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fazer Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 23:32:04

Is it possible, given the status of the alliance server these days to achieve top 10 finish tagged / untagged without FA?

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dazedboy Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 23:34:55

Urr...top10 is easy considering how lazy people are. Guys who play seriously for 10 days can get top10 without aid.

fazer Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 23:37:31

Sorry i should of stated top 10 finish.. :)
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NOW3P Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 23:41:31

tagged yes. untagged, doubtful

locket Game profile

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Jul 26th 2011, 23:49:09

You kidding me?

Tagged it is EASY for any good player. In fact most finishes are unaided up there. Check Bakku from last set. He broke 300mill unaided.

Untagged? Not a chance in hell. You need to keep way too much military to ever stock enough.

Pain Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 0:00:12

yea i bet he got 300m without aid/buyout
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Jul 27th 2011, 0:07:16

ley/achan from sanct has 3 top 10s without FA
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locket Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 0:13:02

Pain, your sarcasm is sad, and your lack of faith shows your lack of skill ;)

Heck even I have a top ten without any aid.

dazedboy Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 0:20:07

urr, i did mean top10 finish. Seriously you play 10 good days worth of grabbing and dont donk the destock and it's a top10 easy.

bakku Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 1:00:28

Originally posted by Pain:
yea i bet he got 300m without aid/buyout


i didn't get any aid and wasn't involved in any buyouts

Corfu Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 1:57:13

For the record, I don't think obtaining a top 10 is easy.

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Jul 27th 2011, 2:09:33

t10 is easy as long as you spend some time on it.

back in the day, t100 was the harder than getting a t10 today IMO.

now a days, i can run all explore and put money down that, as long as I'm not suicide on, i can get t30.

Anyone that is willing and able, can get t10, as long as there isn't 10 of those in LaF.
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NOW3P Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 3:45:47

the t100 v t10 thing is a matter of 1000 countries vs 10,000. Maybe it's more realistic to look at it in terms of percentile of the server - t10 equaling top 1 percentile, of course.

btw, it's really fluffty to throw around accusations without some sort of substantiation, or at least an idea of what the situation is/was. It takes away from the conversation, and the credibility of the person doing so.....I like ya Pain, but that's just lame.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 4:13:57

if it is so easy why do only 10 people get it each set?

hahahahah i crack myself up..

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mold Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 4:33:47

lol! True

hanlong Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 7:24:05

it isn't easy, but its been done many times now.

i think most t10-ers these days do it without FA

the difficulty level is probably similar to getting a t50 in the past
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Oceana Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 14:56:58

I agree with DL

archaic Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 15:10:12

Originally posted by dazedboy:
urr, i did mean top10 finish. Seriously you play 10 good days worth of grabbing and dont donk the destock and it's a top10 easy.


Really? So what if 20-30 people do that each set? Do they all get T10? IMO, outside of some well publicized NA shenanigans early on, I have not seen a lot of evidence of rampant NW cheating in EE so far. It's still too small of a fish tank.
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Sir Balin Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 16:20:54

I've gotten it once without aid, took a lot of effort on my part. I was aided into the top 10 one set but LaF CD'd me back to my proper spot which was like 13th or so.

SolidSnake Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 17:21:34

Originally posted by archaic:


Really? So what if 20-30 people do that each set? Do they all get T10? IMO, outside of some well publicized NA shenanigans early on, I have not seen a lot of evidence of rampant NW cheating in EE so far. It's still too small of a fish tank.


If there were 20-30 people attempting to grab well, 15-20 would fail at it, and a few would go to war/screw up and you still end up with some newb in the t10.

Brink Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 17:47:51

Back in the 90's I could get top 25 without aid, top 10 with aid. I played in a mid level alliance.

Top 10 should be pretty easy without aid now if you are in the right alliance.

There just aren't the volume of heavy hitters in the game now.

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Jul 27th 2011, 19:22:00

Brink, it's true, the right alliance would pretty much pact out almost everyone, and avoid wars,

but

the 'right' in alliance server to be in, also does some very shady aiding and stock transfering, along with VERY curious farm targets that never retals them. (but do retal and topfeed other alliances)


There just isn't that many 'great' players now that is willing to put in any effort into land grabbing, because it involves staying up all night, camp, prep'ed, and then countries from the 'right' alliance would hit it 30 seconds before even 2DR happens, and ruins the DR.





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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 23:00:37

can someone explain why Forgotten feels so wronged by EVO? THanks!

Oceana Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 23:14:18

Cause their EVO

SolidSnake Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 23:15:28

Could be, Evo intra farm their own active players while the have stock on hand to stock transfer and claim its not fa??

It may well be something else, just putting out a suggestion.

anoniem Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 23:30:07

solidsnake - remember that one reset when laf were good? and then you became don.

haha.
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Dibs Ludicrous Game profile

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Jul 27th 2011, 23:38:35

Originally posted by fazer:
Is it possible, given the status of the alliance server these days to achieve top 10 finish tagged / untagged without FA?


i don't think you have the intelligence required to do it. you're only a Female Body Inspector, and everybody knows it's a job that requires little intelligence.
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Jul 27th 2011, 23:45:23

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
can someone explain why Forgotten feels so wronged by EVO? THanks!


can someone explain why BobbyATA pinpoints EVO as the alliance without anyone bringing them up?

I've basically quit the game now that my country was killed because restarts got FA packages from two alliances that wasn't involved in the war, and I guess I shouldn't name names, only one paid back anything and the other denies proof of anything anyways.
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Jul 27th 2011, 23:49:57

He mentioned you because you've made the same idiotic and unproven statements in the past. You only left out the tag name this time. Anyway, if you really believe that I expect LaF to start paying reps for all of the suiciders #64 has farmed. How is he always online at the right time? He is clearly guilty by Forgotten Logic (TM).

