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Sep 14th 2011, 17:35:37

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Sep 14th 2011, 18:43:26

censorship? what's that?
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Sep 14th 2011, 19:00:26

Its sold here in The US... Its on Amazon.

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Sep 14th 2011, 19:05:45

sure we all have our own beliefs about how life began and god, but it is hard - the bible and science just don't =
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Sep 14th 2011, 19:07:39

i know this is about censorship not religion - but it pertains to what the book is about.
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Sep 14th 2011, 19:18:57

there must be more to it that they arent stating. its not like there arent a thousand books that make religion look stupid. and even more written about evolution.
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Sep 14th 2011, 20:54:07

this isn't really a case of censorship.

The guy isn't being told that he isn't allowed to publish the book, he is being told by the publishers that they aren't interested in publishing it.

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Sep 14th 2011, 22:12:00

so, they are supporting him in throwing a tantrum because nobody wants to lose money publishing his works? wish i could throw a million dollar tantrum and get paid to just shut the heck up.
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Sep 14th 2011, 22:18:07

Science and religion dont have to not equate. i believe in god and science and evolution. i beleieve that god creating man and woman out of him is far less impressive than him sitting back and having/letting it happen how it will.
argue the logical fallacy if you like but i think this is an equal compramise for me beleiving in god and having an opposible (spelling is fluff on my phone) thumb and a coccyx.
i was not able to follow the link my phone is fluff so sorry if this hs nothing to do with anything at all, I am more responding to zips comment.. i realize there will be again faults in logic, but im happy with the two of them existing happily

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Sep 14th 2011, 22:32:06

i believe in both too
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Sep 14th 2011, 22:46:46

I know people, who are otherwise reasonable and intelligent, that would say believing in both is wrong and you're going to hell
That kind of thing puts me off religion completely...
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Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Sep 14th 2011, 23:31:46

belief is an emotion that may have little to do with reality. does kinda feel good to think you're on the side that will be saved from hell and damnation, or so i've heard.
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Sep 15th 2011, 1:19:56

My fiance is a scientist at UWA, and a devout Christian. She feels evolution and religion are not mutually incompatible.

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Sep 15th 2011, 1:26:00

dibs, for a lot of people in this world, their reality has little to do with "reality". many would argue this applies to you :P

dustfp: i would say those people are presuming to know what god wants, and are sinning far, far greater than i am. they should learn the whole judgment aspect of this whole thing, and then open their mouths :(

do you attend church, drow, and will you when you get married assuming she'll still attend? (this has nothing to do with anything but personal interest)

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Sep 15th 2011, 1:59:04

mythology and science are not compatible - pretending that they are is just a cute way of lying to yourself. The earth is either a 4.6 billion year old ball of rock populated by a bunch of water filled bags of carbon or we are all just a claymation fantasy of an invisible man in the sky. Pretty tough to reconcile those two sides.
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Sep 15th 2011, 2:16:19

hmmm archaic you are a genious...from now on i shall refer to religon as mythology, thats the only way it makes sense to me

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Sep 15th 2011, 2:17:24

I forget what movie it was, but it had a great quote regarding religion and science...

"Religion and science are telling the same story, just in different languages"

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Sep 15th 2011, 2:24:47

I refuse

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Someone not publishing a book is now censorship. The next crazy train leaves tomorrow...TOOT TOOT!

Oceana Game profile

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Sep 15th 2011, 8:14:33

Is this about censorship, because someone dont want to publesh a book I'm sure that happens thousands of times a day.

Or to argue about two different Theories, if that the case Religion probably wins out for consistancy, the Evolutionist have re-written their book so many times in the past 10 years never mind my life time. and they just greatly changed it again about 2 weeks ago.

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Sep 15th 2011, 8:16:58

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braden Game profile

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Sep 15th 2011, 12:37:47

with all of the failed science over the years, I might be lying to myself but at least i'm not lying to everybody else.

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Sep 17th 2011, 15:22:46

Heh, I had bought three of his books before I even saw this thread.

This isn't censorship. This is about decisions by several major publishers that the risk of lost sales across their entire portfolio due to a religiously motivated backlash against them as a publisher > the profit opportunity from this one book. Its a basic business decision.

The guy is free to publish his works with any other publisher who sees that equation differently, or to self-publish. Nothing is stopping US libraries or schools (AFAIK) from carrying the book published by a Canadian publisher in our local libraries. Nothing is preventing it from being sold.

He's just using the refusal by some publishers to publish his book to stir up attention and drive sales. In my case, it worked. Without the controversy (which I really ignore) I wouldn't have even been aware there were books published for a young audience on scientific inquiry and skepticism. (this book is about evolution, but his others are more generally about skepticism).

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Sep 17th 2011, 16:47:52

Xena killed the Greek Gods for the One God because he wasn't getting enough tribute!
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Sep 17th 2011, 17:47:03

In other news, how's that supposedly great health care system up there?

http://www.medpagetoday.com/...uteCoronarySyndrome/18279

The premier of Newfoundland "aka HEAD of Govermnment" comes to the US to have heart surgery

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Sep 17th 2011, 18:05:35

dang, what's he like a billionaire? didn't know that Canadiens could afford to pay for our wealthcare...
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braden Game profile

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Sep 17th 2011, 19:13:25

yep, a person from a piss poor island went to america for heart surgery, SCRAP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING OBAMACARE?!

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Sep 17th 2011, 21:09:59

if he's from a piss poor island, how's he going to pay for it? our doctors expect payment for services rendered.
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Sep 18th 2011, 5:14:33

as long as its not scientology type book.. I have no problems with it :-P
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