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Jul 6th 2011, 22:50:23

TKO vs NBK
FS: TKO
Good Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
TKOwnd 18434 91 203 14772 73 202
Total 18434 91 203 14772 73 202
Bad Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
NBK 14772 73 202 18434 91 203
Total 14772 73 202 18434 91 203

Networth

NBK:
Average:5.29M
Total: 1,365.80M
Countries: 258

TKOwnd:
Average:5.84M
Total: 1,272.95M
Countries: 218


CC vs SALT
FS: CC

Good Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
CC 12311 59 209 2323 11 211
Total 12311 59 209 2323 11 211
Bad Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
SALT 2323 11 211 12311 59 209
Total 2323 11 211 12311 59 209


Networth:

CC:
Average:4.10M
Total: 651.75M
Countries: 159

SALT:
Average:5.58M
Total: 541.17M
Countries: 97


Will update this thread... whenever I want (NEVA)

Commentary:

NBK is starting to catch up, while TKO keeps trying to keep the lead.

CC blew SALT a new one and reduced their average land to 6K acres, that few acres can't support a lot of networth, so won't look good for SALT, on the other hand CC is mostly Restarts, so they should be having a hard time breaking SALT...

Can SALT recover of that FS? probably not without a mayor moral boost :)

and I am not helping :)
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Jul 7th 2011, 0:32:06

It was quite a brutal FS. Well played boys.

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Jul 7th 2011, 1:45:35

Can SALT recover of that FS? probably not without a mayor moral boost :)
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Jul 7th 2011, 2:08:40

nah easier to run and get help lol...
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

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Jul 7th 2011, 2:10:38

works both ways.
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Jul 7th 2011, 2:15:20

SALT can recover, but it's not gonna be easy.
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Jul 7th 2011, 2:49:34

Tko needs a change in tactics, let's see if we pick the right one to keep us in the fight :)
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Jul 7th 2011, 2:51:09

TKO needs wallers, NBKers need lives. Then TKO has a shot=P
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Jul 7th 2011, 3:11:50

Lol too true
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Popcom Game profile

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Jul 7th 2011, 3:17:07

hey now, u guys have walled several i have tried to kill now :P
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Jul 7th 2011, 3:30:05

Noones texts me =(
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Jul 7th 2011, 9:18:43

NBK --->TKO 18637 hits 85 kills 219 HPK

TKO --->NBK 21559 hits 96 kills 224 HPK

Nice close war - NBK is catching very quickly and still has some scary countries. NBK members also need to get a life and stop walling.

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Jul 7th 2011, 10:15:17

you guys are a just lucky you got gambit in the fs ;) On a positive note for you I never wall :)

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Jul 7th 2011, 10:18:54

yeah if ur gunna hit NBK i would be aiming at gamby first off...

same as IMP u go Atlantis...


some clans just have freaks...

CC you gotta get Donny or fordy..


*offcourse all clans have the good players*
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

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Jul 7th 2011, 11:31:24

I still remember seeing NBK countries with 2-4bil cash onhand and 150+mil bushels and fluffing myself. Glad we got rid of them then, but hell there are still some scary countries in there that we need to get rid of.... pronto.

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Jul 7th 2011, 11:33:54

target selection is key.........

some ppl on this server never gete that....


but then some clans have ppl like me who spy ur whole tag b4 we hit you.....
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

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Jul 7th 2011, 13:02:19

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
CC 15293 73 209 7488 27 277
Total 15293 73 209 7488 27 277
Bad Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
Ares 4028 10 403 1864 10 186
SALT 3460 17 204 13429 63 213
Total 7488 27 277 15293 73 209


hey ares.... u killed 10 and lost 10.... welcome to the party baby ;)
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Bsnake Game profile

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Jul 7th 2011, 13:03:20

403 HPK...... wow thats the worse ive seen on this server....
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Havoc Game profile

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Jul 7th 2011, 13:18:24

the fluff's SALT doing?
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Jul 7th 2011, 13:28:55

tryin to kill bsnake

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Jul 7th 2011, 22:10:11

in TKO you never hit ketchup cause he isnt worth wasting turns on.... not that iwall... but my countries sux0r
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Jul 7th 2011, 22:32:51

each of mine were sitting with ~2bil cash and 150-200mil bushels

they lucked out and got nearly half of mine before i logged on :P
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Jul 7th 2011, 22:57:26

gambit 1642 you? fluff 13 seconds to buy up man lol.
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Jul 8th 2011, 0:07:05

yeah it is, lol... thats because i was setting up to use it in a kill run :P

you guys almost killed it yesterday, but you took 3 mins and someone texted me in time :P
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Jul 8th 2011, 0:43:10

damn n00b kill runs lol
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Jul 8th 2011, 1:04:50

Lucked out by getting gambit in the FS...

