Verified:

Gogy Game profile

Member
291

Sep 10th 2011, 10:57:59

When they are not able to retal untagged country because that untagged country is stronger then them they kill that untagged country!! lol... so low and miserly...

dustfp Game profile

Member
710

Sep 10th 2011, 11:29:39

a clan is free to do what it wants, it's up to someone else to stop them
as an untagged, unless you have a large number of friends, you have no real power to protect yourself
that said, it's certainly not something sanct would do :p
-fudgepuppy
SancTuarY President
icq: 123820211
msn:
aim: fudgepuppy6988
http://collab.boxcarhosting.com

Dickie Game profile

Member
79

Sep 10th 2011, 13:07:49

Gogy come join LCN. http://lcn.gamerstown.com !

We can surely give you some protection and alot of laughs!

//fluffie

ponderer Game profile

Member
678

Sep 10th 2011, 15:50:10

I think any of their 7 top 100 countries could've retal'd you. They just made the value decision that you were less of a risk dead.
m0m0rific

Marco Game profile

Member
1259

Sep 10th 2011, 16:00:20

*edited*

I didn't realize who this was.

Edited By: Marco on Sep 10th 2011, 22:11:12
See Original Post

Prac Game profile

Member
128

Sep 10th 2011, 16:01:53

bonus

Mapleson Game profile

Member
298

Sep 10th 2011, 16:09:28

Seems like you are complaining because they had too much ability to retaliate against your topfeed.

While your are whinging about clans being cowards for killing untagged countries, you left off the following: SoF, Evolution, Omega, TIE, LCN, Monsters, SOL, PDM, and 2025.

Edited By: Mapleson on Sep 10th 2011, 17:00:08. Reason: Added PDM
See Original Post

ponderer Game profile

Member
678

Sep 10th 2011, 16:30:09

Mapleson: you forgot PDM and iMag
m0m0rific

Mapleson Game profile

Member
298

Sep 10th 2011, 16:59:52

iMag's kill was a MDer that detagged before death, but they killed a handful of their own tag. I did miss PDM though.

anoniem Game profile

Member
2881

Sep 10th 2011, 17:10:11

lol @ fluffie
re(ally)tired

sigma Game profile

Member
406

Sep 10th 2011, 18:13:32

I believe TIE has killed two untags, and they were for retalling in a manner that is not acceptable. Furthermore, TIE did not hit Gogy's country once; and I don't believe he is whining about killing untagged countries. I believe he is whining about them killing his country for making one landgrab on them.

With that said, it is an Alliance server, and I'm surprised Gogy wasn't killed sooner by someone else.

Bater Game profile

Member
81

Sep 10th 2011, 18:44:24

Dear Gogy,

Please take this kill as our response to your previous message in game. "KSF kill me what a joke as you guys are a joke."

I guess we're both jokes now.

Love,
Bater
UKNKSF

Leonidas KSF Game profile

Member
100

Sep 10th 2011, 18:54:40

cofirmed, we are both jokes now

archaic Game profile

Member
7012

Sep 10th 2011, 18:55:16

quite sure PDM has not killed anyone this set, and did not kill any untagged last set

thanks for failing though.

Gogy, PM me - I have a proposition for you
Cheating Mod Hall of Shame: Dark Morbid, Turtle Crawler, Sov

Boltar Game profile

Member
4056

Sep 10th 2011, 18:58:48

also a untagged knows what he or she is doing especially when they are allied to established alliances

NOW3P Game profile

Member
6503

Sep 10th 2011, 19:02:01

pozdrav Gogy! :-)

Raf Game profile

Member
191

Sep 10th 2011, 22:57:17

Next time retal your actual attacker not topfeed a random country in the tag. If you had retaled one of the countries that hit you and not sent your stupid messages you would be alive.






+RAF

lenshark Game profile

Member
177

Sep 10th 2011, 23:02:41

noice land!

anoniem Game profile

Member
2881

Sep 10th 2011, 23:40:25

if gogy joins PDM, which is probably the only alliance that would have him (see archaic's post), then they should expect him to cause PLENTY of problems.
re(ally)tired

Rockman Game profile

Member
3388

Sep 10th 2011, 23:52:04

Gogy - were you foolish enough to message them that your hit on #316 was a retal? If so, then you tried to enforce a retal policy that KSF did not accept, and its no surprise that you got killed. Or if you sent them threatening messages ingame, its also no surprise that you got killed.

