Seriously, well done. The idea was always a solid one but I think it was martian that came up with the forumla - I reckon its spot on. The tedium of building CS and getting your country to a point where it can help out again has been circumvented.

Much appreciated.

The only other thing that might improve it would be to retain a small percentage of tech - reward those players who have spent cash or turns on proper tech levels. Maybe 10% of previous tech amounts?

If they feel it needs a buff that would be the first place I'd go to but maybe they think it's already strong enough. I suppose we shall wait and see what/if they say

it's good for wars this early, but the later you get it ends up being too many CS and not enough cash

yeah the CS/cash thing is a little off, because you EITHER rebuild your land or get military. I'd rather have a casual 25 bpt on a restart, and spend the money to be able to have say 50k troops jets and turrets at least when coming back OOP.

You wouldn't be giving credit if you knew it was my idea. ;)

A good idea deserves credit no matter whos idea is.

Yar.

I agree. a good idea is a good idea, I just suspect it might be a few too many cs.

I wish there was a measure of randomness involved in the restart country.

As it is, with proper calculations, you can easily determine which country restarted with what new country number.

Of course you did Helmet.

http://forums.earthempires.com/Forum.php?threadid=11882

PS. Helmet also invented the wheel and modern telecommunications.

A good idea deserves credit no matter whos idea is.

Helmet is a copycat :P

Confirmed. Also, the internet...

Wow, that's cool, way to go Helmut!

I think the spam attack button killed the fun for all the stonewallers and should be removed.

As an earthempires player, you work 2 weeks -> 1 and a half months in order to see your work destroyed in 35-60 seconds. 7-8 years ago 4 minutes kills were good, now a good kill is 30-40 seconds ... wtf? If i would have been a n00b starting this game tommorow - and i`ll see my work destoyed in 30 seconds after 1 month of learning i`ll quit instantly.

Spam attack button killed logic too.
I remember that i was the fastest at the math class because i was moding warchats in earth2025. You had to do some fast thinking in those days in order to give nice accurate breaks to your mates during a war-chat.

During last set ( Sol Ws LCN + Imag ) i saw terrible fast kills, including someone dieing in 37 seconds. The over-sendings were terrible. All the sides involved in a random war do not use brains anymore. They just set up the target to 1/3 of their military, wait and spam no matter the looses/logic.

Giving the perfect scenario i admit that i can`t turn on my lap, connect to internet and log in into earth in less than 1 minute ( if i am on WC 1 minute should be added, and if i am into a love session 10-15 more minutes should be added). This game destroy work WAY to fast.

Another fact that was brought into my attention is that the spam attacks make earth freez/lag. That`s not cool either.

Admins and Developers should do something about it.

It is very good and very well balanced, other than the cash is too low at higher turn counts.

This is the best change in Earth in a looong time! Great idea.

Dags, I like your tech idea as well.

praise from dagga... what is this world coming too lol..
The idea was actually a compilation of various peoples suggestions slightly reworked, including posts from Helmet and Dagga :P

It's very useful to those who lack the ability to run a good restart under the old rules. It makes warring easier for those who lack warring ability, which apparently includes dagga.

So you are saying that Helmet and Dagga worked closely together in a collaborative effort, constructively building to a consensus for the greater good of all the players of EE they hold so dear?

I didn't believe this Mayan crap about the world ending in 2012, but maybe they were on to something...

Spam attack makes wars unbalanced, eliminating countries in seconds that took weeks to craft.

Also, the coding for mobile devices eliminates the ability of mobile devices to either participate in the spam attacking or stonewall the spam attacking.

Not sure yet what I think about 1800A fully built and teched-out restarts at turn 100.

I just want to make sure props are given to the right peson: Llaar had this idea a long, long time ago. Martin may have done the formula or something but lets make sure to give Llaar some props for the idea.

http://forums.earthempires.com/...p;p=1289024553&page=1

I and a few others have long suggested allowing restarts to have 10% of everything their dead country did. What Martian did was just pick and choose the best ideas out of all the similar ideas.

helmet and dagga together will make good offspring

Poor dagga. Worlds biggest hater

Unsym: I am not so sure about that. I've walled from the mobile page on multiple occasions quite successfully (well apart from the time my battery went flat mid wall :P)

That was uncalled for. Anything that increases restarting is good for the game. EE should not be the sole property of the rarified aire, newscamping, giant-excel-spreadsheet-building wonks like rockman. People who get laid should be able to play too (which still rules out dagga, sadly)

Alin I can send up to 9 attacks per second if I'm on my game with my mouse clicking, but I've never had the game freeze. Are you sure the matter isn't on your PC's end?

To anybody complaining about the resend attack button...

Do you really think it is any faster than the old days of pressing "Backspace - Spacebar" over and over?

I've played this game for a long long long time now, and I don't notice any difference.

I always liked clicking and having the result in a new tab

tabbed browsers have changed hitting way more than the resend button. I remember plenty of 30-40 second kills in the old days during FS

I frequently use 6+ tabs when Im hitting now, I can burn 120 turns in a matter of seconds if I'm not breaking

Don't complain about too many CS. That's crazy talk.

not true. there is such a thing as too high a BPT, especially with bugger all cash.

I think CSes are over powered late set. Restarts getting 400CS at the end is crazy. I'd suggest the cap at 100 or something, while money and such is increased later on.

So you can't build to your bpt in one turn, how is that a bad thing? It's a hell of a lot better than having 10bpt. :P If it's such a problem for you then drop them.

agree, they have almost no cost and they were the single biggest holdback to getting a restart back in the game by the old rules

more CS >>>>> less CS

having the bpt boast on restarts is a great thing

I've personally stonewalled
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And cm rush.

Get this.... From my phone.

You guys complaining, suck less?

You mean I can look forward to restarting 5 times now? AWESOME!!!

Also, this, just as any new feature to the game will require modifications before a happy medium is reached. So, everything you mention will of course be heard by someone hopefully and slight changes will occur each set.

archaic: disagree. I never had a prob with getting to around 25 bpt or so, leaving it there, go farmer and either catch FA or anklebite ;)

helmet: what point having the built up land if you have no military because you can't buy it?
need the built land to maintain the mil, but need the mil to hit.

This would also serve to identify the players restart (based on the dead countries tech levels). To a point, it would revome anonimity from restarting.

There isn't any anonymity in restarting now to begin with. If I killed your country, I will probably have your /turnsplayed from the op and can calculate your restart's initial land size and NW.