RD player found out and all of their aliases revealed if the rest of the community isn't incompetent too by your standards.
Your accusations are retarded and you obviously did not know how Hanlong operated. None of my conversations with him would have ever implied he had some sort of access like he did. Get over yourself. You are not some amazing sleuth and you are not an angel. Stop talking crap about people when you in all likelihood have played beside cheaters and not known it in the past too.
What does one have to do to get booted from SoF? Even Hanlong and TC would be safe there!
What does one have to do to get booted from Evo? You running untagged and suiciding on pacted allies not enough? Not to mention all the other things you have done.
What does one have to do to get booted from SoF? Even Hanlong and TC would be safe there!
What does one have to do to get booted from Evo? You running untagged and suiciding on pacted allies not enough? Not to mention all the other things you have done.
Hey KJ im sure martian can confirm that chaz isnt in SOF anymore since martian has full site access and im sure you wont trust what we say anyway and your source sucks lol
when one of the Melbourne Rugby League teams was caught out cheating over the salary cap, they had the championship from the previous year stripped, and all points from the current season AND the following season taken off them. They were allowed to play, but they weren't able to compete for the championship. Even if the team playing against them lost, they would be awarded the points as for a win. And that was because of just a few upper leavel club managers breaking the rules, not the general player base. 3 seasons counted for nothing.
Drow you are totally wrong there. Melbourne Storm were not penalized in the following season. The following season was last year and they were in the finals
Thus refer back to the analogy and this set is the same ;)
I thought they were..
After researching: The Storm were stripped of 2 premierships, 3 minor premierships AND their points for the season.
From theaustralian.com:
"The NRL stripped Melbourne of its premierships (2007, 2009), minor premierships (2006,2007,2008), ordered it repay $1.1 million in prizemoney, fined it $500,000, stripped it of its 2010 competition points and announced it would earn no more points for the rest of the 2010 season."
In comparison, LaF had 2 players' finishes removed, and caught a beating that set. Compared to a sporting team, they got off damned light.
The prize money that the Storm were ordered to repay was evenly distributed between the other NRL clubs.
ALso: Chaz - you say that RD hit ONLY MD, not the other alliances. Whilst this is true, this affects ALL other alliances involved. a) 25% of our countries got put out of direct contention as a result, and b) it increases the load and damage on the remaining countries of our alliance. It also indirectly affected RD's own pacted ally.
@ dagga: you sure know what you are saying? lol. i'm not really into you coz i've seen how many times you've been smacked down by SoF with your statement. but i understand your hatred to SoF though. you should learn to forgive.
@ drow: that i don't know. but hey, would SoL hit RD if they FA LaF/SoF like what they did to rival last set? i hope not. i don't even think that FAing another alliance, at war, is a big NO NO. unless we make it official in the server.
Originally posted by cypress:
no reason to start slacking just because they are getting FA
fluff them....we'll steamroll them even with the FA they are getting
I thought they were..
After researching: The Storm were stripped of 2 premierships, 3 minor premierships AND their points for the season.
From theaustralian.com:
"The NRL stripped Melbourne of its premierships (2007, 2009), minor premierships (2006,2007,2008), ordered it repay $1.1 million in prizemoney, fined it $500,000, stripped it of its 2010 competition points and announced it would earn no more points for the rest of the 2010 season."
In comparison, LaF had 2 players' finishes removed, and caught a beating that set. Compared to a sporting team, they got off damned light.
The prize money that the Storm were ordered to repay was evenly distributed between the other NRL clubs.
ALso: Chaz - you say that RD hit ONLY MD, not the other alliances. Whilst this is true, this affects ALL other alliances involved. a) 25% of our countries got put out of direct contention as a result, and b) it increases the load and damage on the remaining countries of our alliance. It also indirectly affected RD's own pacted ally.
Laf has had allies enter into the other side of the war too. There is nothing new in this war other than PDM being in it :P
Otbol: I believe virtually every pact in the game has a clause specifically about not FA'ing people that the person pacted is at war with.
locket: pretty sure that everyone on this side of the fence in the war is hitting LaF... Not sure how you could say you have allies on our side, unless you encourage your allies to hit you...
Otbol: I believe virtually every pact in the game has a clause specifically about not FA'ing people that the person pacted is at war with.
locket: pretty sure that everyone on this side of the fence in the war is hitting LaF... Not sure how you could say you have allies on our side, unless you encourage your allies to hit you...
then I would hope that they also had the decency NOT to FA countries that were hitting LaF.
Jus sayin'
Don't remember the specifics, but if you look at any war recently, everyone has gotten some outside FA so it's kind of a pointless argument anymore sadly. I disagree with it but that doesn't matter in the big picture :P