But if you did not claim to be retalling by hitting someone who hadn't attacked you, and you sent them no threatening messages, then they were wrong in killing you.

Which is the case?

spawn Game profile

Member
1707

Sep 11th 2011, 0:20:40

share tag protection, share responsibility

seems fair to me :)
/slap iZarcon

All your deleted countries are belong to me!

NOW3P Game profile

Member
6503

Sep 11th 2011, 1:49:40

I would take Gogy in a second if I were running a clan.

galleri Game profile

Game Moderator
Primary, Express, Tourney, & FFA
14,055

Sep 11th 2011, 1:55:52

Originally posted by ponderer:
Mapleson: you forgot PDM and iMag


excuse me?


https://gyazo.com/...b3bb28dddf908cdbcfd162513

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

ponderer Game profile

Member
678

Sep 11th 2011, 2:07:37

Sep 07/11 2:50:20 AM BR Master of death (#1134) (iMagNum) strippergavemetheclapm0m0 (#728) () 10 C/4 B
Aug 04/11 5:18:53 PM BR Crystal Meth Polar Bear II (#1483) (iMagNum) BUTTfluffED (#1311) () 1 C/2 B
Aug 03/11 10:53:59 AM GS Number30 (#1478) (iMagNum) Rosewood (#1567) () 5 C/1 F
m0m0rific

Drow Game profile

Member
1704

Sep 11th 2011, 3:44:24

Archaic: we killed the guy who hit me 11x and another pdmer at least 6 or 7x unprovoked. Laf and evo had already farmed him into the ground and monsters had started killing him, we finished the job.

Paradigm President of failed speeling

Schilling Game profile

Member
455

Sep 11th 2011, 4:38:10

Originally posted by Drow:
Archaic: we killed the guy who hit me 11x and another pdmer at least 6 or 7x unprovoked. Laf and evo had already farmed him into the ground and monsters had started killing him, we finished the job.


Correct on all counts. He hit one of our guys 11 times. That will get you on the kill list with any alliance.

As far as the other untagged we killed this set, he hit someone 7 times, unprovoked. Again, that will get you on a kill list, tagged or not. I'm still trying to figure out how defending ourselves puts us into the cowards category. Perhaps Mapleson can enlighten us further?

Cheers.

galleri Game profile

Game Moderator
Primary, Express, Tourney, & FFA
14,055

Sep 11th 2011, 5:09:23

Originally posted by ponderer:
Sep 07/11 2:50:20 AM BR Master of death (#1134) (iMagNum) strippergavemetheclapm0m0 (#728) () 10 C/4 B
Aug 04/11 5:18:53 PM BR Crystal Meth Polar Bear II (#1483) (iMagNum) BUTTfluffED (#1311) () 1 C/2 B
Aug 03/11 10:53:59 AM GS Number30 (#1478) (iMagNum) Rosewood (#1567) () 5 C/1 F


first one: strippergavemetheclapm0m0 (#728).....MD detagged during our KR, as a joke...apologies were made by them later.

second one: BUTTfluffED (#1311) typo into our warbot....opps

third one: can't remember
honestly we are imag...we normally don't have to justify our kills...but most of the time we don't kill untagged w/o a reason. But try to not loop us into that group please.


https://gyazo.com/...b3bb28dddf908cdbcfd162513

Kahuna: Ya you just wrote the fkn equation, not helping me at all. Lol n I hated algebra.

Drow Game profile

Member
1704

Sep 11th 2011, 7:53:23

Schilling: if I had hit him first, esp if I had farmed him, then 11 hits on me would be fine

Paradigm President of failed speeling

Gogy Game profile

Member
291

Sep 11th 2011, 8:21:46

ROCKMAN i didn't send them any msg and my attack on them was single land grab...they were farming me and i attacked them once so they were apsolutly wrong on killing me!!

NOW3P pozdrav! ;)

ANONIEM-sorry wich archaic's post?

BATER and RAF about which msg are you talking about? i didn't send any msg...

Rednose Game profile

Member
145

Sep 11th 2011, 8:22:33

Originally posted by Drow:
Schilling: if I had hit him first, esp if I had farmed him, then 11 hits on me would be fine

well, no Monster did that. Just unprovoked hits.

Rockman Game profile

Member
3388

Sep 11th 2011, 10:06:24

Gogy - then their killing of you was indeed wrong. Given your skill, it would be interesting to see what type of retaliation against them you choose, if you choose that course.

iTarl Game profile

Member
879

Sep 11th 2011, 11:27:22

.

anoniem Game profile

Member
2881

Sep 11th 2011, 11:50:03

Originally posted by archaic:

Gogy, PM me - I have a proposition for you


It seemed like archaic was trying to recruit you lol!

