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nimrodix Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:18:58

ok so some kid stole my laptop and my xbox.
he has been logging on to my xbox gamertag and playing.
i called xbox support and asked if they could give me the ip addy and they really can't help me, but said the cops should be able to find it easy. apparently the cops in my small town are too stupid to figure out how to do it.
so anyone know how i can tell them how to do it or be able to do it myself when they are loged on.
seeing someone play my stolen games on my stolen xbox is driving me crazy lol

locket Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:22:31

Add him from someone elses xbox and get to know him. Offer to sell him something and do a meetup :P

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:29:33

1.pose as a 12 year old boy
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Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:30:12

he's using your Window's Live ID to play. change the password before he does.
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Trife Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:31:57

im a brainiac

as for your problems, what sort of payment do you offer me for my easy solutions?

as a brainiac i'd be silly to give away great ideas for free

Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:35:26

then buy a new console and transfer the licenses to it.
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Theseus Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:40:08

First you need to get the IP of the person using your gamertag. From a technical standpoint I have no idea if there is a simple way to do it. It can be had from Microsoft, but would likely require a subpoena obtained by the police. The second step would be to link the IP address of the person to an individual/house/location, and that would be done through the ISP of the bad guy, but that also would require a subpoena. I'm not a legal expert, but at an old job working for an ISP I seen a few similar situations.

The police don't have any magic tools but they have the ability to get access to information that Microsoft and the ISP won't give to you. It's going to be a matter of whether they will (or can?) pursue the matter.

Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:40:47

Originally posted by Trife:
im a brainiac

as for your problems, what sort of payment do you offer me for my easy solutions?

as a brainiac i'd be silly to give away great ideas for free

as a brainiac you'd already be independently wealthy and would be bored out of your mind waiting for petty little problems that you could solve.
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nimrodix Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 1:46:14

ic looks like my best chance is to keep bugging the cops about it.
thanx

Chaoswind Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 2:20:43

Tell them your user is downloading child porn.

That should get them rolling



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Pain Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 2:56:01

nimmy if the local PD are tards, the state police should have the resources to help you. whether or not they choose to add you to thier agenda is another issue.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 3:06:53

I doubt staties would take on a local jurisdiction case.

Nimmy - your best bet is to run a traceroute on his IP address to identify his ISP, then pass that information on to the local authorities and ask them to obtain a warrant for information release (although some will do it willingly) and contact the ISP for ownership records. It's not surefire, as some IPs are not static, but it's probably the best you've got without doing something questionable legally.

You can do so here: http://network-tools.com/

Also, although it was a joke, something in the vein of what Chaoswind mentioned isn't necessarily a bad idea. Don't go so far as lying, but feel free to mention that you've seen several questionable interactions online to them.


Edited By: NOW3P on Sep 28th 2011, 4:20:56
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mrford Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 3:09:21

did someone say child porn?
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sigma Game profile

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Sep 28th 2011, 4:51:54

I haven't done this, but if I were to go about trying to figure this out his IP would be to join a game with him in it. Run a sniffer program to obtain the people's ip addresses that you are playing with.

Theseus Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 3:18:09

Most IP's are not static NOW3P but that doesn't really make a difference. ISP's keep logs of who their dymanic IP addresses were assigned to and when, otherwise any online criminal could just run with a dynamic IP address and make sure to dump it after doing whatever illegal act to get away with it.

He can't run a traceroute on his IP address because he doesn't have it. If he did he would want to do a lookup, not a traceroute. Doing so wouldn't likely serve much purpose other than knowing personally what ISP they have though. Telling the police "this IP from this ISP stole my X-Box" isn't likely to work.

NOW3P Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 6:48:01

funny - I ran a traceroute on my own IP and came up with the service provider, local hub, and address of the domain controller. And yes, the same can be obtained through a DNS lookup.

Theseus Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 14:24:08

It's not funny, and it's also not important, but a traceroute does not include the information he needs by default. If the ISP has its name in the domains (ie. comcast.net for Comcast) you could potentially see that, sure, but they don't always. For example I live in an area serviced by "Armstrong Cable" but a traceroute on my IP would show it leads to "zoominternet.net", and if you go off looking for a company named "Zoom Internet" you aren't going to find one. It would not take a great deal of effort to find who that domain belongs to, but why put yourself in a situation to potentially need extra steps. You would need to do a lookup to obtain contact information anyway. The traceroute on network-tools.com does happen to include those pieces of information so you aren't wrong about him being able to get what he needs by following your directions, but those are not standard inclusions or the designed purpose of a traceroute.

snawdog Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 14:48:37

The police are chasing bank robbers and eating Krispy Kremes,they will not drop either to worry about your laptop and xbox..Sad but true.
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Klown Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 16:02:01

If you meet up with him I'd ask questions before you pummel him, he could have bought it from the guy that stole it and done nothing wrong.

sigma Game profile

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Oct 1st 2011, 21:19:25

Buying stolen goods is a crime, fyi.

spoodini Game profile

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Oct 2nd 2011, 2:16:23

Same thing happened to a friend of mine. I gave him the information to give to the police on how to find it, but he didn't care and just took it as a loss.

Generally, video game systems work the same way when connecting to the internet. Here's the information I gave to my friend for his PS3.

http://community.us.playstation.com/message/410234

Cross research how to do it for an xbox, should be easy to find. Hand it to the police so they know how to handle it. This new technology stuff, especially if you live in a cow town, isn't exactly what they are trained to find. But someone will hopefully follow through for you. Just keep on calling about it and if they don't follow through, they will eventually get sick of you asking them and they'll do it. Especially if they are having a slow week.

It's easy to do for them. They have the resources just don't know how to use them sometimes.
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