PM me. I'm tired of this I PS you, you PS me crap that gets fluffty countries into the top 10. Only way they can do well is to take advantage of ghost acres.

If you're a leader in a tag that's willing to make a stand against this fluff, PM me. Otherwise I'll be a lone suicider.

http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/16
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/125
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/507
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/582
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/194
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/118
http://www.eestats.com/alliance/country/398

NA's oil buyouts and FA chains were more legit than this crap.

Thomas


Come join Evolution
You still have an account.

Its the logical option, you don't even need to fill in an app and I don't need to accept you, think how easy it will be?

Buyouts which hurt the finish of the countries doing the buying of overpriced goods are more legit? Awesome.

The point of any competition is to finish the season #1 and to have played within the rules. In what way has Tits not met that description? Don't like the fact that ghost cares and land trading can be exploited? Get enough people to get the mods to change the rules of the game and disallow it. Until then, those countries you listed played within the rules of the game and achieved the goal of the game - highest NW. Nothing else should matter.

Pretty sure Evo isn't going to be taking that stance KJ considering you guys have done some light trading yourselves :P I think Imag may be anti land trading?

But he has an account on the Evo site already, so its super easy!

Panther returns!!

sol.ghqnet.com !

Within the rules? Yes. But it's a bunch of fluff and you know it. To have to grab within your tag, or grab the same guys back and forth throughout the set in order to take advantage of ghost acres is fluffing lame.

SOL, Evo... I don't care where. As long as a war is made over this fluff, I'm game.

You skipped one of them...

thomas.. sof

Thomas, PM me. We can coordinate suicides :)

Given the jockeying for position that goes on politically in the game right now, I basically see two ways for this to end:
#1) iMag repeatedly FSes RD over it or
#2) LaF and Evo start landtrading and landtrading gets modded down

Yes and the countries putting Titanium into DR in Express might not have been his, but the fact is that the best netters on the server still play by a different set of rules for the good of the game.

edit: to continue the express allegory, the best netters on the server also stared quitting in large numbers when the DR abusing became rampant. now Evo and LaF have been warring for a while but it will be interesting to see how long top netters stay interested when the competition has a 40k free acre advantage each set.

No one takes a FAed or bought out finish seriously or respects it, why should they respect landtraders? All it does is screw over people with actual netting talent.

Just wait till those anti-land trading pacts stop attacking each other. LOL

wow thomas all that time off and you come back whining like a little girl. i expected more lol.

You really don't know Thomas well, do you?

Clans look at you and hope the best for you, they want you to be something special- like a top ten farmer or casher. Truth is if you end up playing around here you're more likely to be grinding untags for land and driving countries too small to defend themselves out of this game! Or you could be just like me...... a landtrading hobo with a shotgun.

I've played the last 2 resets. But thanks for your concern, fluff head.

They see em tradin
They hatin
Trolling tryin to catch em playin dirty

Thomas why don't you just quit. All you do is whine anyway.

The best players don't leave a game when it changes... they adapt.

Why would I do that? Don't want someone to take a stand against the cheap way you and your "former" cheaters in RD play?

Eat fluff.

nah, the dr abusing was serious BS. That's country coordination in a single server, which is against the rules but difficult to track apparently.

Thomas did you suicide us recently in those 2 sets? we had a suicider similar to how you play. they basically failed to do any real damage and then gave up. similar to your crusade in team server.

I hate it when the game changes and people try to play differently than everyone else has in the past. Hasn't everyone realized by now that this game is meant to be stagnant and boring?

Considering I don't even know what tag you're in, no. Funny you always seem to be on the unethical side of the spectrum. You must be one of those people who is a doucher in RL and tough guy on EE.

Well... I guess technically I've been in RD for a few hours. But I've spent 12 years in Omega. A couple as Head. My opinions have nothing to do with RDs policies. They just happen to align with them.

I don't care if somebody takes a stand against it. In fact, I encourage you to take a stand against it. My point is that this has been happening for quite some time. If it were really a problem, someone would've taken a stand against it already. RD has what... 30-35 members? Alliances could have easily farmed them (us?) to the ground set after set after set until they agreed to stop land trading. The fact that nobody did is evidence that despite what you might think, the server as a whole is either indifferent or not opposed to the land trading. More evidence to that point is the fact that this thread has been viewed 253 times and you only have 1 reply which supports your effort.

You don't like land trading. Fine. You're trying to do something about it. I commend that. Fact remains - you're nobody. People with a lot more influence and a lot more countries under their control have had the opportunity to do what you're trying to do, and nobody has. All you can do is suicide on RD every set. Good luck. I'm sure you'll get tired of it before they do. Maybe it'll give me an opportunity to bust out Deity's missile boat strat. Chems chems chems baby!

how am i on the unethical side? whats unethical about people trading hits to gain land?

how am i a tough guy? have i threatened to beat you up? funny youd call me a douche yet clearly you are a douche yourself. just look at this thread for example.

I was actually responding to Gainsboro, but sure thing pal.