And it seems Rockman is insinuating that you suicide, which is lamer than his usual maths posts.
re(ally)tired

Rockman Game profile

Member
3388

Sep 11th 2011, 12:17:13

Anoniem - how is that lame? If someone kills you for a single grab, are you not justified to suicide on them in retaliation?

anoniem Game profile

Member
2881

Sep 11th 2011, 12:28:48

Your post is a hypocrisy in itself. Though, I won't point out why on here, it's a riddle for you.
re(ally)tired

Bater Game profile

Member
81

Sep 11th 2011, 13:52:37

I already posted one of the messages you sent. There's really no reason to post more. You know what you sent, as do we. You may have Rockman confused as to the facts, but he appears to have the reading comprehension skills of a 5 year old with down syndrome, so I wouldn't take too much comfort in that.

Rekuyu947

Member
89

Sep 11th 2011, 17:16:33

Given the fact that he whines like a wanka! i would assume he is trying to hide the fact of the message he sent to the clan which we put the time and the date along with the message up for.

So nice try bub but you cant lie your way out of this one. As for Rockman its not a matter of that.

He did a topfeed instead of initially retalling the hit against him. I even offered him a deal in response to his topfeed to join us.

He replied with a scornful remark and hence such i decided he needed to go.

I ran a KR on him friday at 5:23 pm and killed him in about 3 minutes.

Situation handled.

diez Game profile

Member
1340

Sep 11th 2011, 17:46:18

<sarcasm>AB retalling a country isn't as bad as killing a country</sarcasm>

Rockman Game profile

Member
3388

Sep 11th 2011, 17:57:03

How am I the one with bad reading comprehension skills? I said it would be interesting to see what type of retaliation he chooses IF HE CHOOSES THAT COURSE. I think that shows that Anoniem misread my post, not that I have bad reading comprehension skills.

From the text of the message you claim he sent you, it appears that you threatened to kill him before he sent any threatening messages to you. If you threaten to kill him, and he calls you guys a joke for that threat, thats not justification to kill him. Additionally, there's nothing threatening in his message, and unless HE was the one who brought up the idea that you might kill his country, then he was responding to an unwarranted threat.

I would not be surprised if KSF sent him a message threatening to kill him over a single grab. The deal Rekuyu is talking about, was it phrased in a manner similar to "join or die"?

Leonidas KSF Game profile

Member
100

Sep 11th 2011, 18:03:29

we always give kill targets that choice, you should know that better then anyone Rockman

anoniem Game profile

Member
2881

Sep 11th 2011, 18:59:46

Originally posted by diez:
<sarcasm>AB retalling a country isn't as bad as killing a country</sarcasm>



lulululululul
re(ally)tired

Mapleson Game profile

Member
298

Sep 11th 2011, 19:16:35

Originally posted by archaic:
quite sure PDM has not killed anyone this set, and did not kill any untagged last set

thanks for failing though.

Gogy, PM me - I have a proposition for you
Thanks for checking the news, archaic.
Sep 09/11 12:01:56 AM BR 001101100011011000110110 (#153) (Paradigm) The Potato King (#832) () 9 C/1 B


Originally posted by Schilling:
I'm still trying to figure out how defending ourselves puts us into the cowards category. Perhaps Mapleson can enlighten us further?

Cheers.
I was suggesting that all of those clans were acting to protect themselves. Back in the day HAN had a retal policy of 1:KILL, but no one ever called them cowards for it. If you hit an alliance and do not have protection beyond yourself, they are within their right to retaliate as they see fit.

You cannot win alliance server as an unaided, untagged country, so playing as an untagged country you must have a different goal. As that goal is in direct conflict with the alliance you chose to attack, killing you off is the smartest thing to do rather then let you keep doing it. Maybe the reaction was a lot for 1 hit, but it's up to individual alliances to draw their own lines of acceptable conduct.

Rekuyu947

Member
89

Sep 11th 2011, 19:29:07

The thing you keep missing Rockman is the fact he did show aggression.

He was hit by a member and instead of retalling that member he made a topfeed which is punished by death auto on an untag.

I gave him a chance that was join or die he chose death so i gave it to him.