Id go with we saw he had 170m bushels stocked on his countries, so took them out first :)


Interesting war though! Currently 110 kills to tko and 100 kills to NBK.
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Jul 8th 2011, 1:21:24

CC

17768 hits
82 kills
217 HPK


Vs

Ares

4752 hits
10 kills
475 HPK <---------- ROFL

Salt

SALT

3488 hits
17 kills
205 HPK
<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

bastion63 Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 1:44:32

13 seconds was bs.......thats all im sayin for now........

synoder Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 1:53:11

well obviously gambit is the k4fbot.2

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Jul 8th 2011, 12:54:55

Gambit average walling is better then mine, I was extremely vulnerable on weekends, Gambit has no weakness :P
Though when we were sleeping in middle of the night I could log on and start walling within 15 second of first hit from a dead sleep, Gambit would take at least 25, maybe even 30 seconds, that newb.
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Havoc Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 13:17:16

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
CC 19461 88 221 10656 31 344
FoCuS 3778 15 252 124 1 124
Total 23239 103 226 10780 32 337

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
Ares 6490 13 499 6921 29 239
SALT 4290 19 226 16318 74 221
Total 10780 32 337 23239 103 226


Nice FS so far FoCuS..


tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
TKOwnd 27282 121 225 24768 112 221
Total 27282 121 225 24768 112 221

tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
NBK 24768 112 221 27282 121 225
Total 24768 112 221 27282 121 225

Still close.. Good HPK's for both.
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Bsnake Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 13:30:03

"Still close.. Good HPK's for both."


out the crack pipe down havoc.....


both who??????????

Ares 499HPK...


<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

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Jul 8th 2011, 13:31:51

might as well be AB'ing with that HPK ratio, atleast you would be doing SOMETHING to help the war effort

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Jul 8th 2011, 13:32:13

Originally posted by Bsnake:
"Still close.. Good HPK's for both."


out the crack pipe down havoc.....


both who??????????

Ares 499HPK...





Put down the beer bsnake...He was probably referring to TKO/NBK, because that is where he wrote that :-P
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Havoc Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 14:51:13

Yeah I thought that seemed fairly obvious for most semi-intelligent people.:p
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Jul 8th 2011, 14:52:07

Yeah TKO is quality ;)
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Jul 8th 2011, 15:09:19

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Jul 8th 2011, 16:28:40

Confirmed.
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Jul 8th 2011, 17:26:36

NBK vs TKO is the first good war since NBK vs Pan/Focus. I much prefer a good war over fluffy ones.

From what I can remember of last set.

CC FS Focus/IMP (bad war) Also, fun little bit of info. SALT almost FSed CC about a week into that war. Who knows who would have won after that, but Focus/IMP seemed to not really be fighting. So, we probably would have lost. But would have been a much better war/closer war.

Ares FS SALT (bad war) This war could have been better, however Ares basically stopped fighting after the FS. We also expected Natural Numbers to join in, which would have made it a much better fight.

This set

NBK FS CC (bad war) This war would have been much better had it been CC FSing NBK (i know CC you don't have to say it again.) Now this war would have been a good war had CC called in Focus. (sort of like SALT calling in Ares, that made a good war) However lets say NBK calls in IMP. Now it would be a bad war. (kind of like CC calling in Focus)

Which bring us to the war SALT is currently in.

CC FS SALT (bad)
CC V SALT/Ares (good!)
CC/Focus V SALT/Ares(bad)
Now it is what it is. However I personally like fighting in a good war rather then a bad one. And same goes with watching a war. And I am more interested in a good war, then who wins what in a bad war.

I might as well finish the other wars too.

IMP FS TKO (bad)
Now this war was almost good. However, I thought the plan was for IMP/SALT FS TKO/SemperFi which would have been a much better war. However, for some reason we didn't get included in FS plans. I wasn't really mad, I just assumed some sort of miscommunication. But when it came to IMP calling us in after the fact. We chose to fight SemperFi, who we found out was going to hit if anyone else jumped in TKO/IMP war, so we wanted to get a jump in on SemperFi. We also assumed IMP would call in someone else to make it a better war.

SALT FS SemperFi (bad)
Which is too bad, cause it could have been a good war. First, we had 2-3 inactive strings, so we weren't as big as we looked. Plus, many of our 'active' players had missed turns due to RL and etc, so over all our countries were much weaker. If Semper had organized a bit, and used there stock, I actually think we would have lost.

TKO FS NBK (good!)
Now this is a fun war to track. It is so close.