I almost forgot I was a nobody.

Well if you were a somebody you wouldn't need to come to AT trying to form a posse to bring down RD.

Was I trying to form one? No. I'm looking for an alliance that shares the same mindset. K bye

Surprising that a "somebody" wouldn't be able to contact alliance leaders privately. Hell, even I can do that.

I was a VP in Sanct for nearly 2 years. I have since deleted my Windows Live Messenger and IRC off this computer once I stepped down and took a few sets off. Anything else?

Let me enlighten everyone about Thomas' reason for hating RD. (its not the landtrading, thats just his excuse)

Back about a year or so ago, Thomas joined RD team server, under the guise that he was trying to help relations between sanct/RD in 1a (truth is we were the biggest and offered him the best protection). so Thomas goes about his business farming untags/spam tags and because those people could not retal him they would suicide another RD tagged country (typical of noob/bad players). now this is to be expected and isnt an issue until he refuses to help do kill runs on the suiciders he created. so he is eventually booted from RD and his country killed after the second or 3rd time.

then for 2 or 3 sets he poorly suicided RD's tags with people like PP and others.

No. I'm just trying to see how far you're willing to go on this tangent.

Pain -- you honestly think I cared enough about that fluff to want to go after RD now? Over a year later? When I was a VP & HoW and could have declared on your tag whenever I wanted?

Now all of a sudden I'm determined to get revenge?

Haha

Thomas, this is a game this involves consistent change. The reason that ghost acres exist is because the game got to the point in which everyone was allied to everyone and no one was able to get land anymore when 1000 countries were bottom feeding the same 50 untags.

Now, as always, success is largely due to ones ability to gain land. Land trading is not easy, its not cheap, and its just as strategic if not more strategic than bottom feeding.

The majority of major alliances land trade. Whether it is a random land grab or an agreed upon hit, the sole purpose is to gain ghost acres since every hit is going to be retaliated regardless. Using that logic, here is a list of alliances that land trade.

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/...round=15&ranktype=tnw

Call it what you want to call it, but everyone who is not all explore or purely bottom feeding is doing it. That involves people in every major alliance, EVO, SOL, MD, SoF etc. Finding an alliance that is anti-land trading but makes daily landgrabs which they know will be retaliated is no different. All that means is their adoption process is slower.

I understand you are probably upset that you can't compete with countries that land trade, but I also think you posting on AT about how you don't like it isn't going to get an alliance to try to take down RD or anyone else doing it.

So to sum it up, what I am trying to say is really similar to some others before me. Quit whining.

no not all the sudden, its pent up angst. just admit it.

if you need someone to talk to or a shoulder, im in IRC all the time, friend.

Any true anti American League Baseball Designated Hitter hating patriots?

PM me. I'm tired of this that teams pitcher doesn't take at bats, the other teams pitcher doesn't take at bats crap that gets fluffty teams into the Pennant Race. Only way they can do well is to take advantage of superior hitters off the bench

If you're a big guy, preferably named Guido or Nunzio with a tire iron that's willing to make a stand against this fluff, PM me. Otherwise I'll be Nancy Kerriganing these bastards alone

The 1919 White Soxs were more legit than this crap.

Anti-Designated Hitter....... fluff off

haha, nice brink

Sad that I sang those 3 lines to Ridin' Dirty

funny i just posted that on bch site

Imaginary Numbers does not support land trading. Our members voted on it, and they voted not to accept it, and if need be to go to war over it.

Join now.

http://www.letskillstuff.org

My country was killed for 1 tf against RD a long time ago. GL lol.

Is bottomfeeding more challenging and more legit than grabbing other alliances?

It's hard to say. Bottomfeeding has become significantly more difficult as a result of fewer players going untagged or being a part of smaller alliances unable to defend themselves. I think bottomfeeding is legit but the downside is it discourages people from playing when they're getting hit 10-20 times per day. This is a highly strategic strategy that involves a large commitment and is time sensitive.

Grabbing other alliances / trading generates more land than bottom feeding and is also a lot more expensive as losses are significantly higher and there is rebuilding involved. In the eyes of many both hitting other alliances and agreed upon land trading are less legit because the sole purpose is to generate ghost acres. However, hitting random countries that are going to retal takes no strategy whatsoever and is not time sensitive or a large time commitment. Landtrading also isn't very time sensitive but is completely strategic and involves a large time commitment to be done correctly.

Since bottom feeding isn't really an option for more countries to participate in, the only other alternative is to go all explore. Since this game is about generating land and there is an attack function it is completely ridiculous in my eyes that people are against other means of generating land.

But not everyone is competitive, there's a lot of politics involved on this server, and some people just like to cry and whine when they see people doing things they don't understand or know how to do themselves.

Meh bonus

me too

Yes Titanium, landtrading is so difficult and risky, doesn't give any advantage whatsoever.

In other news, RD players who 5 sets ago struggled to break top 100 now dominate the top 10. You guys must have one hell of a training program, none of this could be due to the 30/40k free acres each one of those countries gets per reset.