I do not give untags special treatment, if they want terms they can tag up and then we can talk about a pact. Till then he can piss of and whine all he wants.

Seren Game profile

Member
73

Sep 11th 2011, 19:43:44

yumad?

Pain Game profile

Member
4849

Sep 11th 2011, 20:14:39

Originally posted by Mapleson:
Originally posted by archaic:
quite sure PDM has not killed anyone this set, and did not kill any untagged last set

thanks for failing though.

Gogy, PM me - I have a proposition for you
Thanks for checking the news, archaic.
Sep 09/11 12:01:56 AM BR 001101100011011000110110 (#153) (Paradigm) The Potato King (#832) () 9 C/1 B


Originally posted by Schilling:
I'm still trying to figure out how defending ourselves puts us into the cowards category. Perhaps Mapleson can enlighten us further?

Cheers.
I was suggesting that all of those clans were acting to protect themselves. Back in the day HAN had a retal policy of 1:KILL, but no one ever called them cowards for it. If you hit an alliance and do not have protection beyond yourself, they are within their right to retaliate as they see fit.

You cannot win alliance server as an unaided, untagged country, so playing as an untagged country you must have a different goal. As that goal is in direct conflict with the alliance you chose to attack, killing you off is the smartest thing to do rather then let you keep doing it. Maybe the reaction was a lot for 1 hit, but it's up to individual alliances to draw their own lines of acceptable conduct.


#832 was a suicider. he missiled the top RD country and as very close allies PDM must have seen this and killed him to defend RD. PDM are very noble.
Your mother is a nice woman

Gogy Game profile

Member
291

Sep 12th 2011, 1:41:54

You forgot to say i was FARMED by a member of KSF...then i did 1 attack on your tag and you killed me because you know you will not be able to get back all land in retals...

i repeat i didn't send them any msg...there is no need for romance and lyes!

NOW3P Game profile

Member
6503

Sep 12th 2011, 2:10:29

jebi mu...uzmi njegovi land i jebi ko ne to voli. :-)

Pontius Pirate

Member
EE Patron
1907

Sep 12th 2011, 2:32:20

Originally posted by Pain:
Originally posted by Mapleson:
Originally posted by archaic:
quite sure PDM has not killed anyone this set, and did not kill any untagged last set

thanks for failing though.

Gogy, PM me - I have a proposition for you
Thanks for checking the news, archaic.
Sep 09/11 12:01:56 AM BR 001101100011011000110110 (#153) (Paradigm) The Potato King (#832) () 9 C/1 B


Originally posted by Schilling:
I'm still trying to figure out how defending ourselves puts us into the cowards category. Perhaps Mapleson can enlighten us further?

Cheers.
I was suggesting that all of those clans were acting to protect themselves. Back in the day HAN had a retal policy of 1:KILL, but no one ever called them cowards for it. If you hit an alliance and do not have protection beyond yourself, they are within their right to retaliate as they see fit.

You cannot win alliance server as an unaided, untagged country, so playing as an untagged country you must have a different goal. As that goal is in direct conflict with the alliance you chose to attack, killing you off is the smartest thing to do rather then let you keep doing it. Maybe the reaction was a lot for 1 hit, but it's up to individual alliances to draw their own lines of acceptable conduct.


#832 was a suicider. he missiled the top RD country and as very close allies PDM must have seen this and killed him to defend RD. PDM are very noble.

Yeah I'm glad someone is defending your self-farming country that's destined for an illegitimate top 10.

Originally posted by Cerberus:

This guy is destroying the U.S. Dollars position as the preferred exchange for international trade. The Chinese Ruan is going to replace it soon, then the U.S. will not have control of the IMF

Marco Game profile

Member
1259

Sep 12th 2011, 2:55:07

Maple I tend to shy away from hypocrisy, but I'm just wondering what's the point in pointing out the tag vs untagged kills. You left one out that I noticed.

Rival.

I like gogy, he even as an untagged player received a dnh. But I won't defends an untagged on an alliance server. I won't disrespect them, I won't argue for his sake, I won't hit an untagged more so then I would hit any tagged country, but just remember it is an alliance server. If another alliance chose to kill him cause its a tuesday, that is their prerogative.

Samx2

Member
141

Sep 12th 2011, 4:49:57

Disagree, if tuesday, then its not, but if monday, then.. it is their prerogative. i agree.


anyway, for me, Croatia is nice enough, he can suicide to the whole clan, but he didn't. Only do the retal or random 1 or 2 grab, after got farmed.