SolidSnake Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 0:08:51

Originally posted by anoniem:
solidsnake - remember that one reset when laf were good? and then you became don.

haha.


Remember that time when i was don, and evo whine and whined and whined about me dropping them from being an fdp, and i fs'd/tag killed you? good times.

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Jul 28th 2011, 0:43:33

It's pretty funny how that lie gets a little bigger every time you tell it.

locket Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 0:58:33

Just like pinochios penis

Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 1:02:12

Hey I've figured out a plan for next set: FS LaF in a lame war and then brag about it for two years. Should I put it up to a vote?

Do I need to ask permission from SOL first?

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Jul 28th 2011, 1:08:37

[quote poster=Dibs Ludicrous; 11267; 196980]
Originally posted by fazer:
Is it possible, given the status of the alliance server these days to achieve top 10 finish tagged / untagged without FA?


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SolidSnake Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 1:21:29

Originally posted by Slagpit:
Hey I've figured out a plan for next set: FS LaF in a lame war and then brag about it for two years. Should I put it up to a vote?

Do I need to ask permission from SOL first?


Everyone knows im always game, put your money where your mouth is ;)

Sir Balin Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 2:24:45

heh

Forgotten

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Jul 28th 2011, 2:50:44

Originally posted by Slagpit:
He mentioned you because you've made the same idiotic and unproven statements in the past. You only left out the tag name this time. Anyway, if you really believe that I expect LaF to start paying reps for all of the suiciders #64 has farmed. How is he always online at the right time? He is clearly guilty by Forgotten Logic (TM).



suiciders that EVO farmed to the ground first? hmmmmm

just because someone is on at the right time, doesn't mean they are associated. I know for a fact that #64 only got a shot at one of them was because me and another member called him out of a DOTA game, we knew he had turns on hand.


if that's your logic, then obviously EVO runs all these untags that don't bother hitting EVO at all when EVO farms them.



EVO farms country, country suicides on EVO, LaF farms sucider 15 minutes after, country must be LaF multi.

EVO farms country, country top feeds other alliances while EVO farms him within seconds, country must not be EVO multi.
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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 2:55:05

Forgotten at least other LaF trolls have reading comprehension...

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Jul 28th 2011, 3:10:10

I'm no longer a LaF member, nor am I a troll.

I quit the game because of of what has been going on, doesn't matter if i work my ass off, I won't get a t10 because there's 6 guys in LaF that'll finish ahead of me, and ~4 EVO guys that will get FA'ed or stock transfered, as well as shady land grabbing.

Why play anymore
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Tertius Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 4:38:18

Some of you LaF guys are definitely persistent with your lies. Kudos to that. Especially considering the holier than thou attitude when you have FA'd players into the top 10 two of the last three or four sets while having a discussion on AT about how you haven't done that for years, then get caught doing it only to admit that you do FA players into the top 10 because they deserved it more than those other guys they push out who didn't get FA'd.

Classy as always.

(note that some LaF guys are actually stand up, much <3 to those)

Ozzite Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 5:19:27

I actually FAed everyone in evo who does well this set. qz and slag each gave me 1 trillion dollars in my country and then I FAed people
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hanlong Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 6:28:58

can we just have mods close any netgaining related posts especially ones asking about t10, t10 cutoffs, anw/tnw/etc from the get go?

that way i don't have to read Evo and LaF flaming each other. even i'm sick of it by now
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Ozzite Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 6:45:23

Originally posted by hanlong:
can we just have mods close any netgaining related posts especially ones asking about t10, t10 cutoffs, anw/tnw/etc from the get go?

that way i don't have to read Evo and LaF flaming each other. even i'm sick of it by now


Maybe you should tell your fellow LaFers to stop being such asses then ;p
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anoniem Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 15:34:18

hanlong: why don't you keep solidsnake on a leash then? as ever it's one of the fantastic four (ss, locket, lt or forgotten) posting crap first.
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Jul 28th 2011, 15:49:52

Top 10 without FA? Yes, it happens every set.
When countries are FA'd into the T10, it's generally looked down upon by the entire server.

This nonsense about EVO FAing its members to the top 10 is pretty humorous to me.

Each set, EVO recognizes its members who meet the following strict criteria:

1. Achieve over 150m networth
2. They were not FA'd
3. They did not farm dropped members
4. There was no inter/intra-tag land trading.

When a member meets these requirements, they are given a new title "Doctor". If he/she already has this title, they still receive recognition and it is recorded in our networth history logs.

With Evo's University system and dedicated trainers, more and more members are achieving this recognition each set. There has been talks of increasing the bar or creating a new title "Professor" for the most skilled individuals (+200m).

One of the reasons you may be seeing so many Evo in the top 10 this set is due to Evo's main competitor "LaF" being in a war. (I have to give LaF credit) :)




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Jul 28th 2011, 15:53:26

As for an untagged top10?

Maybe if a member of a tag quits after jumping. :)

highrock Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 16:27:42

The reason why there are more Evo in the top 10 this set is that Evo finally learned how to play techer.
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Jul 28th 2011, 16:29:42

PDM put one of those Evo countries into the t10

we expect it to tag over in the last 5 minutes of the round.
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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jul 28th 2011, 16:42:37

not really hrock. Only 2 of our top 10s will be techers I think. Also not sure why you think we can't play techer before.

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Jul 28th 2011, 16:57:38

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Also not sure why you think we can't play techer before.



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