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Jul 8th 2011, 18:30:41

Shopkeeper: [Homer has agreed to purchase a Krusty doll for Bart's birthday] Take this object, but beware it carries a terrible curse!
Homer: Ooh, that's bad.
Shopkeeper: But it comes with a free frogurt!
Homer: That's good.
Shopkeeper: The frogurt is also cursed.
Homer: That's bad.
Shopkeeper: But you get your choice of toppings.
Homer: That's good!
Shopkeeper: The toppings contain potassium benzoate.
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Havoc Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 18:30:59

sorry your post just reminded me of that:)
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bastion63 Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 20:27:50

[quote poster=Kill4Free; 10772; 188604]Gambit average walling is better then mine, I was extremely vulnerable on weekends, Gambit has no weakness :P
Though when we were sleeping in middle of the night I could log on and start walling within 15 second of first hit from a dead sleep, Gambit would take at least 25, maybe even 30 seconds, that newb. [/quot

nbk using bots, dont care what you say.........

rebelnbk Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 20:29:14

True!

GunGrave Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 20:40:34

Originally posted by bastion63:
Originally posted by Kill4Free:
Gambit average walling is better then mine, I was extremely vulnerable on weekends, Gambit has no weakness :P
Though when we were sleeping in middle of the night I could log on and start walling within 15 second of first hit from a dead sleep, Gambit would take at least 25, maybe even 30 seconds, that newb.


nbk using bots, dont care what you say.........


i lol'd.
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Jul 8th 2011, 20:43:50

Originally posted by GunGrave:


i lol'd.


Ditto.

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Jul 8th 2011, 22:56:39

Update
TKO vs NBK
FS: TKO
Good Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
NBK 26164 117 224 28558 126 227
Total 26164 117 224 28558 126 227
Bad Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
TKOwnd 28558 126 227 26164 117 224
Total 28558 126 227 26164 117 224

Networth:

NBK
Average:4.62M
Total: 1,223.04M
Countries: 265 (+7 tagged)

TKOwned
Average:5.19M
Total: 1,058.20M
Countries: 204 (-14 tagged)


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CC + FoCuS vs SALT + Ares
FS:
CC on SALT
Ares on CC o_O
FoCuS on Ares


Good Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
CC 20432 92 222 10790 31 348
FoCuS 4504 18 250 124 1 124
Total 24936 110 227 10914 32 341
Bad Guys
tag hits kills hpk defends deaths hpd
Ares 6624 13 510 7206 30 240
SALT 4290 19 226 17730 80 222
Total 10914 32 341 24936 110 227


Networth:
FoCuS:
Average: 9.13M
Total: 1,415.65M
Countries: 155

CC:
Average:3.68M
Total: 614.47M
Countries: 167 (+8 Tagged)

Total Countries: 322
Average: 6M Networth

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Ares:
Average:4.46M
Total: 482.16M
Countries: 108

SALT:
Average:4.39M
Total: 426.27M
Countries: 97 (steady number)

Total countries: 205
Average Networth: 4M

Commentary

TKO vs NBK:
Nice war right there, TKO hit NBK with full turns, while NBK had a GOOD amount of them on hand and could put a powerful CS right away.

Is death even, but numbers don't lie, NBK is getting the upper hand, they are starting to lose breaking power, but they have managed to almost close the initial networth gap, so it isn't a problem; is a matter of time before NBK starts to beat TKO, but as one of the topdog clans of FFA, we can't expect less, the mid set implosion proved to be good for both NBK and the server as their numbers are more healty and they are still in good shape, maybe not at 100%, but still strong.

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CC vs SALT

War was more or less Even at the start, but SALT suffers from activity issues and made clear CC would roll stomp them in a matter of days, Ares jumping to the fray added more targets, but their help is minimal (they need to use 6 of their 16 countries at the same time to get some sort of effect "learn to rush with 10 countries per member OMG")

CC vs SALT/Ares was a uphill battle for CC, but given by the performance of both Ares and SALT they would had won in the end, or at the very least it would have been death close.

With FoCuS jumping on the fray:
CC/FoCuS vs Ares/SALT
Is death clear SALT and Ares don't stand a chance, Ares should had considered their situation before they went to war, because even if your FDP asks for help, you need a minimal set of benchmarks to get and do in order to be useful to your allies, and in the mean time you FA them to make them hold the line while you get ready.

This war will either cause the rebirth of 2 alliances or cause their destruction.

Both SALT and Ares need to ask NBK and borrow some of their leaders time to act as advisor's to improve themselves (alliances used to do this WAY back in the day, paying reps to the allies that asked them, and yes douche "allies" did that...)



Edited By: Chaoswind on Jul 8th 2011, 22:59:24
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Pain Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 23:02:39

i doubt this is going to permanently damage salt or ares. its just a war. focus was in the same basic position last set. not every war can be close, not every war can be won.
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Chaoswind Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 23:07:59

I am just saying they need to get their act together, this war has proven that both clans have weaknesses, and they need to get rid of those, or at the very least learn to pull ahead of them...

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Pain Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 23:24:05

its just inactiveness. not every clan is full of members who get online every day and actively war. if every clan was like NBK or CC things would be alot more interesting.
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Popcom Game profile

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Jul 8th 2011, 23:26:09

all clans have weaknesses. except mine clearly
1A - BLOWS
FFA- NBK4Life

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